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Feb 11 2013, 06:15
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Herp in your Derp
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Afaik yes. Everything before offhand acc stops being relevant once it reaches a sum of 50.
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Feb 11 2013, 09:19
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HNTI
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@n125: My proficiencies : Elemental 164.09 Divine 177.93 Forbidden 111.23 Gear : [ i47.tinypic.com] http://i47.tinypic.com/1zwyjvo.jpgP.S : I forgot the shortcut to make links to the gear (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif). This post has been edited by HNTI: Feb 11 2013, 09:22
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Feb 11 2013, 10:06
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PK678353
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QUOTE(HNTI @ Feb 11 2013, 03:19)  @n125: My proficiencies : Elemental 164.09 Divine 177.93 Forbidden 111.23 Gear : [ i47.tinypic.com] http://i47.tinypic.com/1zwyjvo.jpgP.S : I forgot the shortcut to make links to the gear (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif). Shortcut is c. Just from the base stats I can see, your gear needs work. Potentially a lot of work. At that prof, you should be moving to using Fenrir Phase anyway (assuming that 111.23 is before Gossamer boosts). Actually, found your other problem. Invest in some Spirit Tanks. 213 Spirit is why you keep dying, you have no buffer. I end up Sparking 2-4 times per RE, plus Spirit Shield chunks, but my 700 SP buffer can take it. This post has been edited by PK678353: Feb 11 2013, 10:08
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Feb 11 2013, 10:13
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Colman
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QUOTE(letmegitdat @ Feb 11 2013, 11:33)  Ok, I recently went from lvl 55 to my current lvl110 but I feel like I'm leveling too fast...My equipment has been pretty much the same for the last 60 levels... Exqusite Focus staff, with +lightning, +elemental. full set of phase mojinar my problem is my damage is starting to take a dip at this level, and i feel like its only going to get worse...Tier 3 lightning is at something like lvl170??? 60 levels away... I am thinking about switching to either holy or dark before its too late...but I have 70+ prof in elem., 0 in divine, 0 forbidden (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) I am getting 140-160K exp (1/2 a level) per fight doing random encounters on battletoad but only 50-100 credits....I can't even afford to train anymore... let alone get equipment for a transition... how do I make enough credits to actually keep up with with training and equipment??? I run e@home 24/7 but the income is sooo low... I don't think magic proficiency is a problem since it go up very fast. I just start playing dark mage part time few days ago and my dark prof is already 280+.
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Feb 11 2013, 10:59
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n125
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QUOTE(HNTI @ Feb 10 2013, 23:19)  @n125: My proficiencies : Elemental 164.09 Divine 177.93 Forbidden 111.23 Gear : [ i47.tinypic.com] http://i47.tinypic.com/1zwyjvo.jpgP.S : I forgot the shortcut to make links to the gear (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif). In addition to what has already been said, if you're using dark spells, you should be using a destruction/fenrir/demon-fiend katalox staff, or at the very least, a destruction willow staff. You're using a pre-patch redwood staff, which really isn't doing much for you; it has low MDM, no holy and dark EDBs, and low proficiency bonuses.
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Feb 11 2013, 12:44
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letmegitdat
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QUOTE(Arxdewn @ Feb 11 2013, 05:52)  4 years of running HATH and you lack money? What happened to all your income? Even at a minimal connection you'd receive around 3 Hath / day, which would be over 4k Hath, or nearly 65 million credits.
dunno if that was referring to me, but I've only been running it for about a year... on and off. I take breaks here and there to run my other shares... but that's besides my point. What I mean is fighting arenas can't feed the credit requirements to continually train and upgrade equips... especially since i feel like i need to dump my elemental gear to transition... I was wondering how others managed it. I have Scavenger 16 LotD 5 Quartermaster 4 Arch 2 my drops net me a couple hundred credits on a *great* day... but i have more potions than I know what to do with... BTW is this normal? Total Artifacts found: 1 pieces (2092.0 rounds per artifact) This post has been edited by letmegitdat: Feb 11 2013, 12:49
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Feb 11 2013, 13:27
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unknownxz.
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QUOTE(letmegitdat @ Feb 11 2013, 17:44)  dunno if that was referring to me, but I've only been running it for about a year... on and off. I take breaks here and there to run my other shares... but that's besides my point. What I mean is fighting arenas can't feed the credit requirements to continually train and upgrade equips... especially since i feel like i need to dump my elemental gear to transition... I was wondering how others managed it.
BTW is this normal? Total Artifacts found: 1 pieces (2092.0 rounds per artifact)
ahh.. i think you should train Ability boost and Adept Learner first, because it's cheaper and when you reach lv200+ you will get credits more than enough for your training. * 1 artifact per 2000 rounds is normal for me. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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Feb 11 2013, 13:37
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hamtarofreak
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QUOTE(letmegitdat @ Feb 11 2013, 12:44)  dunno if that was referring to me, but I've only been running it for about a year... on and off. I take breaks here and there to run my other shares... but that's besides my point. What I mean is fighting arenas can't feed the credit requirements to continually train and upgrade equips... especially since i feel like i need to dump my elemental gear to transition... I was wondering how others managed it.
I have Scavenger 16 LotD 5 Quartermaster 4 Arch 2
my drops net me a couple hundred credits on a *great* day... but i have more potions than I know what to do with...
