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I've a question for melee users. What would be considered a "good" Base Damage ? At lvl 350~.

Mizuhime: Fair warning, mages get weaker as they level up at high level.
But they're best for RoB, worst for long series of high difficulty battles, though you might want to use bad holy set rather than cold to take down FSM.

Loot drop trainings....I suggest you get decent set of free equips and train the first half levels of them all, as that pays off rather quickly. Though Ability boost is incredibly good for you right now too, so you may want to stagger them first. But I think the first level of scavenger pays off probably in under a day.

ok thats not what i whant to hear (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) but anyways i like magic way to much to play meele
espacialy when i have ice (water)
so high lvl content will be hard...i dont care ^^

competition is on (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

ur mage right? did u finish all arena challenges at IWBTH? is it possible?

I've a question for melee users. What would be considered a "good" Base Damage ? At lvl 350~.

I have almost 6k with shade at level 330. So "good" at level 350 would probably be 6500-7000. I think that would be full power though. I'm not sure how high a full slaughter set would get you...

This post has been edited by T_Starrk: Feb 3 2013, 20:48

I've said 350~ as in "around those lvls" ^^.

Ok, just making an innacurate projection between our lvl and our damage I think I'm doind good then.

Mizuhime: Yes, I'm fire mage, but no, I didn't - I could, with ET, but it isn't simply worth the time. Nowadays I do first few arenas on great stam/nightmare and rest on normal stamina & heroic, as this lets me maintain resemblance to my style of maging. With proper usage of items I could do BT arenas too without needing to use ET unless unlucky, but the style I use there is much different.

Also, I have to sadly tell you that the elemental circle places elements at the order of Holy<(situation)>Dark>Elec<(level)>Wind>Fire>Cold. The reason I use fire is that it is the first elemental tier 3 spell that became available, enabling me to gather millions from IWing between 125 and 200 and that fire is magnitudes cheaper than holy.

Once you get at around my level and bit higher, though, the elemental spells lose their luster twice more due the monsters with 25 resistance becoming a nuisance - cold and fire hurt from this the most due giants.

Raising SP via stats is of dubious usefulness to a mage.

No it isn't.

Spirit Shield use a percentage of base SP

Wrong.

Mages rarely use Spirit Stance though.

That's not true either.

I've said 350~ as in "around those lvls" ^^.

Ok, just making an innacurate projection between our lvl and our damage I think I'm doind good then.

Most people by that level have a main weapon that's forged quite a bit. If you want to have high damage, I suggest you focus on your weapon. Find a slaughter estoc/scythe with high base damage and start forging (although with slaughter bindings and hg metals at the current prices it won't be cheap). Anyway, remember, damage isn't everything. Right now I can do higher difficulty IW runs with my plate set-up with almost 900 less damage than my power. You don't want to sacrifice too much mitigation for damage if you are a heavy armor user.

I see you are a niten user (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) . Well, you might want to find a nice ethereal katana of slaughter then.

This post has been edited by T_Starrk: Feb 3 2013, 21:14

Since 2009 yes (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) .

Oh don't worry, I'm not focused on something (only my enjoyment so far). I was just merely asking to have an idea. As a melee fighter, I think you have to notice a bit how your damages are going.
And yeah, of course I'm wary of my mitigations, well, maybe it's a bit low (I've got 52% physical right now).

I have almost 6k with shade at level 330. So "good" at level 350 would probably be 6500-7000. I think that would be full power though. I'm not sure how high a full slaughter set would get you...

total base damage depends on the weapon and how many forge upgrades it has more so them the armor. Not many people will put a ton of slaughter bindings into their armor unless they did a weapon or 2 first.

+10k would be pretty good for power/slaughter using a +4000 damage weapon. a scythe could be 4500-5000. I think you can get in the range of 15k with a lot of forged armor and levels.

No it isn't.
Wrong.
That's not true either.

Fairly sure Spirit Shield does use base spirit to calculate damage though
"The amount of Spirit damage depends on the power of the blow that was absorbed, and is 40% of base spirit (reducible to 20% at max AP) for blows that would otherwise take off 100% or more health, linearly reducing to 0% of base spirit at exactly 25% damage."

Yes you're right, Arxdewn.


Edit: As for mages using spirit stance, I don't know about other mages but I don't use spirit stance.

This post has been edited by Slobber: Feb 3 2013, 22:22

Should I start forging my Estoc or should I wait for a better one?

wait.

ty lemant for the tipp with randomencounter and high difficulty^^ im doing it on "nintendo" and its so fun xD
edit: hm...unless i get 1combo'd^^ (still 7:1 for me) ...i have to test if there is a way to prevent instant death befor i get me 2 buffs up or tune down the difficulty, what i realy dont whant to do

and ya i know i cant use cold vs later openents most of the time (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
but i will switch to holy/dark at lvl ~150 and later to soul (~250+) for max dmg
but will still use cold (for slow) and wind (for evasion)
need something to maintain mana (other than ET) for long battles (like 500+ mobs) <- this needs a buff for mages (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

is it good to have void as staff dmg?
can somepony mage around lvl 300+ post his item stats?
i think high evasion and int are critical to not get 1combod and try to burstdmg/heal to victory

why arent scythes for mages -.- if anypony playd "vindicticus" you know what i mean (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

This post has been edited by Mizuhime: Feb 3 2013, 23:41

The RE tip wasn't me, but if you want to complete them on IWBTH bring scrolls of life.
150 is overestimating...Once you start to fight PL800s, it gets troublesome.

Soul is not as good as holy/dark.

Healing isn't dependent on your INT. Evasion matters, but not as much as damage

First time playing heavy in awhile, almost died in battletoads trio (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I seriously wonder how people with full power survive, almost ran out of mana curing with my 70.4% mit all-plate-except-power-protection-boots setup.

Which set would be better for fast clearing of arenas? Power of balance or Power of slaughter?

After having my attack parried in 4 consecutive time, I suppose having 50% crit (my current crit is 30%) is more important than high base damage.

Thought?

First time playing heavy in awhile, almost died in battletoads trio (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I seriously wonder how people with full power survive, almost ran out of mana curing with my 70.4% mit all-plate-except-power-protection-boots setup.

IA4 and focus (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

holy demon: Crit doesn't ignore parry or evade.

The only melee things that ignore Parry/Evade are skills anyway.

First time playing heavy in awhile, almost died in battletoads trio sad.gif I seriously wonder how people with full power survive, almost ran out of mana curing with my 70.4% mit all-plate-except-power-protection-boots setup.

What about your prof too ~~.

Hi, everyone,since the hentaiverse has been upgrade to 0.73, I found that I have been heavily nerfed. Now I can not even clear 180 rounds item world in X25 difficulty without feather weight shard and 80+ stamina (believe or not, I had only one god mana left when I finish 180 rounds item world with 80+ stamina and feather weight shard (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) ) Here is the list of my equipment:
Estoc
Head
body
hands
legs
feet
As you can see, they are not too bad to become the bottleneck to me to fight in X25 IW. So can you guys give me any tips to fight in item world in X25 difficulty? Do I have to use focus to restore mana all the time instead of triggering SP as long as over charge is full to fight or there are some better way?