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Jan 30 2013, 18:11
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unknownxz.
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QUOTE(pervdiz @ Jan 30 2013, 22:59)  Okay, thanks ! Do you think Exq Kev Breastplate of Deflection would be worth the run ? no This post has been edited by unknownxz.: Jan 30 2013, 18:23
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Jan 30 2013, 20:06
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janusi
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I kinda have trouble with good item worlds. I just can't last those 195 rounds without being really drained around round 150.
Other question that's been bothering me for a while: I often hit enemies for like 90% of their health, also proccing Bleeding Wound. Should I spend another turn defeating that enemy so it doesn't start hitting too hard, or do I just move on to the others and let Bleeding Wound finish it off?
And how do I prioritize which enemies to kill first? In early Arena matches I just go for whoever has the highest MP in order, but as the rounds go on and the number of monsters increases, I start off with the non-custom monsters (Manticore, etc...) since I know for a 100% that I can one shot those.
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Jan 30 2013, 20:11
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desert storm
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When fighting FSM with rapier offhand, what's more important balance or nimble?
If it helps, I'm thinking of using axe+rapier in heavy power.
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Jan 30 2013, 20:15
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Herp in your Derp
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Balance always the best. Although you'll want one with a decent chance of proc'ing & maintaining PA so you can get it to 0% physmit by the time you can stance frenzy.
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Jan 30 2013, 20:29
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desert storm
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QUOTE(Herp in your Derp @ Jan 30 2013, 20:15)  Balance always the best. Although you'll want one with a decent chance of proc'ing & maintaining PA so you can get it to 0% physmit by the time you can stance frenzy.
Oh, that might be an issue. My dual prof is 0, I'm just switching to dual for FSM. I normally run arenas with estoc.
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Jan 30 2013, 20:40
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Herp in your Derp
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Might as well continue with using your estoc then, at least until you get 100 dw prof from elsewhere. Just full up OC bar, stance cleave and repeat over once it recharges. Slower but should still be good enough. Use a holy infusion if you wish to speed things up. Frenzied blows will be where the majority of the damage comes from.
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Jan 30 2013, 20:42
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Lement
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pervdiz: IWing is costly, and something such as that isn't certainly worth it. If your armor is worth around a mil I'd advise to wait around a while. (Weapons don't need to be worth that much though, but nothing with value under 250k at least I'd say).
janusi: IDK. Bleed was nerfed for those situations, but you might take less turns if you let it finish them off. Melee shouldn't IW on low difficulties though - even if it is your main weapon, you can just use that time to get more money and hand the weapon to someone else to IW.
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Jan 30 2013, 21:24
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T_Starrk
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QUOTE(Lement @ Jan 30 2013, 09:42)  pervdiz: IWing is costly, and something such as that isn't certainly worth it.
Well it certainly costs a bit of stamina and time but it isn't very costly to get the first couple of levels. I can get the first 3 levels on any exquisite item for the cost of 16-17 stamina (less than a e-drink) and an hour of my time (30 minutes per BT run). But he's only level 66 so I'm assuming the best he can complete it on is easy. Which means it will cost him an e-drink and two runs to get the first level. But yeah, it's probably not worth it to do it with a wrong-suffix piece of kevlar which I'm sure he'll inevitably replace. Plus, you get the drops too. I almost always get an artifact per run or two. I also got my first legendary drop during an item world. So it's not like it's a complete loss just cause you don't get credits every round like arena. This post has been edited by T_Starrk: Jan 30 2013, 22:05
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Jan 30 2013, 22:00
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pervdiz
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Well yeah, I didn't even bothered to check how well (bad ?) I would fare because honestly, even for fine pieces on hard I'm so sloooow it hurts my brain. Now the loots are another story, but I don't have to complete the run to get them hehe (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Jan 30 2013, 22:07
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Slobber
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I'm of the opinion IW was designed (whether intended or not) as more of a high level hobby. To do it in a realistic manner (ie not 1000 runs of easy mode or something and a non low quality equip) requires the player to be 200+ at the least
Don't concern yourself with IW unless you really have nothing better to do.
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Jan 31 2013, 00:00
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TommySauce
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IW isn't that hard to do, it's just really time consuming, I just made http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=6c51ff88cc . It took me about 2 days and about 120 stamina on hard difficulty. Just make sure you have regen 2, at least 150 in supportive proficiency and be able to hold 10 godly potions. Also, never do IW when you have over 79 stamina, or else you will be losing stamina at a higher rate.
