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Jan 31 2013, 08:49
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PK678353
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QUOTE(Jaiim @ Jan 31 2013, 00:46)  I just recently managed to take out all the schoolgirl bosses in the Ring of Blood using Holy spells and wearing Heaven-Sent Gossamer. What sort of preparations should I make for the last few (Real Life, Invisible Pink Unicorn, FSM) on normal difficulty?
Real Life looks particularly troublesome with no weaknesses (spam Magic Missile? whack it with an Ethereal staff?). I'll probably wait til 150 for the Unicorn so I can use Dark spells. Tempted to just jump in and try FSM since it's weak to Holy, but I know it probably won't be that easy...
If you've still got a good Elemental set then Imperiling RL/IPU and spamming T3 Elemental works well enough. They don't have a weakness so you make one. You only have to smack them down once for the credits (and once at IWBTH if you want your RoB to look pretty), since FSM's trophy is the best (and you won't have too many tokens unless you get Tokenizer). This does of course require sufficient Deprecating to stick Weaken, Silence, Imperil and maybe Slow. I did all 3 of the Gods at about level 150 IWBTH with that strategy (Regen II FTW), but that was before the HP buff (however, RL has half the HP of FSM). This post has been edited by PK678353: Jan 31 2013, 08:54
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Jan 31 2013, 10:01
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AbaDe
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hey guys : wanna go for the ultimate test : Dance with Dragons on BT to get FUS Skill :Help to whats i should do to beat them : Advice please ........ My Stats : QUOTE Malee player Main : HP : 17220 Magic : 1636 Spirit : 958 Physical Attack : 2H , Plate . Estoc : http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=8628217ffe4409.2 Physical Attack Physical Mitigation : 68.1 Magical Mitigation : 57.7 Attack Accuracy : 161% Crit Chance : 42.5% Mana Cost : 146% (Does not want to use shards) Piercing Mitigation : 43% Avoidance Stats : 11.3% Evade 0% Block 33.4% Parry 13.4% Resist Effective Proficiency : Two Handed : 300.0 Heavy Armour : 298.7 Depreciating : 55.6 Supportive : 280.4 (My Regen - II Lasts for about 141 turns healing 1467/turn) Action speed : 240 Overcharge : 270 This post has been edited by AbaDe: Jan 31 2013, 10:07
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Jan 31 2013, 10:05
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Lement
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Isn't IPU half and RL quarter?
And tbh, if you got the spirit to tank, just stack an absorb scroll on and cruise through with just SoL, odds are you can survive most MP attacks.
HigherMakoto: Spending credits for crystals, PL25s pay off in about a week, and further upgrade take between a year to half a year to pay off depending what level you settle at(assuming you check your monsters at right times ofc) - those are assumed from values of mid, high and low mats, tbh, and pretty much every binding is higher than low and majority of them higher than mid. Though if you're serious about ML get crystarium to max, as it pays off in even shorter time if you gf consistently, sth around 4 months I'd wager....
This has obvious implications for long-term wealth, but you actually have to put year+ effort in it to start to see significant benefit. Otherwise just create tons of PL25s.
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Jan 31 2013, 10:35
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elda88
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1. I just got one Token of Blood. How hard is it to beat Mandearpig, White Bunneh, Mithra or Dalek on Normal/Hard/Heroic/Nightmare difficulty?
2. How important is owning Magnificent & Legendary equipments? I mean, is it a major factor when dealing with very high level monsters and mobs? When reaching Level 150 or Level 200, do Exquisite & Superior equipments still have any use anymore?
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Jan 31 2013, 10:53
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PK678353
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QUOTE(hujan86 @ Jan 31 2013, 04:35)  1. I just got one Token of Blood. How hard is it to beat Mandearpig, White Bunneh, Mithra or Dalek on Normal/Hard/Heroic/Nightmare difficulty?
2. How important is owning Magnificent & Legendary equipments? I mean, is it a major factor when dealing with very high level monsters and mobs? When reaching Level 150 or Level 200, do Exquisite & Superior equipments still have any use anymore?
1. Go two more levels and get Spark of Life. That way you can do it in complete safety. They're pretty wimpy unless they hit you with their Spirit Attack, but that attack has a tendency to kill the unprepared. But really, they're pretty wimpy. But at level 98, why not get Spark? 2. Mag/Leg isn't that important. I see 200+ players (especially melee or Holy/Dark) running around with good Superiors all the time. Good is of course the operative word, as bad Superiors are trash and will get you killed. Honestly, good Exquisites are usually competitive with all but the best Mag/Leg stuff. You don't need Mag/Leg, it's just an extra edge. If you're running one of the better builds, Mag/Leg will be both overly expensive and unnecessary, unless you're looking to play at the highest levels, basically competitively. That said, Mag/Leg is important if you're looking to forge or heavily IW an item. Little below Mag is worth putting serious work into, except Exquisites in powerful, rare categories. And at 200+, Mag/Leg gear is often the only gear that actually improves your capabilities. This post has been edited by PK678353: Jan 31 2013, 11:23
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Jan 31 2013, 11:06
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elda88
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QUOTE(PK678353 @ Jan 31 2013, 16:53)  1. Go two more levels and get Spark of Life. That way you can do it in complete safety. They're pretty wimpy unless they hit you with their Spirit Attack, but that attack has a tendency to kill the unprepared. But really, they're pretty wimpy. But at level 98, why not get Spark?
