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post Jan 11 2013, 15:03
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QUOTE(terragaia @ Jan 11 2013, 18:35) *

can anyone help me with suggestions or feedback? there are 4 pictures attached

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Oh, your proficiency very high!!

This is mine, It's very low T^T (Maybe, because i play in IWBTH only ?)
Equipment proficiency
One-handed
0.00
Two-handed
13.54
Dual wielding
27.68
Staff
0.00
Cloth armor
0.00
Light armor
19.09
Heavy armor
4.62

Magic proficiency
Elemental
0.00
Divine
0.00
Forbidden
0.00
Spiritual
0
Deprecating
14.49
Supportive
22.42
Curative
18.35


Maybe, i need to training Assimilator (+10% Proficiency Gain) ?

Anyone suggest me please...
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post Jan 11 2013, 15:06
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QUOTE(Evil Scorpio @ Jan 11 2013, 09:39) *

Check your MoogleMail, I've sent you a couple of things, maybe it'll be useful. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)



ty! everyone is so kind here (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jan 11 2013, 15:10
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QUOTE(unknownxz. @ Jan 11 2013, 21:03) *

Oh, your proficiency very high!!
This is mine, It's very low T^T (Maybe, because i play in IWBTH only ?)
Maybe, i need to training Assimilator (+10% Proficiency Gain) ?
Anyone suggest me please...


You can, but you don't need to. As long as it's above 50% of your level, that should be fine. Assimilator is good, but at the same time your prof is going to catch up when your leveling speed starts to slow down.

QUOTE(terragaia @ Jan 11 2013, 21:06) *

ty! everyone is so kind here (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


Evil_Scorpio is the kindest retarded here (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jan 11 2013, 15:10
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QUOTE(varst @ Jan 11 2013, 09:59) *

Well, another good guide for new players.

Utilize your potions. They're meant to be used, not for collection.



yes, i use mana pot frequently for skills, have i done anything wrong in distributing my ability points??


and about this

Weapons - Go into a high difficulty crude equipment's Item World and go for as long as you can.

is there any reasons why it must be crude equipments item world? i usually complete all arena everyday and do the hourly encounters, i dont usually farm elsewhere because it takes longer time to do so. Is the difference very high between following that instruction with doing arena or anything else in increasing proficiency?
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post Jan 11 2013, 15:19
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QUOTE(terragaia @ Jan 11 2013, 21:10) *

yes, i use mana pot frequently for skills, have i done anything wrong in distributing my ability points??
and about this

Weapons - Go into a high difficulty crude equipment's Item World and go for as long as you can.

is there any reasons why it must be crude equipments item world? i usually complete all arena everyday and do the hourly encounters, i dont usually farm elsewhere because it takes longer time to do so. Is the difference very high between following that instruction with doing arena or anything else in increasing proficiency?


Well, you have 120 ability points. Your distribution is fine, but you can get more ability boost training (till around 50/100) so you can have 30+ points to put into your SP and OC tanks. OC tank is essential if you incorporate skill into your strategy, since the with more OC when you use the skill, the more damage you can deal.

Crude IW is for prof grinding because of the low monster damage. I don't think you need to grind for DW/light armor prof at this moment, but if you really have too much time after playing all those arenas and grindfests, you can. And the monster damage difference is significant, I can promise.

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post Jan 11 2013, 15:21
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QUOTE(terragaia @ Jan 11 2013, 22:10) *

Weapons - Go into a high difficulty crude equipment's Item World and go for as long as you can.

is there any reasons why it must be crude equipments item world? i usually complete all arena everyday and do the hourly encounters, i dont usually farm elsewhere because it takes longer time to do so. Is the difference very high between following that instruction with doing arena or anything else in increasing proficiency?

Because on crude equipment they won't hit you hard enough to cause you dead on first round (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) .
Monsters on IWBTH crude equipment have shitload of HP like any other IWBTH, but they have lower damage than other IWBTH monster on arena/grindfest/hourly.

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QUOTE(unknownxz. @ Jan 11 2013, 22:03) *

Oh, your proficiency very high!!
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Maybe, i need to training Assimilator (+10% Proficiency Gain) ?

Anyone suggest me please...

Maybe you can begin with tell us your way to play HV.
Did you only play hourly battle? Or your equipment so godly you can IWBTH all your arena on your level?
If you only play hourly, do arena on difficulty that's comfortable for you

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post Jan 11 2013, 15:33
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QUOTE(varst @ Jan 11 2013, 10:19) *

Well, you have 120 ability points. Your distribution is fine, but you can get more ability boost training (till around 50/100) so you can have 30+ points to put into your SP and OC tanks. OC tank is essential if you incorporate skill into your strategy, since the with more OC when you use the skill, the more damage you can deal.

Crude IW is for prof grinding because of the low monster damage. I don't think you need to grind for DW/light armor prof at this moment, but if you really have too much time after playing all those arenas and grindfests, you can. And the monster damage difference is significant, I can promise.



is grindfest important? i tried several time when i was still lvl 40. and 60, they barely drop anything, very low exp and credits as well to boot....
or this changes as lvl goes up?
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post Jan 11 2013, 15:45
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QUOTE(terragaia @ Jan 11 2013, 22:33) *

is grindfest important? i tried several time when i was still lvl 40. and 60, they barely drop anything, very low exp and credits as well to boot....
or this changes as lvl goes up?

