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Jan 29 2013, 17:28
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HigherMakoto
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Is it worthwhile to level up a really beefy monster or to use those credits for better training?
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Jan 29 2013, 17:40
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desert storm
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QUOTE(Colman @ Jan 29 2013, 17:25)  I think you can kill IWBTH FSM with an ethereal axe + rapid pretty easy. In case they are not ethereal, use holy infusion also work.
On a side note, I don't have light armour so I'll be doing this in heavy and have 0 dual prof. Is this still feasible? Also, am I how badly am I under performing in arenas?
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Jan 29 2013, 17:41
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ChosenUno
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QUOTE(HigherMakoto @ Jan 29 2013, 22:28)  Is it worthwhile to level up a really beefy monster or to use those credits for better training?
Trainings.
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Jan 29 2013, 17:45
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Colman
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QUOTE(desert storm @ Jan 29 2013, 23:40)  On a side note, I don't have light armour so I'll be doing this in heavy and have 0 dual prof. Is this still feasible?
Also, am I how badly am I under performing in arenas?
For your information, I use DW + power armor set to kill FSM rcently with ~60 DW proficiency. In average, 2 godly mana pot + 1 spirit pot are need. I think you should be able to do so at your level. P.S: the first skill of DW is good. Its effect last for 100 turn. edit: typo This post has been edited by Colman: Jan 29 2013, 17:46
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Jan 29 2013, 17:46
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Mindflayer88
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QUOTE(desert storm @ Jan 29 2013, 18:40)  On a side note, I don't have light armour so I'll be doing this in heavy and have 0 dual prof. Is this still feasible?
Also, am I how badly am I under performing in arenas?
Apparently so, yes. It's just that much better against a single target, both offensively and defensively. Don't take my word for it, though. Hard to say, I am pretty sure I was doing better than that at your level, even after the initial despair at suddenly meeting Eila and co.
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Jan 29 2013, 17:48
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desert storm
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QUOTE(Colman @ Jan 29 2013, 17:45)  For your information, I use DW + power armor set to kill FSM rcently with ~60 DW proficiency. In average, 2 godly mana pot + 1 spirit pot are need. I think you should be able to do so at your level. P.S: the first skill of DW is good. Its effect last for 100 turn.
edit: typo
Thanks. So I'm using axe in main hand and rapier in offhand? Are there any particular stats I should be looking for in these weapons? Edit: QUOTE(Mindflayer88 @ Jan 29 2013, 17:46)  Apparently so, yes. It's just that much better against a single target, both offensively and defensively. Don't take my word for it, though. Hard to say, I am pretty sure I was doing better than that at your level, even after the initial despair at suddenly meeting Eila and co.
What difficulty should I aim to be doing tree on? Or, how many rounds should I be clearing on IWBTH. Getting to 10 rounds is already a lot to me (I try to keep all monsters weakened and silenced). This post has been edited by desert storm: Jan 29 2013, 17:50
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Jan 29 2013, 17:52
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Colman
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QUOTE(desert storm @ Jan 29 2013, 23:48)  Thanks. So I'm using axe in main hand and rapier in offhand? Are there any particular stats I should be looking for in these weapons?
Ethereal is good, fine+ with any suffix is alright. Other than that, if you can kill the FSM with cheap weapon, there is no reason to buy expensive Ex+ slaughter/balance weapons.
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Jan 29 2013, 18:17
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Mindflayer88
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QUOTE(desert storm @ Jan 29 2013, 18:48)  What difficulty should I aim to be doing tree on? Or, how many rounds should I be clearing on IWBTH. Getting to 10 rounds is already a lot to me (I try to keep all monsters weakened and silenced).
You should just slowly raise your difficulty from what it is now. If you find it's too taxing to play on a higher level, just keep playing like now and aim to buy better gear so you become stronger and thus able to manage on higher difficulties. Also expect to lower your difficulty as you progress through levels because you will encounter more high power level monsters. It happened to me, too. I used to be able to do Trio & the Tree at Battletoads using infusions and scrolls of shadow to boost my survivablity and damage, but at some point I just started taking too much damage and running out of SP and now it's not worth the risk anymore.
