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post Feb 24 2013, 15:00
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More accurately, Plate was nerfed.
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post Feb 24 2013, 15:13
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QUOTE(unknownxz. @ Feb 24 2013, 13:44) *

I'm using this. [pastie.org] http://pastie.org/5868736

When it pop-ups press "w" to see base stats, "q" and "e" for comparison and "f" to show the shop url link.


Thanks, but I've got no idea how to make this work in the first place. I'm such a noob. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Feb 24 2013, 15:44
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Did cure changed? I found that cure heal alot more than few days ago.
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post Feb 24 2013, 15:46
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Well, with the new new haste things are less terrible.
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post Feb 24 2013, 15:52
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QUOTE(Falbala456 @ Feb 25 2013, 00:00) *

More accurately, Plate was nerfed.


And anything non-ethereal
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post Feb 24 2013, 15:59
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For 2H sure. For 1H, depends.
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post Feb 24 2013, 16:03
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QUOTE(aloc1234 @ Feb 24 2013, 21:46) *

Well, with the new new haste things are less terrible.

The current patch make melee kill and be killed much faster. I did some test in hell grindfest with power armor/plate/dark phase. I find that dark mage is the most long lasting style (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) , probably because it can kill some mob by the first shot at low difficult setting.
I think i will switch to mage and train my holy prof. in this patch.
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For 2H sure. For 1H, depends.

I'm very sure 1H/DW need lower burden than 2H because they need to stun the enemy to survive. And burden reduce the crit rate thus the stun chance. In addition, 2H only carry one weapon, while 1H/DW carry two.

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post Feb 24 2013, 16:13
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QUOTE(Colman @ Feb 25 2013, 01:03) *

The current patch make melee kill and be killed much faster. I did some test in hell grindfest with power armor/plate/dark phase. I find that dark mage is the most long lasting style (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) , probably because it can kill some mob by the first shot at low difficult setting.
I think i will switch to mage and train my holy prof. in this patch.



What weapons are you using with heavy armors? Estoc seems to be nerfed quite hard, and is probably only useful for boss. Now mace is safer, and scythe clears faster (even in IWBTH). That is assuming that they're all ethereal.
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post Feb 24 2013, 16:19
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Feb 24 2013, 22:13) *

What weapons are you using with heavy armors? Estoc seems to be nerfed quite hard, and is probably only useful for boss. Now mace is safer, and scythe clears faster (even in IWBTH). That is assuming that they're all ethereal.

I am still using estoc. And the best mace I have is this. And it kill much slower than my current estoc. The sad think is that I do not have any fast method to level the mace to level 10. So, before I got a better mace, I don't think melee is a suitable choice for me.

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post Feb 24 2013, 16:30
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Feb 24 2013, 16:13) *

What weapons are you using with heavy armors? Estoc seems to be nerfed quite hard, and is probably only useful for boss. Now mace is safer, and scythe clears faster (even in IWBTH). That is assuming that they're all ethereal.

Estoc is still way faster if compared to mace. Yes, with maces you survive longer, but still, Estoc is faster.
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post Feb 24 2013, 16:32
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QUOTE(Colman @ Feb 25 2013, 01:19) *

I am still using estoc. And the best mace I have is this. And it kill much slower than my current estoc. The sad think is that I do not have any fast method to level the mace to level 10. So, before I got a better mace, I don't think melee is a suitable choice for me.


Going back to maging, I suppose the new speed system now favor cure spamming for healing instead of regen. And since mage cures much more effectively, it should last longer

Still, I suppose 2H shade would be viable? It has low mana use, low interference, and shitload of evade and resist.
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post Feb 24 2013, 16:42
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I'm very sure 1H/DW need lower burden than 2H because they need to stun the enemy to survive. And burden reduce the crit rate thus the stun chance. In addition, 2H only carry one weapon, while 1H/DW carry two.


Yeah but DW have a high parry, or should have. And nothing said you were forced to stick with a Mace+Rapier.

And if people have troubles, there's lower levels under Nintendo.

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post Feb 24 2013, 16:47
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So as a lower level mage, with about 86 agility, should I just start getting rid of it and put the exp somewhere else? The only reason I would have it at this point would be the small evade bonus, I guess.
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post Feb 24 2013, 17:15
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Evade is still needed for you lot.
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post Feb 24 2013, 17:25
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QUOTE(Falbala456 @ Feb 24 2013, 22:42) *

Yeah but DW have a high parry, or should have. And nothing said you were forced to stick with a Mace Rapier.

And if people have troubles, there's lower levels under Nintendo.

er , since when mace change to 1H (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
parry is the lifesaver for Heavy DW like me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
40% parry (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

i still hope those schoolgirls HP is reduce in next patch , alot of time consume for clearing this 220 above arenas (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Feb 24 2013, 17:35
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er , since when mace change to 1H (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
parry is the lifesaver for Heavy DW like me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
40% parry (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

i still hope those schoolgirls HP is reduce in next patch , alot of time consume for clearing this 220 above arenas (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

You have to make Windows 8 suck much, much less for TenB to revert the 2x HP buff given to the big guns.
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post Feb 24 2013, 17:42
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QUOTE(xmagus @ Feb 24 2013, 23:35) *

You have to make Windows 8 suck much, much less for TenB to revert the 2x HP buff given to the big guns.

I thought teboro have reduced their hp by abit.
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post Feb 24 2013, 17:45
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QUOTE(xmagus @ Feb 24 2013, 23:35) *

You have to make Windows 8 suck much, much less for TenB to revert the 2x HP buff given to the big guns.

i still remember when FSM get HP boost in the last patch , there alot of complain about it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


QUOTE(Colman @ Feb 24 2013, 23:42) *

I thought teboro have reduced their hp by abit.

really , it a good news (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


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post Feb 24 2013, 17:53
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QUOTE(Colman @ Feb 24 2013, 22:42) *

I thought teboro have reduced their hp by abit.


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post Feb 24 2013, 21:30
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I find that dark mage is the most long lasting style blink.gif , probably because it can kill some mob by the first shot at low difficult setting.


Dark mage lowers monsters' DMG (physical for sure, but no idea if magical too), so even if one didn't manage to kill 'em all after the first cast, you still have higher chance to not proc SS or SoL than other mage styles.

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i still remember when FSM get HP boost in the last patch , there alot of complain about it laugh.gif


I haven't seen much difference in killing FSM with my holy set.

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