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post Feb 20 2013, 07:08
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QUOTE(PK678353 @ Feb 19 2013, 19:56) *

Use Mace, apply Holy Infusion, lay smackdown (or get lolraped by a giant pile of tentacley HP).


Yes, it has to be the mace anyway cause the katana isn't hollowforged. Slashing, crushing, piercing damage are worthless against FSM, it's like hitting a concrete wall. I once tried fighting FSM with my unleveled Exquisite Hallowed Club of Slaughter and it almost doubled the amount of turns it took to beat him.
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post Feb 20 2013, 07:18
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QUOTE(PK678353 @ Feb 20 2013, 05:56) *

Use Mace, apply Holy Infusion, lay smackdown (or get lolraped by a giant pile of tentacley HP).

Don't forget to keep him silenced and weakened, SoL on and you'll be stomping Its noodly face. If you have high enough deprecative prof, slowing him is good too, but I know I have some trouble landing my debuffs when there's a lot.
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post Feb 20 2013, 07:30
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QUOTE(ChosenUno @ Feb 20 2013, 14:36) *

DW is worse than 2 in almost everyway anyway.

Maybe if 2H's parry is removed (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


2H has parry ? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

edit:Excuse me if I miss the sarcasm

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post Feb 20 2013, 07:35
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Feb 20 2013, 06:30) *

2H has parry ? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

edit:Excuse me if I miss the sarcasm

No sarcasm here, 2H prof gives parry.
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post Feb 20 2013, 07:38
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QUOTE(pervdiz @ Feb 20 2013, 01:18) *

Don't forget to keep him silenced and weakened, SoL on and you'll be stomping Its noodly face. If you have high enough deprecative prof, slowing him is good too, but I know I have some trouble landing my debuffs when there's a lot.


Yeah, kind of implied with gods. Actually, after 190 you frequently drop a number of the debuffs because of Spirit Shield. I just Weaken/Imperil/Slow and Haste/SV/Regen II/SS/AF/Frost Infusion/Flame Spikes (for the proc to boost Cold damage).
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post Feb 20 2013, 08:01
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QUOTE(PK678353 @ Feb 20 2013, 06:38) *

Yeah, kind of implied with gods. Actually, after 190 you frequently drop a number of the debuffs because of Spirit Shield. I just Weaken/Imperil/Slow and Haste/SV/Regen II/SS/AF/Frost Infusion/Flame Spikes (for the proc to boost Cold damage).

Well anyway curse weaving will be gone after next update so it won't be an issue for much longer.

That put aside, I suppose you have less use for SP as a mage, but it seems to me relying on SS drains SP I'd like to use for spirit stance. I still don't have the last DW skill mind you, so I may have less use of SP once I can use my OC this way, but spirit stance still looks pretty useful.

I don't really know since I don't have SS, but it looks like some melee players prefer SoL over SS.
Just my 2 cents...
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post Feb 20 2013, 08:42
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For melee, depending on pmi and your base action speed, haste/prot/regen2 is sufficient to cover at least >20% hp FSM autoattack damage, so only silence is necessary and using scrolls can cover the occasional gaps if they appear. SoL/SS for insurance if you think you're unable to silence it before 50mp/100sp or the previous cast ends.
This also elevates most of the problem with curseweaving when DW because the first 2 skills will likely cause blind & poison, although the latter should usually end by the time you'll need to reapply silence.
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post Feb 20 2013, 09:57
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How much does stamina affect my battle i currently have 18 and my attack dosent have much affect should i wait a few days?
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post Feb 20 2013, 10:00
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QUOTE(Yuffie Kisaragi @ Feb 19 2013, 23:57) *

How much does stamina affect my battle i currently have 18 and my attack dosent have much affect should i wait a few days?


http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Stamina

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post Feb 20 2013, 10:13
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QUOTE(Yuffie Kisaragi @ Feb 19 2013, 22:57) *

How much does stamina affect my battle i currently have 18 and my attack dosent have much affect should i wait a few days?


