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Jan 10 2013, 18:25
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Bonebuster
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How close to the current level does the prof of 2H, Heavy armor, deprecating, supporative, currative,
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Jan 10 2013, 18:51
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KuroKirito
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Hey guys I wanna have an advice how to build a heavy "off Tank".....what attributes & abilities should I train more than others and what is the best weapon choice? Primary I want to sustain longer in the Grindfest to get more EXP....my highest round so far was about 20 with the usage of average health and mana potions. Secondary I want to clear the arena without problems. Here a few pics of all stats: Attributes  ----------------------------- Abilities  ------------------------------ Weapon slot 1  ------------------------------ Weapon slot 2  I am quite new to the game and don`t know whats important yet....I `ve only read the articles on the wiki and trained what was "recommended" in the abilities tree....for the attributes I picked Strenght first, then equaly Endurance and Dexterity.....even though the guide advice to balance all stats before Lvl. 50 I know that I want to be a melee...so I made that choice....I don`t know how to train more efficiently, so I ask you guys (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif). Also I dont have so much Credits atm and I think if I clear the arena till Lvl. 50 I will get about 2k credits a day...which is not much, so I cant afford expensive weapons so soon (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif). For the Trainer I pick Adept learner and Ability boost....I have also one point in Archaelogist for more Artifact drops ^^. Thanks for all advices (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif). Greez Kuro
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Jan 10 2013, 19:02
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Evil Scorpio
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QUOTE(KuroKirito @ Jan 10 2013, 20:51)  Hey guys I wanna have an advice how to build a heavy "off Tank".....what attributes & abilities should I train more than others and what is the best weapon choice? Primary I want to sustain longer in the Grindfest to get more EXP....my highest round so far was about 20 with the usage of average health and mana potions. Secondary I want to clear the arena without problems. *EQUIPMENT SCREENS* I am quite new to the game and don`t know whats important yet....I `ve only read the articles on the wiki and trained what was "recommended" in the abilities tree....for the attributes I picked Strenght first, then equaly Endurance and Dexterity.....even though the guide advice to balance all stats before Lvl. 50 I know that I want to be a melee...so I made that choice....I don`t know how to train more efficiently, so I ask you guys (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif). Also I dont have so much Credits atm and I think if I clear the arena till Lvl. 50 I will get about 2k credits a day...which is not much, so I cant afford expensive weapons so soon (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif). For the Trainer I pick Adept learner and Ability boost....I have also one point in Archaelogist for more Artifact drops ^^. Thanks for all advices (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif). Greez Kuro Equipment... Oh, my poor eyes... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) Check your MoogleMail, I've sent you some stuff, maybe it'll be useful. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) If you don't know about MoogleMail - read about it here. And never mix Cloth, Light and Heavy armor together - you lose your proficiency bonuses. This post has been edited by Evil Scorpio: Jan 10 2013, 19:03
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Jan 10 2013, 19:19
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varst
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QUOTE(KuroKirito @ Jan 11 2013, 00:51)  Thanks for all advices (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif). Greez Kuro Well, try those equips first (which should give you significant boost. A few more advices - Well, your main target is arenas. Just a reminder. Try the highest difficulty which you can sustain. - Bring more mana potions into battle. Health potions are good for a few more levels only; basically, before you get regen. - Pick more WIS (~level) as it affects the amount of mana and mana regen rate. - As for training, you can focus on leveling for now. Put your ability points (AP) into HP/MP/SP/OC tanks and spells, leave the EXP tank out, and keep training adept learner and ability boost till about 125-150 and 50.