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Jan 31 2013, 00:23
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aloc1234
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Does difficult affect loot drop chance?
Also, is there anyway to increase chaos tokens drops? They were really easier in the past.
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Jan 31 2013, 00:57
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PK678353
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Sort of.
Higher difficulty increases the odds that an equip drop will be Tier 2 or 3 rather than 1 (Phase rather than Cotton, Shade rather than Leather). It also increases the PL Cap, and mobs with a PL over 500 add 1% drop chance for every 25 PL over 500. Mobs with better stats also have better drops (we think, but can't tell for sure without getting the source code).
As for Chaos Tokens, the Tokenizer perk does that. It's obscenely expensive, but whatever.
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Jan 31 2013, 02:00
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Lement
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T_Starrk: It is more as an issue that you have now compare is it worth trading the crystals for PXP - since other than depth bonus on equips that's pretty much the difference between the two. As for Iwing exqs...Even first level is probably going to cost more than a hath with the leftover exp in what you give up tbh - a bad trade for the majority of exquisites.
Slobber: Maybe that was the intention - disagree about the level though, since there's nothing truly high-impact at 200 other than ragnarok for dark mages. But I'm unsure how well the artifact uptrade compares to loss of equip values and stam when comparing low and high dif.
But given that IWing has to compete with gf, I'm more of the opinion that IWing is pre-crystarium side income to arenas, since high level players with it will get better results if they just do gf and have someone else to IW the equip.
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Jan 31 2013, 02:29
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T_Starrk
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QUOTE(Lement @ Jan 30 2013, 15:00)  T_Starrk: It is more as an issue that you have now compare is it worth trading the crystals for PXP - since other than depth bonus on equips that's pretty much the difference between the two. As for Iwing exqs...Even first level is probably going to cost more than a hath with the leftover exp in what you give up tbh - a bad trade for the majority of exquisites.
I don't have any of the crystal perks so it's not like I'm missing out on a huge income by doing item world instead of grindfest. Besides the financial reasons though, I like to item world my own equips. I guess you could say I find it more satisfying than grindfest because there's a finish with a reward at the end. Not to mention I just don't like to pay someone for something I can do myself. I guess I just don't look at my playing time in the view of "credits per hour". It's more just like me fucking around with different aspects of the game. Yeah, it's probably not the optimal way to spend my time financially, but I don't really care. Besides, one BT run can get the first 2 potencies on any equip. 30 minutes for 2 levels, it's worth it imo.
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Jan 31 2013, 02:47
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Nightwishman
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Just tried DW'n FSM on normal with a decent hollowed club of slaughter and a hollowed rapier of balance....got my ass handed to me. Looks like Mace is the only way for me to go...also can I get a 3-blood token refund (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) LOL. DW is awful.
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Jan 31 2013, 03:06
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Herp in your Derp
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If you had little to no DW proficiency, then it's your own fault.
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Jan 31 2013, 03:35
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T_Starrk
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QUOTE(Nightwishman @ Jan 30 2013, 15:47)  Just tried DW'n FSM on normal with a decent hollowed club of slaughter and a hollowed rapier of balance....got my ass handed to me. Looks like Mace is the only way for me to go...also can I get a 3-blood token refund (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) LOL. DW is awful. How dare ye insult my dual-wield! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) I can kill FSM in 250 moves with DW, a mace would take me over 600. Seriously, you must really suck at DW. DW is the fastest method for killing opponents in the Ring of Blood for melee. First of all, you should use an ethereal club, not a hallowed one. If it is hallowed, it either needs to be hollowforged or have a voidseeker shard on it. Using crushing damage against FSM is like hitting a concrete wall. Also, what is your DW prof? Do you have backstab? frenzied blows? Don't just half-ass it and say DW is awful. One you get frenzied you'll understand the greatness of dual-wield. I don't understand how you can even use a mace against FSM. Do you spam rending blow? It's so much better to have a rapier which can put FSM at 0% PMI the entire fight, that way you can use spirit stance too. This post has been edited by T_Starrk: Jan 31 2013, 03:40
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Jan 31 2013, 03:51
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Insania
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QUOTE(Nightwishman @ Jan 30 2013, 21:47)  Just tried DW'n FSM on normal with a decent hollowed club of slaughter and a hollowed rapier of balance....got my ass handed to me. Looks like Mace is the only way for me to go...also can I get a 3-blood token refund (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) LOL. DW is awful. no duel-wield is awesome @T_Shark nice duel wield set By the way, why do you use rapier of balance instead of slaugther?
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