I don't see Spark in the Abilities page. Maybe it's because I am a Melee player. I do have X-item & X-attack. QUOTE(PK678353 @ Jan 31 2013, 16:53)  2. Mag/Leg isn't that important. I see 200+ players (especially melee or Holy/Dark) running around with good Superiors all the time. Good is of course the operative word, as bad Superiors are trash and will get you killed. Honestly, good Exquisites are usually competitive with all but the best Mag/Leg stuff. You don't need Mag/Leg, it's just an extra edge. If you're running one of the better builds, Mag/Leg will be both overly expensive and unnecessary, [i]unless you're looking to play at the highest levels, basically competitively[i].
That said, Mag/Leg is important if you're looking to forge or heavily IW an item. Little below Mag is worth putting serious work into, except Exquisites in powerful, rare categories. And at 200+, Mag/Leg gear is often the only gear that actually improves your capabilities.
I should take everything slow & steady then. I've yet to up the Difficulty, but suddenly monsters in hourly battles can reduce my Health to below 1000 no problem even when I cast Shadow Veil & Protection.
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Jan 31 2013, 11:26
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PK678353
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QUOTE(hujan86 @ Jan 31 2013, 05:06)  I don't see Spark in the Abilities page. Maybe it's because I am a Melee player. I do have X-item & X-attack. I should take everything slow & steady then. I've yet to up the Difficulty, but suddenly monsters in hourly battles can reduce my Health to below 1000 no problem even when I cast Shadow Veil & Protection.
Spark is in the level 100 abilities tier. You want it maxed, since it basically saves you from death and gives you 5 rounds to kick ass mostly unimpeded (well, 3-4 after you've Cured and Re-Sparked). This post has been edited by PK678353: Jan 31 2013, 11:31
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Jan 31 2013, 11:44
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pervdiz
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QUOTE(hujan86 @ Jan 31 2013, 09:35)  1. I just got one Token of Blood. How hard is it to beat Mandearpig, White Bunneh, Mithra or Dalek on Normal/Hard/Heroic/Nightmare difficulty?
I stomped the 3 first on normal at 50, and Dalek at 60ish. Can't talk about higher difficulty though. Btw I play as melee too, but since I use light armor I didn't bother with protection, only haste and SV. Also, I use weaken a lot when I play on nintendo for hourly (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Jan 31 2013, 11:52
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elda88
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QUOTE(pervdiz @ Jan 31 2013, 17:44)  I stomped the 3 first on normal at 50, and Dalek at 60ish. Can't talk about higher difficulty though. Btw I play as melee too, but since I use light armor I didn't bother with protection, only haste and SV. Also, I use weaken a lot when I play on nintendo for hourly (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Oh, really? I use a combination of Kevlars and Shades. Protection isn't useful for Light Armor?
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Jan 31 2013, 11:58
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HigherMakoto
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QUOTE(christianwah @ Jan 30 2013, 22:02)  just don't use any credit on it and it will become worthwhile,
I have spent only less than 10k on it and got some mid-grade metal to give forge my ethereal weapon. Well, it does take a long time though
But having your monster kill somebody is sooooooo satisfying though.
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Jan 31 2013, 12:05
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☆Loli Police☆
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I have 103 Artifacts just gathering dust in my inventory. I have the worst of luck when it comes to using the shrine. I wanted to know if I should give it a shot on trying to shrine them. Or should I just sell them, or keep collecting them.
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Jan 31 2013, 12:05
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nindel
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Hello! Should I spend credits upgrading my main weapon for now ( Exquisite Katalox Staff of Destruction), or stock up on stuff until much much later when I can afford something like a Magnificent or Legendary?
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Jan 31 2013, 12:11
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christianwah
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QUOTE(hujan86 @ Jan 31 2013, 17:52)  Oh, really? I use a combination of Kevlars and Shades. Protection isn't useful for Light Armor?
