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Mar 7 2013, 05:37
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qazzy5
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I had to turn my difficulty down to Normal recently, I'm guessing because I'm now running into the better-optimized player monsters. I'd like some advice on changes I could make to build and/or tactics to be able to bump my difficulty up. Here's my stat screen: I like having the Attribute spread simple but I'm open to changing the ratio of the ones I care about vs ones I don't (Agility got dropped because with Proficiency Burden reduction gone my Evade is toast so all it does for me is up crit chance). My equipment is an Axe of Slaughter, a Dagger of Balance, and Plate of Protection/some Warding; I'm obviously looking to save up for Mithral and I'm also thinking of switching to an of Balance main-hand for the Anti-Evade. Ability-wise I have all Health and Mana Tanks, a few Spirit Tank, Overcharge Boosts and XP Tanks, the obvious stuff like Item Slots and X-Attack, Protection, Haste, Regen II, Cure II, Spark and Silence. For tactics, I focus on hitting the enemies with the most MP, or the highest-level ones if none have enough to cast a skill. Overcharge is mainly used for Spirit Stance (with the exception of blinding bosses while I take out the trash). Mana is pretty much for healing with Channeling used on Regen or Haste, then Protection (if I already have those). I grabbed Spark of Life because the wiki recommended it but I don't really use it (against regular battles I haven't run into more than 2 bosses at once where I'd need it, against FSM I make sure to keep him always Blinded and Silenced so he can't one-shot me). edit: Forgot to add that I have a few Exquisite items that would be worth IWing, but I've only cleared one once (on Easy) and I don't often have enough time at once for it. This post has been edited by qazzy5: Mar 7 2013, 05:39
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Mar 7 2013, 05:54
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nobody_xxx
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 13,753
Joined: 7-December 10

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QUOTE(qazzy5 @ Mar 7 2013, 11:37)  I had to turn my difficulty down to Normal recently, I'm guessing because I'm now running into the better-optimized player monsters. I'd like some advice on changes I could make to build and/or tactics to be able to bump my difficulty up. Here's my stat screen: I like having the Attribute spread simple but I'm open to changing the ratio of the ones I care about vs ones I don't (Agility got dropped because with Proficiency Burden reduction gone my Evade is toast so all it does for me is up crit chance). My equipment is an Axe of Slaughter, a Dagger of Balance, and Plate of Protection/some Warding; I'm obviously looking to save up for Mithral and I'm also thinking of switching to an of Balance main-hand for the Anti-Evade. Ability-wise I have all Health and Mana Tanks, a few Spirit Tank, Overcharge Boosts and XP Tanks, the obvious stuff like Item Slots and X-Attack, Protection, Haste, Regen II, Cure II, Spark and Silence. For tactics, I focus on hitting the enemies with the most MP, or the highest-level ones if none have enough to cast a skill. Overcharge is mainly used for Spirit Stance (with the exception of blinding bosses while I take out the trash). Mana is pretty much for healing with Channeling used on Regen or Haste, then Protection (if I already have those). I grabbed Spark of Life because the wiki recommended it but I don't really use it (against regular battles I haven't run into more than 2 bosses at once where I'd need it, against FSM I make sure to keep him always Blinded and Silenced so he can't one-shot me). edit: Forgot to add that I have a few Exquisite items that would be worth IWing, but I've only cleared one once (on Easy) and I don't often have enough time at once for it. Heavy DW user same like me (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) It is coz tenboro nerf HEAVY alot in this new patch (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) you don't need high INT like that (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Reduce it than put to WIS (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) AGI can be reduced since it's don't increase your action speed anymore in this new patch (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) ( put that point to DEX & STR ) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) IW your weapon only , you don't need to IW armor yet (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ( wait till LvL 200 )
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Mar 7 2013, 08:50
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Arxdewn
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As DW Light here is my stat spread: STR: 315 - 69.2M DEX: 309 - 55M AGI: 295 - 32.2M END: 209 - 55M INT: 190 - 0.7M WIS: 255 - 7.3M I do my stats as STR - 0, DEX - 5, END - 5, AGI - 20 and WIS cost = 10% STR cost, INT cost = 10% WIS
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Mar 7 2013, 09:48
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T_Starrk
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I keep everything even. The PABs on the equipment is what makes the difference anyways. Besides, it's best this way if you like to play different styles/builds.
