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Jan 11 2013, 23:54
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4EverLost
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QUOTE(ahenayau @ Jan 11 2013, 11:01)  want to ask , is IWBTH hourlies have a good drop rate equipment ??? ( exq , mag , leg )
I always get shit, can't even recall the last time I saved a drop from it.
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Jan 12 2013, 00:09
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Bonebuster
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QUOTE(4EverLost @ Jan 11 2013, 22:54)  I always get shit, can't even recall the last time I saved a drop from it.
So true I get much better drops at the arena even if its on a lower difficulty.(At least I have the feeling that it this way) This post has been edited by Bonebuster: Jan 12 2013, 01:33
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Jan 12 2013, 01:57
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nobody_xxx
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strange , I didn't find any random encounter from last midnight to this morning (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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Jan 12 2013, 02:32
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fishinsea
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QUOTE(ahenayau @ Jan 11 2013, 18:57)  strange , I didn't find any random encounter from last midnight to this morning (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Could you have been asleep? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) In seriousness, were you browsing the gallery?
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Jan 12 2013, 03:03
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YinX
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- I am currently specializing as an Ice Mage. Is Ice as good as things like Holy or should I switch?
- As a mage, should I make my Dexterity and Strength extremely low to buff other stats?
- I have never really used Spirit Stance and Overcharge and Spirit points. As a mage, is that of any importance for me?
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Jan 12 2013, 03:24
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t15
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QUOTE(YinX @ Jan 12 2013, 10:03)  - As a mage, should I make my Dexterity and Strength extremely low to buff other stats?
For recomended stat, please read advice page at wikiQUOTE(YinX @ Jan 12 2013, 10:03)  - I have never really used Spirit Stance and Overcharge and Spirit points. As a mage, is that of any importance for me?
Overcharge isn't important, same with spirit stance. But Spirit Tank is important after you get Spark of Life, as SoL use spirit to save you from afterlife. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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Jan 12 2013, 03:57
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Apocalypse Horsemen
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When turning in trophies at The Shrine, does a player's level play a part in the quality of the item awarded? From what I've read based on the EHWiki Shrine page, it only mentions a roll & the quality of the trophy itself. How is this roll determined? As these trophies can now be traded on the Bazaar & forums, should I put my lower quality up for trade, or just turn them in to the Shrine? (in the hope of getting a better quality item from Snowflake & perhaps then trade it off later) QUOTE Give the player a roll on the equipment loot table. Players can choose between the seven major types of equipment (1-Handed, 2-Handed, Staff, Shield, Cloth armor, Light armor, and Heavy armor). The rarity of the trophy determines how large the bonus to the equipment roll is.
Trophies are hierarchically ranked into 4 tiers:
The four Boss monster trophies Konata's trophy (Lock of Blue Hair) The remaining three Legendary-class monster trophies (Mikuru, Asakura, Yuki) The God-class monster trophies (Real Life, Invisible Pink Unicorn, Flying Spaghetti Monster, and Yggdrasil). Have a ~2-4% chance of generating "Magnificent" or "Legendary" equipment.
The special ticket items from the monthly Toplists also fall within these four tiers, depending on their loot quality and tier bonuses. (e.g. Platinum Ticket is the same as Noodly Appendage.)
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Jan 12 2013, 04:08
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Temchy
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QUOTE(Apocalypse Horsemen @ Jan 12 2013, 02:57)  How is this roll determined? The same way a dice roll is determined. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Well, you could argue about pseudo and true rng but.. let's keep it at it's random. Lower quality trophies aren't exactly sought after I think, even then you'd probably get no more than 300c as opposed to the 200c from the bazar or similar values if you just shrine them all. It mostly comes down to whether you want to gamble or not.
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Jan 12 2013, 04:14
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4EverLost
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QUOTE(Temchy @ Jan 12 2013, 02:08)  The same way a dice roll is determined. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Well, you could argue about pseudo and true rng but.. let's keep it at it's random. Lower quality trophies aren't exactly sought after I think, even then you'd probably get no more than 300c as opposed to the 200c from the bazar or similar values if you just shrine them all. It mostly comes down to whether you want to gamble or not. I did this a while ago and was hopping for more then what I got in equipment. But I tried different types to see what I could get when i sold off the junk. ManBearPig Tail - 633 +88346 Sold 634 equipment pieces. (Heavy) Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch - 617 +117263 Sold 615 equipment pieces. (Staffs) Mithra's Flower - 642 +63057 Sold 644 equipment pieces. (Light) Dalek Voicebox - 641 +106401 Sold 594 equipment pieces. (staffs) Lock of Blue Hair - 261 +39674 Sold 242 equipment pieces. Bunny-Girl Costume - 263 +83943 Sold 259 equipment pieces. (2HD) Hinamatsuri Doll - 252 +70109 Sold 252 equipment pieces. all you need is 1-2 pieces to cover the cost of the junk.
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Jan 12 2013, 04:19
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PK678353
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QUOTE(YinX @ Jan 11 2013, 21:03)  - I am currently specializing as an Ice Mage. Is Ice as good as things like Holy or should I switch?
