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According to EH Wiki, Arcane Focus (AF) is a "high-cost spell to boost magical damage". Since I always cast deprecating spells, does AF boosts spells like Weaken, Silence & Poison? Should I, as a Melee player consider investing my AP in AF?

According to EH Wiki, Arcane Focus (AF) is a "high-cost spell to boost magical damage". Since I always cast deprecating spells, does AF boosts spells like Weaken, Silence & Poison? Should I, as a Melee player consider investing my AP in AF?

I wouldn't. Later on you'll get another spell "Heartseeker" that will boost your melee, which cannot stack with arcane focus. Look up the wiki on what level you get it, and be sure to save up 5 AP to max it ASAP. It's worth it.

I wouldn't. Later on you'll get another spell "Heartseeker" that will boost your melee, which cannot stack with arcane focus. Look up the wiki on what level you get it, and be sure to save up 5 AP to max it ASAP. It's worth it.

According to the wiki, Heartseeker is unlocked at level 170. What the heck, more grinding...! Thanks.

No, it could be elemental mitigation.

Think about it. I have. If you had a mob that hit you with a special, knocking about 25k off your HP. Now, let's say this got mitigated by 50% PMI/MMI, so it hits you for 12.5k HP. If it was a physical blow, I have ~40% specific mitigation across the board, so it hits me for 7.5k, and if I had Regen II going, I instantly recover ~1.3k of that damage.

Now, if it were a magical hit, well, against any of the 4 elements, you could have a maximum of 45% mitigation from Auras and Abilities alone (not counting armour effect), which brings the damage down to 6,875k. But now, Auras don't matter, so the damage (against a max of 30% mitigation) is 8.75k HP. Which, surprise surprise, is more or less the amount Regen II will recover. In other words, I got a free Regen II effect JUST from Auras.

In real life, someone below level 300 is unlikely to have maxed out ability trees (unless he was a mage), so we're talking about an effective elemental mitigation of 0. But with the appropriate Auras back then, you could still mitigate 15% of the blow, which is ~2k worth of damage.

It may not sound like much, but that 2k could be the difference between being able to whip out a Cure/II, and SoL taking a gigantic chunk of SP out (or dying completely).

Exactly, for those without forged gear and mitigation of 0 across the board the aura bonus actually saved a bit of sp, mp etc. I noticed the people who didn't find it useful were light users so their resist was sky high, for us heavy without resist to speak of, counting on mitigation to smooth out damage, it was useful.

If you want holy, phase is the only choice IMO. Gossamer is good only for 4 (fire/cold/wind/lighting) elemental . But a good holy phase set is expensive.

Very viable. Holy and Dark work better than their elemental cousins, yes. More expensive though, you might want to use elemental until you can get a decent holy set put together as elemental gear is magnitude or two cheaper than similar holy gear.

Long-term, you probably want to use holy as gear values scale exponentially, meaning past certain value holy becomes better than elemental.

@Colman: gossamer is actually more viable for holy, as new oak outdoes new redwood and benefits from gossamer in feet slot while giving more damage per credit in forge while only being slightly behind initially. Not to mention that replacement costs naturally give forging an advantage with holy, so gossamer, requiring no phazons, is even more viable, while elemental phase doesn't really merit forging below legendary. Elemental doesn't have such advantages for gossamer, and the all-boosting effect might be only useful to boost secondary follow-up by about 10%

Thanks again! I still didn't had a chance to try dark and soul spells ( lvl 100 for soul, and >100 for dark), but I know that soul spells are based on dark + holy, so I don't need to worry about focusing on soul spells. Dark however, is dark by any means better than holy? Or are they 'equal' ? I've noticed that 'Condemn' makes foes vulnerable to dark.

Also, regarding the staff thing, I've been looking for kataloxes so far, should I look for Oak?
I also looked on wiki now(before submitting this post, that is) and it mentions that Katalox has mid holy damage and high divine, forbidden and depreciating proficiencies, while oak has Very high holy damage and mid divine and elemental prof. So it looks like a tradeof between holy damage and holy proficiency. How do they affect my damage, Which I should choose over the other?

Thanks!

According to the wiki, Heartseeker is unlocked at level 170. What the heck, more grinding...! Thanks.

you are level 132, thats like 2 days of moderate-light grinding. (play some on IWBTH)

Its worth noting that if the difference between your current prof and max prof (your level) is large you get a huge boost to gaining proficiency, so grinding proficiency is totally pointless betfore you hit the level ~250 XP wall. Even playing on normal you will be leveling up too fast prior to 200.