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Jan 10 2013, 19:24
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arialinnoc
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5 1 You crit President Aria Pokoteng for 7022 void damage. 4 5 President Aria Pokoteng misses the attack against you. 4 4 You parry the attack from President Aria Pokoteng. 4 3 You gain 0.01 points of supportive magic proficiency.4 2 Clow Reed has been defeated. 4 1 You hit Clow Reed for 14445 void damage. Why I gain magic prof. since I'm not cast any spell (just normal attack)? Or it's because innate arcana spell? Got it. Thanks for reply (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) This post has been edited by arialinnoc: Jan 10 2013, 19:36
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Jan 10 2013, 19:29
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varst
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QUOTE(arialinnoc @ Jan 11 2013, 01:24)  it's because innate arcana
This
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Jan 10 2013, 19:40
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KuroKirito
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QUOTE(Evil Scorpio @ Jan 10 2013, 18:02)  Equipment... Oh, my poor eyes... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) Check your MoogleMail, I've sent you some stuff, maybe it'll be useful. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) If you don't know about MoogleMail - read about it here. And never mix Cloth, Light and Heavy armor together - you lose your proficiency bonuses. Thanks for all the gifts....feels like christmas <3. I`ve read about the proficiency bonuses but though it would not make that much of a difference....and also I haven`t the credits so far to adjust the equipment. QUOTE(varst @ Jan 10 2013, 18:19)  Well, try those equips first (which should give you significant boost. A few more advices
- Well, your main target is arenas. Just a reminder. Try the highest difficulty which you can sustain. - Bring more mana potions into battle. Health potions are good for a few more levels only; basically, before you get regen. - Pick more WIS (~level) as it affects the amount of mana and mana regen rate. - As for training, you can focus on leveling for now. Put your ability points (AP) into HP/MP/SP/OC tanks and spells, leave the EXP tank out, and keep training adept learner and ability boost till about 125-150 and 50.
Thank you all for the advices (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif). Should I train Agility and Intelligence at all? On wiki the priority for Agility is Mid-High....I wasn`t sure if I really should train it, because it affects only the evade, action speed and attack crit chance. And should be Strengh, Dexterity and Endurance on the same lvl. in the attributes (like all 50)?
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Jan 10 2013, 19:50
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HigherMakoto
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Weird, I've gotten Superior Estocs of Slaughter from my last three appendages.
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Jan 10 2013, 19:55
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unknownxz.
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QUOTE(KuroKirito @ Jan 10 2013, 23:51)  I am quite new to the game and don`t know whats important yet....I `ve only read the articles on the wiki and trained what was "recommended" in the abilities tree....for the attributes I picked Strenght first, then equaly Endurance and Dexterity.....even though the guide advice to balance all stats before Lvl. 50 I know that I want to be a melee...so I made that choice....I don`t know how to train more efficiently, so I ask you guys (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif). Also I dont have so much Credits atm and I think if I clear the arena till Lvl. 50 I will get about 2k credits a day...which is not much, so I cant afford expensive weapons so soon (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif). For the Trainer I pick Adept learner and Ability boost....I have also one point in Archaelogist for more Artifact drops ^^. Thanks for all advices (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif). Greez Kuro Hi, I am new here too , i just play a week ago and this is my advice(don't trust this much, it's may be wrong) : -Ability, you no need SP,OC that much yet(you will need it soon), you should max exp bonus for leveling(reset cost very cheap) -set your alarm clock to wakes every hour for encounter in IWBTH mode (Maybe, It's fastest way for leveling) -don't waste your stamina in normal mode, you should play higher difficulty for better exp and credit -keep your stamina 80+ (bonus 50%exp/credit, inflict 25%more dmg) - last kirito must use DW for the full power (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) And everyone please give me advice too ^^ (my english is very weak so i used 20 min for type this (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) ) This post has been edited by unknownxz.: Jan 10 2013, 20:23
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Jan 10 2013, 19:56
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varst
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QUOTE(KuroKirito @ Jan 11 2013, 01:40)  I`ve read about the proficiency bonuses but though it would not make that much of a difference....and also I haven`t the credits so far to adjust the equipment. Should I train Agility and Intelligence at all? On wiki the priority for Agility is Mid-High....I wasn`t sure if I really should train it, because it affects only the evade, action speed and attack crit chance. And should be Strengh, Dexterity and Endurance on the same lvl. in the attributes (like all 50)?
- The prof bonus may not be much at your level, but it's still better to stick with a style starting from lower level. - The easiest way is to keep anything but INT balanced and INT at about 80% of the amount of WIS. The stat points from your equip would be enough to shift your total stat to your preferred style, so there's less incentive to unbalance the stat you can control.