Buy some e-drinks, some people are selling them for 12k a piece now so it's relatively cheap to stay in great stamina all the time.
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post Feb 20 2013, 10:38
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At your level it is very possible that you'll lose more than you gain with that though. Depends on difficulty.

18 stam is great for grindfest, you get riddlemasters lot more often. But because of that you generally want more.
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post Feb 20 2013, 14:55
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Thanks for the tips, guys! I'll stick to the Mace, them. Holy-infused, good idea.

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post Feb 20 2013, 15:17
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Token of blood. the number of round affect drop chance?
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post Feb 20 2013, 15:18
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No. Random luck.
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post Feb 20 2013, 17:13
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How hard is Flying Spaghetti Monster on Ring of Blood compared to the first tier bosses?
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post Feb 20 2013, 17:35
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How hard is Flying Spaghetti Monster on Ring of Blood compared to the first tier bosses?

like heaven and hell (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
it's depend on your equipment & difficulty setting (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

use void weapon holy infusion if you melee & spams weaken , silence & slow to FSM (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


if you are mage than just use heimdall set (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Feb 20 2013, 17:50
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QUOTE(ahenayau @ Feb 20 2013, 17:35) *

like heaven and hell (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
it's depend on your equipment & difficulty setting (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

use void weapon holy infusion if you melee & spams weaken , silence & slow to FSM (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
if you are mage than just use heimdall set (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Well, I did the first tiers on IBWTH. Was just wondering if I should stick to Easy on the first try or if it'd be a waste.
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post Feb 20 2013, 17:57
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QUOTE(stormgod @ Feb 21 2013, 01:13) *

How hard is Flying Spaghetti Monster on Ring of Blood compared to the first tier bosses?

Very, very, very much harder. Resistant, almost impervious towards everything except Holy, massive physical and magical mitigations, out-of-this-world speed and HP from Jupiter.

There are essentially 2 safe ways to take FSM out (assumes at least 100 prof in respective styles):

1. Use DW, Weaken + Silence (+ Slow, optionally) FSM, while Haste + Scroll of Speed, Shadow Veil + Scroll of Shadows, Regen II on yourself. Build up OC to max, hit him with Frenzied Blows while on SS. Repeat, debuff and rebuff as necessary. If you have Ethereal/Hollowforged + Holy Strike Rapier on offhand (your mainhand can either be an Axe for speed or Mace for safety).

2. Shield armour, 1H Rapier + Barrier shield. Whip out everything until you've got FSM down to 25% HP, then hit him with Merciful Blows.

Of course, as long as Weaken + Silence is on FSM, any way is a safe way. But time consuming and not mindless.
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post Feb 20 2013, 18:45
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Considering you're going to hunt him down countless time in the futur, you can stick to normal if you're not so sure about yourself. Anyway he's not that hard, just higly resistant and he have tons of HP.

Silence is a good way to avoid is puff of logic, that or Spark of life on you. Other really usefull debuff are weaken and imperil (well, weaken if you can't regen enough life with protection, shadow veil, haste and regen II on you).

The biggest problem is usually his skill Puff of Logic who can OS you without problems (since most peoples don't bother with soul mitigation anyway). The second one is the lenght of the fight. I can only recommand you to take mostly godly mana pots, and one or two spirit pots, in cases off you run off because of stance and/or Spark of life. Scrolls for Shadow Veil or Haste are a good way to limit mana consumption.

I've recently tried to increase the difficulty at which I can kill him and I found myself ending at Battletoads. I use Niten and Heavy Power Armor, no pack rat training yet and no Innate Arcana. So don't fret too much ^^.

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post Feb 20 2013, 18:47
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QUOTE(stormgod @ Feb 20 2013, 23:50) *

Well, I did the first tiers on IBWTH. Was just wondering if I should stick to Easy on the first try or if it'd be a waste.

you cannot fight RoB on easy difficulty (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

well , it's up to you (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Just make sure your deprecating magic prof is high enough (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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