Did schoolgirl hp fall in the last week? They were 1.6M hp for me previously but now 1.2M (always same difficulty BT).

TienTobia: Katalox(of Destruction, mostly) is most useful for it's cycling benefit which boosts secondary spell a notable amount, allowing for stronger explosions and better targeting for, say, celestials when using holy. You still want all phase of 1 element, of course, as the aim is still oneshotting as many mobs as possible with first volley.

Oak is notably weaker than katalox in terms of boosting holy even when including it's anti-resist and supportive prof, generally speaking. But individual oaks can be better than individual kataloxes, similarly, an oak with high prof and low EDB(for oak) would want all-phase set to pair with it. Your best bet for choosing equips is magic scores script, as that tells you whether you lose or gain damage (of an element), rendering questions such as "should I use this oak of superior quality to my current katalox" null.

Holy has bit more nasty enemies, but in general is better for a while than dark due holy EDB boosting cure heals and that tier 4 dark isn't very useful in killing more monsters at the level it is unlocked at(due slow cast speed, mainly) while purge is still useful to lap up damaged mobs. Don't bother with soul, as it will require some very heavily forged gossamer to be usable and even then mech's which have 50 to holy have 50 to soul as well.

Arxdewn: Yes.

This post has been edited by Lement: Feb 19 2013, 18:37

Heyas folks,

2 dumb questions:

1) One of my monster drops pulled a Crystallized Phazon, which looking through the wiki is a material for a cloth armor forging. What I'm surprised about is the price of it for selling to the Bazaar and what people want to buy it for. Are these that rare of an item, or is it just that hard to upgrade cloth armor sets? The reason why I wonder is I've seen (and have), shade, kevlar, and shield pieces, but none would sell for the price of the phazon.

2) Speaking of the Bazaar, the item shop has become ponyville the last month or so with the boatload of figurines that have landed there. What, did the Orbital friendship cannon get shut down, or something else that I missed?


laters,

RRViper
(even so, I'm not planning to buy them all that I need for 2.3million, not that I have that much anyway)

The special pieces for upgrading equipment (Phazon, Kevlar Piece, Repurposed etc) are a bit rare of course. What makes it more valuable is the fact lots of peoples are using mage' stuff.

Phazon is needed to forge phase cloths.

And finally, cloth pieces can often have higher EDB than non-EDB staff. Also, several mages have close to maxed out staves so they're left with forging clothes for damage.

This post has been edited by Lement: Feb 19 2013, 19:57

Heyas folks,

2 dumb questions:

1) One of my monster drops pulled a Crystallized Phazon, which looking through the wiki is a material for a cloth armor forging. What I'm surprised about is the price of it for selling to the Bazaar and what people want to buy it for. Are these that rare of an item, or is it just that hard to upgrade cloth armor sets? The reason why I wonder is I've seen (and have), shade, kevlar, and shield pieces, but none would sell for the price of the phazon.

2) Speaking of the Bazaar, the item shop has become ponyville the last month or so with the boatload of figurines that have landed there. What, did the Orbital friendship cannon get shut down, or something else that I missed?
laters,

RRViper
(even so, I'm not planning to buy them all that I need for 2.3million, not that I have that much anyway)

Taking the question of RRViper, I also don't have the ponies collection, just how strong is the orbital friendship cannon?

Void aoe, 500% physical damage mod. Cleave is 350% mod if you want a comparison.

You have the formula here.

Is the Niten right ? I do more damages than that with Skyward sword.

This post has been edited by Falbala456: Feb 19 2013, 20:35

Taking the question of RRViper, I also don't have the ponies collection, just how strong is the orbital friendship cannon?

look in the highest damage done thread.

OFC does more damage if you melee.

i get a million damage vs T&T final round with just max OC + spirit stance + PA. You can mess with soul stones, bubble-gum & Flower Vase to get many times that.

falbala: Things such as rending blow which inflict penetrated armor do it before the hit actually lands.

Aaah, right. Didn't thought about that. Because while calculating I was more around a 1.5 multiplier.

This post has been edited by Falbala456: Feb 19 2013, 21:22

Are you sure PA happens before the damage of the blow that inflicts it?

You can test it yourself if you don't believe me.