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post Mar 7 2013, 04:40
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@HNTI
Just use weaken or silence for those schoolgirl (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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It's good armor , high ADB & good PAB (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Mar 7 2013, 05:19
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QUOTE(ahenayau @ Mar 7 2013, 04:40) *

@HNTI
Just use weaken or silence for those schoolgirl (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

@night
It's good armor , high ADB & good PAB (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)



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post Mar 7 2013, 05:22
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QUOTE(Nightwishman @ Mar 7 2013, 10:19) *

It it worth Item Worlding?


Yea, if you want to. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Mar 7 2013, 05:27
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QUOTE(Nightwishman @ Mar 7 2013, 11:19) *

It it worth Item Worlding?

it's up to you (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

but I think you just wait till get better armor ( exq above ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

IW armor just add elemental resistance & HP bonus ( if you lucky get that potency ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post Mar 7 2013, 05:37
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I had to turn my difficulty down to Normal recently, I'm guessing because I'm now running into the better-optimized player monsters. I'd like some advice on changes I could make to build and/or tactics to be able to bump my difficulty up. Here's my stat screen:

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I like having the Attribute spread simple but I'm open to changing the ratio of the ones I care about vs ones I don't (Agility got dropped because with Proficiency Burden reduction gone my Evade is toast so all it does for me is up crit chance). My equipment is an Axe of Slaughter, a Dagger of Balance, and Plate of Protection/some Warding; I'm obviously looking to save up for Mithral and I'm also thinking of switching to an of Balance main-hand for the Anti-Evade.
Ability-wise I have all Health and Mana Tanks, a few Spirit Tank, Overcharge Boosts and XP Tanks, the obvious stuff like Item Slots and X-Attack, Protection, Haste, Regen II, Cure II, Spark and Silence.
For tactics, I focus on hitting the enemies with the most MP, or the highest-level ones if none have enough to cast a skill. Overcharge is mainly used for Spirit Stance (with the exception of blinding bosses while I take out the trash). Mana is pretty much for healing with Channeling used on Regen or Haste, then Protection (if I already have those). I grabbed Spark of Life because the wiki recommended it but I don't really use it (against regular battles I haven't run into more than 2 bosses at once where I'd need it, against FSM I make sure to keep him always Blinded and Silenced so he can't one-shot me).

edit: Forgot to add that I have a few Exquisite items that would be worth IWing, but I've only cleared one once (on Easy) and I don't often have enough time at once for it.

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post Mar 7 2013, 05:54
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QUOTE(qazzy5 @ Mar 7 2013, 11:37) *

I had to turn my difficulty down to Normal recently, I'm guessing because I'm now running into the better-optimized player monsters. I'd like some advice on changes I could make to build and/or tactics to be able to bump my difficulty up. Here's my stat screen:

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I like having the Attribute spread simple but I'm open to changing the ratio of the ones I care about vs ones I don't (Agility got dropped because with Proficiency Burden reduction gone my Evade is toast so all it does for me is up crit chance). My equipment is an Axe of Slaughter, a Dagger of Balance, and Plate of Protection/some Warding; I'm obviously looking to save up for Mithral and I'm also thinking of switching to an of Balance main-hand for the Anti-Evade.
Ability-wise I have all Health and Mana Tanks, a few Spirit Tank, Overcharge Boosts and XP Tanks, the obvious stuff like Item Slots and X-Attack, Protection, Haste, Regen II, Cure II, Spark and Silence.
For tactics, I focus on hitting the enemies with the most MP, or the highest-level ones if none have enough to cast a skill. Overcharge is mainly used for Spirit Stance (with the exception of blinding bosses while I take out the trash). Mana is pretty much for healing with Channeling used on Regen or Haste, then Protection (if I already have those). I grabbed Spark of Life because the wiki recommended it but I don't really use it (against regular battles I haven't run into more than 2 bosses at once where I'd need it, against FSM I make sure to keep him always Blinded and Silenced so he can't one-shot me).

edit: Forgot to add that I have a few Exquisite items that would be worth IWing, but I've only cleared one once (on Easy) and I don't often have enough time at once for it.