- As a mage, should I make my Dexterity and Strength extremely low to buff other stats?
- I have never really used Spirit Stance and Overcharge and Spirit points. As a mage, is that of any importance for me?
Keep your STR about say 15-20 points behind your END, and DEX another 5 points behind that, and keep your END about even with your WIS (yeah, END is important). Spirit Stance and Overcharge are mostly to be ignored until you're ETing a lot of targets (waaaay later). They're mostly a melee thing. Spirit Points are VERY important once you hit 100 for Spark of Life and then 190 for Spirit Shield (glorious Spirit Shield, no more 4k+ crits to the face!). Regarding Ice: Look at my signature. That Niflheim gear is enough to consistently run Trio and the Tree on Hell easily or Nintendo with a bit of random bullshit at my level. It cost about 2.5 million credits. That Fenrir would be enough to do the same, were my profs worth shit. It cost about 400k credits. Unless you are dedicated to Ice in some way, start gathering Heimdall shit together. Holy/Dark is better than Elemental on a straight mechanical level (2-spell cycle, no monsters natively resist both except Elementals). That said, I'm kind of stubborn about my Nif set. Little bit. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) You'll really want to be switching about either 90 or 150, when Tier 3 Holy and Dark (respectively) become availablle. Purge alone is trollable by Celestials, Mechs and some Elementals. This post has been edited by PK678353: Jan 12 2013, 04:23
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Jan 12 2013, 05:00
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Apocalypse Horsemen
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QUOTE(4EverLost @ Jan 12 2013, 10:14)  I did this a while ago and was hopping for more then what I got in equipment. But I tried different types to see what I could get when i sold off the junk.
ManBearPig Tail - 633 +88346 Sold 634 equipment pieces. (Heavy) Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch - 617 +117263 Sold 615 equipment pieces. (Staffs) Mithra's Flower - 642 +63057 Sold 644 equipment pieces. (Light) Dalek Voicebox - 641 +106401 Sold 594 equipment pieces. (staffs) Lock of Blue Hair - 261 +39674 Sold 242 equipment pieces. Bunny-Girl Costume - 263 +83943 Sold 259 equipment pieces. (2HD) Hinamatsuri Doll - 252 +70109 Sold 252 equipment pieces.
all you need is 1-2 pieces to cover the cost of the junk.
Using your total equipment sold & if the trophies were directly traded back, would have returned 849,700 C. Are the figures (highlighted in red) the credits returned, after the trophies were shrined & sold back to the bazaar? (total 568,793 C) If that is so, it's a huge difference if all the trophies were directly traded back to bazaar. (varience of 280,907 C) That's actually a lot of credits.
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Jan 12 2013, 05:13
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holerider
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QUOTE(Apocalypse Horsemen @ Jan 12 2013, 11:00)  Using your total equipment sold & if the trophies were directly traded back, would have returned 849,700 C.
Are the figures (highlighted in red) the credits returned, after the trophies were shrined & sold back to the bazaar? (total 568,793 C)
If that is so, it's a huge difference if all the trophies were directly traded back to bazaar. (varience of 280,907 C)
That's actually a lot of credits.
And was this before or after the most recent bazaar price change?
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Jan 12 2013, 05:45
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4EverLost
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QUOTE(Apocalypse Horsemen @ Jan 12 2013, 03:00)  Using your total equipment sold & if the trophies were directly traded back, would have returned 849,700 C.
Are the figures (highlighted in red) the credits returned, after the trophies were shrined & sold back to the bazaar? (total 568,793 C)
If that is so, it's a huge difference if all the trophies were directly traded back to bazaar. (varience of 280,907 C)
That's actually a lot of credits.
280k isn't a lot and the few things I saved are worth more then that. I could have saved more and put them in a shop (but i'm lazy) or I could have salvaged a lot of it for materials and made up the difference and then some. QUOTE(holerider @ Jan 12 2013, 03:13)  And was this before or after the most recent bazaar price change?
I think i did that a day or 2 after that patch.
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Jan 12 2013, 06:19
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n125
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I cleaned out about 400 pieces of equipment from my inventory (I have had a problem with hording) a day before the recent credit patch. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)
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Jan 12 2013, 06:34
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4EverLost
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QUOTE(n125 @ Jan 12 2013, 04:19)  I cleaned out about 400 pieces of equipment from my inventory (I have had a problem with hording) a day before the recent credit patch. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) boo, (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) I was going to save the trophies until i had 1000 of each then dump them all but with the change in prices I tossed them all + about 150-200 items I was holding. The sad thing is I'm still at ~850 equipment, I need a horders hath perk (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Jan 12 2013, 06:48
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4EverLost
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QUOTE(Jack Nicholson @ Jan 12 2013, 04:43)  On the trophies page of ehwiki, what does "Tier Multiplier" mean? http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Trophies#Trophieshigher chance to get a tier 3 item. plate, shield, power or leather, kevlar, shade
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Jan 12 2013, 06:50
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Jack Nicholson
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QUOTE(4EverLost @ Jan 12 2013, 06:48)  higher chance to get a tier 3 item. plate, shield, power or leather, kevlar, shade
k thanks
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