Depends, if you are using Kevlar, use protection, since it increases your PMI If you are using shade, use SV since it boosts your evade as for me, I use both (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) just so that I need to use less regen
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Jan 31 2013, 12:45
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aiwotorimodose
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QUOTE(AbaDe @ Jan 31 2013, 15:01)  hey guys : wanna go for the ultimate test :
Dance with Dragons on BT to get FUS Skill :
Help to whats i should do to beat them : Advice please ........
My Stats : Action speed : 240 Overcharge : 270
have you tried marathons with less schoolgirls first for comparison? dwd has 3 times schoolgirls than most marathons, so at least the mana usage for depre spell is multiplied by 3. I don't think you can do it without shards with that setup. QUOTE(hujan86 @ Jan 31 2013, 15:35)  1. I just got one Token of Blood. How hard is it to beat Mandearpig, White Bunneh, Mithra or Dalek on Normal/Hard/Heroic/Nightmare difficulty?
2. How important is owning Magnificent & Legendary equipments? I mean, is it a major factor when dealing with very high level monsters and mobs? When reaching Level 150 or Level 200, do Exquisite & Superior equipments still have any use anymore?
1. you only need to clear non-fsm RoB once for the clear bonus, so just do it on normal. 2. Exq+ has additional bonus to their stat, which can give even better pluses when forged http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Equipment#Quality . But it doesn't mean they're a must have, each type of gear has its own preferable stat and use, for example I can do iwbth fsm just fine with superior and lower quality heimdall phase set (with good EDB, Int & Wis). QUOTE(nindel @ Jan 31 2013, 17:05)  Hello! Should I spend credits upgrading my main weapon for now ( Exquisite Katalox Staff of Destruction), or stock up on stuff until much much later when I can afford something like a Magnificent or Legendary? it's up to you. IMO using non-rare mats is ok, but keep the rare mats for better equip. as each forge with rare mats (HG wood & dest binding) can cost you more than the exquisite staff itself. This post has been edited by aiwotorimodose: Jan 31 2013, 12:46
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Jan 31 2013, 12:58
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4EverLost
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QUOTE(ShatteredWings @ Jan 31 2013, 10:05)  I have 103 Artifacts just gathering dust in my inventory. I have the worst of luck when it comes to using the shrine. I wanted to know if I should give it a shot on trying to shrine them. Or should I just sell them, or keep collecting them.
really depends on what you want from them. Hath crystals (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) ED AP Stat points for everything but the last 2 you are better off selling them for what you want. even if you have the crystal perks and can get 500 from a artifact, you can buy more crystals from other players with the credits you can sell the artifact for.
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Jan 31 2013, 13:42
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aloc1234
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QUOTE(ShatteredWings @ Jan 31 2013, 12:05)  I have 103 Artifacts just gathering dust in my inventory. I have the worst of luck when it comes to using the shrine. I wanted to know if I should give it a shot on trying to shrine them. Or should I just sell them, or keep collecting them.
Yeah, I also know someone who buys artifacts <cough> <cough>.
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Jan 31 2013, 15:46
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BlackSpectrum
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so.... if i put cure II or I on a auto-cast slot, it will cast itself every round until it consumes 90% of my mana? thats kinda of a waste
This post has been edited by BlackSpectrum: Jan 31 2013, 15:47
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Jan 31 2013, 15:55
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Colman
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QUOTE(BlackSpectrum @ Jan 31 2013, 21:46)  so.... if i put cure II or I on a auto-cast slot, it will cast itself every round until it consumes 90% of my mana? thats kinda of a waste
Cure and regen cannot be put in IA slot.
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Jan 31 2013, 16:24
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janusi
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Yeah, auto-slots are for stuff like Haste and Shadow Veil.
Where and how exactly should I grind my proficiencies if I don't want to waste Stamina? Say I want to grind depreciative. Do I go into a crude item world, deplete my mana casting the same spell, then Flee, or do I that in the Grindfest? And what's the best way to grind armor/weapon proficiencies in the crude item worlds? Usually I just fight normally.
Now that Arenas also have a Riddlemaster challenge after the first match, should I do anything in particular at the start of them?
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Jan 31 2013, 16:57
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aiwotorimodose
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QUOTE(janusi @ Jan 31 2013, 21:24)  Where and how exactly should I grind my proficiencies if I don't want to waste Stamina? Say I want to grind depreciative. Do I go into a crude item world, deplete my mana casting the same spell, then Flee, or do I that in the Grindfest? And what's the best way to grind armor/weapon proficiencies in the crude item worlds? Usually I just fight normally.
yes, you can do that, equip high mana conservative staff and high wis gear, go to crude easy IW cast weaken then recast until all of your mana pot depleted. for weapon and armor you can just do all available arena daily and they will built up naturally. you can also do crude iwbth IW, good luck with the boredom though. This post has been edited by aiwotorimodose: Jan 31 2013, 16:58
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