Nope, not important if you don't plan to battle after finish all your arena.
And for current version, there is none credit drop at all on grindfest.
They are only important for people that have time and strong enough to have above 200 rounds battle (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Jan 11 2013, 16:13
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QUOTE(varst @ Jan 11 2013, 20:10) *

You can, but you don't need to. As long as it's above 50% of your level, that should be fine. Assimilator is good, but at the same time your prof is going to catch up when your leveling speed starts to slow down.


but, now my DW prof is about 20% of my lvl T^T.
Thank you for advice (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

QUOTE(t15 @ Jan 11 2013, 20:21) *

Maybe you can begin with tell us your way to play HV.
Did you only play hourly battle? Or your equipment so godly you can IWBTH all your arena on your level?
If you only play hourly, do arena on difficulty that's comfortable for you

Ahh sorry, my equipment is little suck but i used scroll and support skill for survive in IWBTH.
And yes I did only play hourly battle in IWBTH, and clear arena 1-7 in IWBTH and other in lower difficulty.
Should i do more grindfest ?


And thanks for all advices (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jan 11 2013, 16:50
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QUOTE(unknownxz. @ Jan 11 2013, 23:13) *

but, now my DW prof is about 20% of my lvl T^T.
Thank you for advice (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Ahh sorry, my equipment is little suck but i used scroll and support skill for survive in IWBTH.
And yes I did only play hourly battle in IWBTH, and clear arena 1-7 in IWBTH and other in lower difficulty.
Should i do more grindfest ?
And thanks for all advices (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

For your arena beside IWBTH, I hope you don't force yourself by using scroll&infusion.
For DW light armour(?), you must actively use curative(regen) and supportive spells so your proficiency can increase.(Scroll&infussion addict is fine, but you will not able to save up credit. Especially when we aren't hath baron)
Your proficiency will someday catch up if you finish all your arena everyday.
Grindfest is optional, you can do it if you want.
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post Jan 11 2013, 18:10
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What are your stance on DW vs 2H ?
I read a lot that DW is better against bosses, but what about standard rounds without bosses ?

futhermore is an estoc really that important for 2H or can Rending Blow be enough ?
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post Jan 11 2013, 18:30
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QUOTE(PK678353 @ Jan 11 2013, 16:51) *

1. Not necessarily. However, dumping those points into SP may be useful if you don't have that maxed.
2. Soul Harvest may be useful to you. It's usually more associated with melees using the proc to get SP back, but it certainly works to kill Elementals. Thing is, MM does that pretty well too.
3. Poison is obsolete once you have Silence. Before Curse Weaving, you couldn't Weaken and Silence an enemy (IIRC), so Poison slowed down the enemy's MP/SP regen, making it a far worse Silence. Now, we just Weaken/Silence and don't worry about it. Now, Poison just reduces your odds of landing your other, more important debuffs thanks to Curse Weaving (and with your low Deprecating, you'll have a very hard time getting multiple debuffs to stick in the first place).
4. Imperil is a a great spell for Elemental Mages. It's decent for Holy/Dark. It reduces PMI, MMI and Elemental Mitigations by 25%. So, all you get is the 25% MMI reduction (which is still useful).


Thanks.

BTW, just how important is the Staff's proficiency to a mage? My Staff / Cloth profs are:
Staff - 19.72
Cloth armor - 26.68
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post Jan 11 2013, 18:34
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QUOTE(Wyti @ Jan 11 2013, 20:10) *

What are your stance on DW vs 2H ?
I read a lot that DW is better against bosses, but what about standard rounds without bosses ?

futhermore is an estoc really that important for 2H or can Rending Blow be enough ?

DW is good for RoB and schoolgirl maraphons. 2H is better for everything else, and estoc is the best 2H weapon atm because of the Penetrated Armor. Before the lvl200 or so its advantage to maces and scythes is less significant. After that...well, one day you'll see for yourself.
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post Jan 11 2013, 18:48
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Speaking of soul harvest, does it still work well at 0 prof for the purpose of regaining sp or would I have to level up divine & forbidden?
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post Jan 11 2013, 18:49
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Speaking of soul harvest, does it still work well at 0 prof for the purpose of regaining sp or would I have to level up divine & forbidden?


It's constant no matter your profs.
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post Jan 11 2013, 19:44
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So how long do

Snowflake and the moogles are migrating battle states. Check back later.

last?
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post Jan 11 2013, 19:48
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Patient, maybe a few minutes or maybe a few hour.
And say goodbye to stamina regen to whoever in the middle of battle
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QUOTE(t15 @ Jan 11 2013, 17:48) *

And say goodbye to stamina regen to whoever in the middle of battle


More fun for all of the enchantments I currently have on slowly ticking away.

Edit: Not actually complaining, by the way, just saying that stamina regen is way less impacted by short down time.

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QUOTE(HDMI009 @ Jan 11 2013, 17:30) *

BTW, just how important is the Staff's proficiency to a mage? My Staff / Cloth profs are:
Staff - 19.72
Cloth armor - 26.68

That depends entirely on your level and what equipment you have. Cloth will start catching up anyway sooner or later, just because it'll take longer and longer to level up. Staff will be worth grinding once it takes you more time to grind the credits you need to upgrade your equipment for a similar increase in damage as you can gain through staff proficiency than the time it'd take you to grind your proficiency up to like 2/3 of your level. Basically, don't worry about it as long as you have equipment that can be improved by spending less than a million or so.
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post Jan 11 2013, 20:50
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QUOTE(Thot @ Jan 12 2013, 02:24) *

That depends entirely on your level and what equipment you have. Cloth will start catching up anyway sooner or later, just because it'll take longer and longer to level up. Staff will be worth grinding once it takes you more time to grind the credits you need to upgrade your equipment for a similar increase in damage as you can gain through staff proficiency than the time it'd take you to grind your proficiency up to like 2/3 of your level. Basically, don't worry about it as long as you have equipment that can be improved by spending less than a million or so.



Thanks again for all your help & advice. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Off to grinding I shall go. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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