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Mar 7 2013, 10:18
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Manian
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I don't play hv for sometime. I have many question and first is... where is my dear "Elia ... 501st ".(name too long I can't remember) She used to rape me a lot . (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Mar 7 2013, 11:04
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TheGreyPanther
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QUOTE(Manian @ Mar 7 2013, 09:18)  I don't play hv for sometime. I have many question and first is... where is my dear "Elia ... 501st ".(name too long I can't remember) She used to rape me a lot . (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) The highest pl monster you can meet is calculated by your effective level=level+100 (on IWBTH) Max Monster PL=((Player's effective level) ^ 1.27) - 247 which in your case is ((227+100)^1.27)-247=1314 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st PL is now 1455 Level you meet her at on IWBTH (1455+247)^(1/1.27)-100=250 Edit: Rounding error may have occurred. This post has been edited by TheGreyPanther: Mar 7 2013, 11:07
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Mar 7 2013, 11:08
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Manian
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oh ,thx. so 10b update limit cap .
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Mar 7 2013, 11:54
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Arxdewn
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QUOTE(TheGreyPanther @ Mar 7 2013, 01:04)  The highest pl monster you can meet is calculated by your effective level=level+100 (on IWBTH) Max Monster PL=((Player's effective level) ^ 1.27) - 247 which in your case is ((227+100)^1.27)-247=1314 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st PL is now 1455 Level you meet her at on IWBTH (1455+247)^(1/1.27)-100=250
Edit: Rounding error may have occurred.
It's 248 from experience.
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Mar 7 2013, 12:29
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nobody_xxx
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QUOTE(Manian @ Mar 7 2013, 17:08)  oh ,thx. so 10b update limit cap .
don't worry , you will get raped by HTTP lvl 1000 army mobs (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) This post has been edited by ahenayau: Mar 7 2013, 12:30
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Mar 7 2013, 12:52
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HNTI
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QUOTE @HNTI Just use weaken or silence for those schoolgirl biggrin.gif It sounded like a piece of advice for potential loli rapist xP. I didn't know weaken & silence are now possible to combine. I probably won't try to beat End of days as stamina & credits wise it's not worth it as I have the other arenas to beat and it will take me some time to gather enough AP to max spirit tank and later silence. I don't know how info on wiki is reliable, but is there any combination of debuffing spells dispelling each other ? QUOTE don't worry , you will get raped by HTTP lvl 1000 army mobs tongue.gif QFT (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif). If you encounter a monster which you can't rape with 1 or 2 spells, there's a high chance it belongs to HTTP. This post has been edited by HNTI: Mar 7 2013, 12:57
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Mar 7 2013, 12:56
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Manian
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another surprise thing, someone fix the wiki. 501st link does go to retard explantation page anymore. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) that right, she's not retard. she just sadistic . or she is yandere?? This post has been edited by Manian: Mar 7 2013, 12:58
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Mar 7 2013, 13:09
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nobody_xxx
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(HNTI @ Mar 7 2013, 18:52)  It sounded like a piece of advice for potential loli rapist xP. I didn't know weaken & silence are now possible to combine. I probably won't try to beat End of days as stamina & credits wise it's not worth it as I have the other arenas to beat and it will take me some time to gather enough AP to max spirit tank and later silence. I don't know how info on wiki is reliable, but is there any combination of debuffing spells dispelling each other ? QFT (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif). If you encounter a monster which you can't rape with 1 or 2 spells, there's a high chance it belongs to HTTP. 220 arena above is time eater , I'm never clear it anymore coz it consume alot of time since those schoolgirl HP*2 buff : (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) I usually just use silence for those girl , than use my frenzied blow but it still take around 40 minute to 1 hour finishing it ( BT difficulty ) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)
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Mar 7 2013, 13:19
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HNTI
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@ahenayau: Emmmm I still talk about clearing it at normal difficulty as a dark mage (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif). The trio and the tree has the same number of rounds, but clearing it is peace of cake. I didn't try to clear arenas with more than 80 rounds on difficulty higher than normal. Probably I might be able to do so up to Heroic, but resistances became pain in the butt as the difficulty increase.
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Mar 7 2013, 14:00
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n125
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QUOTE(Manian @ Mar 7 2013, 02:56)  another surprise thing, someone fix the wiki. 501st link does go to retard explantation page anymore. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) that right, she's not retard. she just sadistic . or she is yandere?? I noticed this too. That prank had me laughing a good deal; it's a shame someone fixed it. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Mar 7 2013, 14:11
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elda88
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Joined: 30-June 09

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Is FSM's Noodley Appendages the only "real" trophy? 'Coz I just got a "lousy Black T-Shirt" from RL. Is this worth offering to Snowflake's shrine or just dump at the bazaar?
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Mar 7 2013, 14:49
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Laboq
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QUOTE(hujan86 @ Mar 7 2013, 14:11)  Is this worth offering to Snowflake's shrine NO.
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