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Jan 29 2013, 18:19
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billyismad
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with this set of equipment what level should i attempt iwbth fsm at, i already beat it at normal staffhelmetbodyhandlegsfeet   edit: fixed links, added character, abilities and trainer info This post has been edited by billyismad: Jan 29 2013, 18:47
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Jan 29 2013, 18:24
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Mindflayer88
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QUOTE(billyismad @ Jan 29 2013, 19:19)  Those links don't work for me. But I don't see why you shouldn't be able to do do FSM at IWBTH with a full heimdall set. Just keep him debuffed all the time and it shouldn't be that hard.
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Jan 29 2013, 18:29
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desert storm
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QUOTE(Mindflayer88 @ Jan 29 2013, 18:17)  You should just slowly raise your difficulty from what it is now. If you find it's too taxing to play on a higher level, just keep playing like now and aim to buy better gear so you become stronger and thus able to manage on higher difficulties. Also expect to lower your difficulty as you progress through levels because you will encounter more high power level monsters. It happened to me, too. I used to be able to do Trio & the Tree at Battletoads using infusions and scrolls of shadow to boost my survivablity and damage, but at some point I just started taking too much damage and running out of SP and now it's not worth the risk anymore.
Just a couple more questions about play style, how often do you use focus to regain sp and what buffs/debuffs do you keep up?
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Jan 29 2013, 18:33
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Mindflayer88
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QUOTE(desert storm @ Jan 29 2013, 19:29)  Just a couple more questions about play style, how often do you use focus to regain sp and what buffs/debuffs do you keep up?
As little as possible, even debuffed monsters hit too hard to risk it. I am sure that's not as big a problem for heavy melee.
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Jan 29 2013, 18:36
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Herp in your Derp
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Focusing lowers any evade/block/parry/resist you have to 0% for that turn. It'll always hurt unless you enough pmi to back it up.
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Jan 29 2013, 19:27
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xmagus
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QUOTE(Herp in your Derp @ Jan 30 2013, 02:36)  Focusing lowers any evade/block/parry/resist you have to 0% for that turn. It'll always hurt unless you enough pmi to back it up.
Or your Action Speed is enough such that nobody else can act the turn you use it. Or there is only one idiot left on the field and it's been Stunned/Sleeping/Blinded. There are ways and means to do what you want done. But in terms of actual usefulness... Focus doesn't restore anywhere near enough mana per turn to make it worthwhile for a melee. I only get back 28 points of mana, and when Weaken (once of the cheaper spells around) costs nearly 40 MP on SS, you know it ain't gonna be good. Plus, how many mages have SP and OC Tanks up the wazoo to allow Focus to work to its full effect?
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Jan 29 2013, 20:02
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Herp in your Derp
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You're doing it wrong if you're only using it for a single turn. For example, schoolgirls have pitiful autoattack dmg so all that's required is a silence and with 250%+ oc, that's going to get about half of what a godly mana pot would return.
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Jan 29 2013, 20:07
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T_Starrk
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QUOTE(desert storm @ Jan 29 2013, 06:48)  Thanks. So I'm using axe in main hand and rapier in offhand? Are there any particular stats I should be looking for in these weapons?
For FSM make sure they are ethereal. Void damage will cut down the number of turns it takes by a third (he just has too much resistance to slashing, piercing, and crushing damage). Find a Axe of slaughter for the mainhand with good WD and a rapier of balance for the off-hand with good accuracy good proc percentage and duration. If you're just using the set for FSM a good slaughter rapier would work too, but again, look for one with a lot of turns on the proc so you have no problems keeping 3x PA up the whole fight. This post has been edited by T_Starrk: Jan 29 2013, 20:07
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Jan 29 2013, 20:19
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Draylof
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Just a quick clarification needed on Level 10 (i.e. MAX exp) weapon functionality:
If I have a Magnificent Axe of Slaughter, and when it gets to level 10, it'll have 2x Void strikes?
I've been reading the wiki on this topic, and for normal (i.e. non-elemental/ethereal) weapons all it says is that it gets Hollowforged (which changes the damage type to Void) and gets one additional Void strike. So if I'm reading this correctly, at level 10 it'll have 2x Void strikes?
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Jan 29 2013, 20:30
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Herp in your Derp
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Just a single void strike.
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Jan 29 2013, 20:38
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janusi
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So I've been slowly stocking up on the lowest level trophies lately because of the three 50+ round arena matches. What exactly should I do with them? Should I just use them all up or wait for a while and sell 'em all off here?
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Jan 29 2013, 21:00
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Lement
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Your call. I'd sell at reasonable if you have a shop to draw more clients.
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