BTW is this normal? Total Artifacts found: 1 pieces (2092.0 rounds per artifact)
Total Artifacts found: 19 pieces (554.3 rounds per artifact) Scav 20 LotD 11 Arch 3 Either you're super unlucky or I'm super lucky But yeah, I feel the same way, my credit income isn't anywhere near what it would need to be for me to have decent gear or have stuff trained to where I'd like it to be This post has been edited by hamtarofreak: Feb 11 2013, 13:38
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Feb 11 2013, 14:02
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letmegitdat
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Feb 11 2013, 14:09
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christianwah
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mine is 769.2 rounds per artifact, so I guess yours is the one that's strange, maybe you're just unlucky
16 scav 8 lotd 6 quart 3 arch
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Feb 11 2013, 14:17
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xmagus
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QUOTE(hamtarofreak @ Feb 11 2013, 21:37)  Total Artifacts found: 19 pieces (554.3 rounds per artifact) Scav 20 LotD 11 Arch 3
Either you're super unlucky or I'm super lucky But yeah, I feel the same way, my credit income isn't anywhere near what it would need to be for me to have decent gear or have stuff trained to where I'd like it to be
It cost me a bundle, but I've got Arch 6 and I get an artifact every 110 rounds or so. By the way, elemental strikes aren't really 100% guaranteed even on offhand crits, are they?
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Feb 11 2013, 14:23
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christianwah
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QUOTE(xmagus @ Feb 11 2013, 20:17)  By the way, elemental strikes aren't really 100% guaranteed even on offhand crits, are they?
nope, they do. scroll down on your character's page right panel
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Feb 11 2013, 14:32
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Falbala456
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QUOTE By the way, elemental strikes aren't really 100% guaranteed even on offhand crits, are they? When you don't see them, it's because the ennemy's dead. It takes a long time to reduce the "average number of rounds" to drop an artifact. Slowly grinding my way under 500 for now, we'll see in the futur (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif).
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Feb 11 2013, 15:40
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YinX
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Just to make sure I go this right: If you have one of the trophy's (Dalek Voicebox, Black T-Shirt, Nodly, all the others) in your inventory, your item drop quality improves? But having more than one won't change the item drop quality?
And another question, do Figurines have a similar impact or any other benefit before you have 21 of them?
This post has been edited by YinX: Feb 11 2013, 15:41
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Feb 11 2013, 16:35
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n125
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QUOTE(letmegitdat @ Feb 11 2013, 02:44)  dunno if that was referring to me, but I've only been running it for about a year... on and off. I take breaks here and there to run my other shares... but that's besides my point. What I mean is fighting arenas can't feed the credit requirements to continually train and upgrade equips... especially since i feel like i need to dump my elemental gear to transition... I was wondering how others managed it.
I have Scavenger 16 LotD 5 Quartermaster 4 Arch 2
my drops net me a couple hundred credits on a *great* day... but i have more potions than I know what to do with...
BTW is this normal? Total Artifacts found: 1 pieces (2092.0 rounds per artifact)
That is all normal. Don't expect your earning power, which will increase as you level up nevertheless, to be proportional to expenditures. Things are nice and cheap at the beginning but quickly scale up in cost, as you're starting to notice. You have to be patient and save your credits until you can afford whatever it is you want. Selling things like items, equipment, and hath to other players will help, but like everything in this game, it's still a grind. QUOTE(YinX @ Feb 11 2013, 05:40)  Just to make sure I go this right: If you have one of the trophy's (Dalek Voicebox, Black T-Shirt, Nodly, all the others) in your inventory, your item drop quality improves? But having more than one won't change the item drop quality?
And another question, do Figurines have a similar impact or any other benefit before you have 21 of them?
No, trophies do no such thing. http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Items#TrophiesFigurines do nothing before you have 21 of them in your inventory; once you do, you will be able to use the Orbital Friendship Cannon skill.
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Feb 11 2013, 16:46
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xmagus
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QUOTE(Seldren @ Feb 12 2013, 00:36)  Sorry going to be a slightly long winded post:
I just recently started playing the game and am having a slightly tough time trying to build some credits to start getting some gear upgrades. ... ... ... any advice would greatly be appreciated and would also like any tips you can give a new player.
The greatest piece of advice I can give you is this: stop trying for now. You cannot earn sufficient credits. You don't have access to high-level Arenas (which give you a 1st-time clear bonus of 50K). You don't have access to the high-level RoBs (which give you insane 1st-time clear bonuses). You don't have access to many, many arenas so that you can amass sufficient credits just from clearing them. You don't have the requisite trainings which will give you more and better quality drops which you can then sell off for credits. If you really want to gain credits, then run the H@H client for hath, which are selling from 15k-16k a pop. Also, don't bother upgrading anything that isn't a Magnificent or a Legendary (unless it's an Exquisite of really good rolls). Your best bet is to look around the WTS shops for free stuff, or cheap stuff that's still high quality. But take heart: once you hit level 150 or so, then you can really begin to earn credits. And it's really, really easy to get to that stage; a month ought to do it.
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Feb 11 2013, 16:54
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Seldren
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thanks for the advice, atleast now I know not to waste anymore time and just focus on grinding out exp. very helpful (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Feb 11 2013, 17:06
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HNTI
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@n125: I use it mainly to reduce cost of Mana. Taking 25 % form 3rd tier spells is quite a lot when I have to do 100 rounds. @destruction/fenrir/demon-fiend katalox staff: I know, but which one is better a gear with spell or proficiency bonus ? @PK678353: Do you mean lack of forge upgrades by "lots of work" ? I'm partly aware of how it works. Reforging and other sophisticated stuff is dark black magic for me (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif). "Invest in some Spirit Tanks. " I guess, I'll need to say hello to almost forgotten training : ability boost. This post has been edited by HNTI: Feb 11 2013, 17:06
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Feb 11 2013, 17:14
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YinX
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Thanks for all the answers! QUOTE(christianwah @ Feb 11 2013, 13:09)  mine is 769.2 rounds per artifact
Where do I find this statistic?
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