Heavy DW user same like me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
It is coz tenboro nerf HEAVY alot in this new patch (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

you don't need high INT like that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Reduce it than put to WIS (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
AGI can be reduced since it's don't increase your action speed anymore in this new patch (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
( put that point to DEX & STR ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


IW your weapon only , you don't need to IW armor yet (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
( wait till LvL 200 )
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post Mar 7 2013, 08:50
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As DW Light here is my stat spread:
STR: 315 - 69.2M
DEX: 309 - 55M
AGI: 295 - 32.2M
END: 209 - 55M
INT: 190 - 0.7M
WIS: 255 - 7.3M
I do my stats as STR - 0, DEX - 5, END - 5, AGI - 20
and WIS cost = 10% STR cost, INT cost = 10% WIS
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post Mar 7 2013, 09:48
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I keep everything even. The PABs on the equipment is what makes the difference anyways. Besides, it's best this way if you like to play different styles/builds.
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post Mar 7 2013, 10:18
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I don't play hv for sometime.
I have many question and first is...

where is my dear "Elia ... 501st ".(name too long I can't remember)
She used to rape me a lot . (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Mar 7 2013, 11:04
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QUOTE(Manian @ Mar 7 2013, 09:18) *
I don't play hv for sometime.
I have many question and first is...

where is my dear "Elia ... 501st ".(name too long I can't remember)
She used to rape me a lot . (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
The highest pl monster you can meet is calculated by
your effective level=level+100 (on IWBTH)
Max Monster PL=((Player's effective level) ^ 1.27) - 247
which in your case is
((227+100)^1.27)-247=1314
Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st PL is now 1455
Level you meet her at on IWBTH (1455+247)^(1/1.27)-100=250

Edit: Rounding error may have occurred.

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post Mar 7 2013, 11:08
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oh ,thx.
so 10b update limit cap .
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post Mar 7 2013, 11:54
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QUOTE(TheGreyPanther @ Mar 7 2013, 01:04) *

The highest pl monster you can meet is calculated by
your effective level=level+100 (on IWBTH)
Max Monster PL=((Player's effective level) ^ 1.27) - 247
which in your case is
((227+100)^1.27)-247=1314
Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st PL is now 1455
Level you meet her at on IWBTH (1455+247)^(1/1.27)-100=250

Edit: Rounding error may have occurred.


It's 248 from experience.
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post Mar 7 2013, 12:29
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QUOTE(Manian @ Mar 7 2013, 17:08) *

oh ,thx.
so 10b update limit cap .

don't worry , you will get raped by HTTP lvl 1000 army mobs (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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post Mar 7 2013, 12:52
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Just use weaken or silence for those schoolgirl biggrin.gif


It sounded like a piece of advice for potential loli rapist xP. I didn't know weaken & silence are now possible to combine. I probably won't try to beat End of days as stamina & credits wise it's not worth it as I have the other arenas to beat and it will take me some time to gather enough AP to max spirit tank and later silence. I don't know how info on wiki is reliable, but is there any combination of debuffing spells dispelling each other ?

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QFT (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif). If you encounter a monster which you can't rape with 1 or 2 spells, there's a high chance it belongs to HTTP.

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post Mar 7 2013, 12:56
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another surprise thing, someone fix the wiki.
501st link does go to retard explantation page anymore.
(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
that right, she's not retard. she just sadistic .

or she is yandere??

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post Mar 7 2013, 13:09
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QUOTE(HNTI @ Mar 7 2013, 18:52) *

It sounded like a piece of advice for potential loli rapist xP. I didn't know weaken & silence are now possible to combine. I probably won't try to beat End of days as stamina & credits wise it's not worth it as I have the other arenas to beat and it will take me some time to gather enough AP to max spirit tank and later silence. I don't know how info on wiki is reliable, but is there any combination of debuffing spells dispelling each other ?
QFT (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif). If you encounter a monster which you can't rape with 1 or 2 spells, there's a high chance it belongs to HTTP.


220 arena above is time eater , I'm never clear it anymore coz it consume alot of time since those schoolgirl HP*2 buff : (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

I usually just use silence for those girl , than use my frenzied blow but it still take around 40 minute to 1 hour finishing it ( BT difficulty ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)
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post Mar 7 2013, 13:19
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@ahenayau: Emmmm I still talk about clearing it at normal difficulty as a dark mage (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif).

The trio and the tree has the same number of rounds, but clearing it is peace of cake.

I didn't try to clear arenas with more than 80 rounds on difficulty higher than normal. Probably I might be able to do so up to Heroic, but resistances became pain in the butt as the difficulty increase.
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post Mar 7 2013, 14:00
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QUOTE(Manian @ Mar 7 2013, 02:56) *

another surprise thing, someone fix the wiki.
501st link does go to retard explantation page anymore.
(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
that right, she's not retard. she just sadistic .

or she is yandere??


I noticed this too. That prank had me laughing a good deal; it's a shame someone fixed it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Mar 7 2013, 14:11
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Is FSM's Noodley Appendages the only "real" trophy? 'Coz I just got a "lousy Black T-Shirt" from RL. Is this worth offering to Snowflake's shrine or just dump at the bazaar?
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post Mar 7 2013, 14:49
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Is this worth offering to Snowflake's shrine

NO.
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