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Jan 10 2013, 20:14
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Bonebuster
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bäh because of these big screenshot he made my post get lost.^^ So once again How close to the current level does the prof of 2H, Heavy armor, deprecating, supporative, currative, has to be? I know it was already posted somewhere but I just cant find it (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif). I just want to recheck if my prof are fine. This post has been edited by Bonebuster: Jan 10 2013, 20:15
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Jan 10 2013, 20:14
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Evil Scorpio
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QUOTE(KuroKirito @ Jan 10 2013, 21:40)  Thanks for all the gifts....feels like christmas <3. I`ve read about the proficiency bonuses but though it would not make that much of a difference....and also I haven`t the credits so far to adjust the equipment.
You can adjust it now, I've sent you a full Heavy set. :3
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Jan 10 2013, 20:19
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varst
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QUOTE(Bonebuster @ Jan 11 2013, 02:14)  How close to the current level does the prof of 2H,Heavy armor,deprecating,supportive,curative, has to be?
Anything from 50%-75% should be enough. Those things will catch up naturally at higher level.
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Jan 10 2013, 21:32
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holerider
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QUOTE(lrgendjemand @ Jan 11 2013, 03:07)  Just a quick question about adopt-a-server and credits Does it generate "at least 2000 gp" like written here https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showt...=adopt+a+serveror 3000-4000 credits in hentaiverse http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Adopt-A-Server? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) I don't know the exact math, but I'd think the content of the post is outdated, just by the following sentence "[5 slots] will actually earn 15 hath a day instead of the normal maximum of 5 per client)." I think the maximum per client is way past 5 per day, as I'm getting around 10-12 a day, and the maximum is set at 14 I think? But I'm not sure if there is any Hath accumulating difference from the H@H ran on those servers than those of mine. but I think I get around 100K GPs per day, if GPs are equal to the files served ( I think? ), and the GP to credits ratio is 10:1 then, I would think it's probably closer to couple thousand of credits per day than the 2000GPs as stated. This post has been edited by holerider: Jan 10 2013, 21:49
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Jan 11 2013, 03:00
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mastaninja
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a few questions, how useful are credits past level 100-150 really im not even lv 50 yet and i have a set of average or fine power armor and a exquisite estoc of slaughter, once i get a ethereal weapon i wont really need to spend any more money for like 100 levels, is it really worth it to pay alot of money for maxed gear
i have a question about training, will things continue to train even if you dont have internet connection, because i have to go to a library to get mine, ive never trained before because of this, i suppose thats why i have so many extra credits
is 2h worth it vs dwing, it seems you can get really good one handed weapons on the super cheap, are there certain situations where dw is better
should i have a second set of heavy armor thats only focused on tanking or is just some average power armor okay until i get high level my physical mitigation atm is 40%
also should i keep haste up or is just protection fine, without auto cast, is it worth it to keep up more than 1 or 2 buffs? at what level should i start weakening everything and not just keep up protection and use cure
This post has been edited by mastaninja: Jan 11 2013, 03:06
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Jan 11 2013, 03:06
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Arxdewn
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Better stuff costs exponentially more, and due to how percents work, its at least geometrically stronger. If you don't want new gear, you don't have to buy it, but most people do. Training continues when you aren't playing regardless.
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Jan 11 2013, 03:10
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mastaninja
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QUOTE(Arxdewn @ Jan 11 2013, 03:06)  Better stuff costs exponentially more, and due to how percents work, its at least geometrically stronger. If you don't want new gear, you don't have to buy it, but most people do. Training continues when you aren't playing regardless.
so i dont have to have internet to train? thats great, i suppose my next question is what should i train and in what order
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Jan 11 2013, 03:11
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PK678353
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Training continues no matter what you're doing. You put it in and X hours later it's done. You want Adept Learner and Ability Boost and the 4 drop trainings, mostly.
2H and DW both have their perks. 2H is better for larger arenas where there are plenty of mobs to bash and the Domino Strikes can get full damage most of the time. DW is better for smaller numbers of tougher monsters, like the first few arenas (where it's 1-2 mobs a round and 2H can't do full damage) and the Level 220+ arenas (where you fight bosses every round).
Multiple sets of armor are something that people tend to accumulate over time. For example, I have a Niflheim set, a Fenrir set and a Heavy Armor set. If I was Heavy Melee primary instead of Mage primary, I would probably have separate Heavy Melee sets for low difficulty (more damage, less mitigation, Scythe for more damage) and high difficulty (slightly more mitigation, Estoc for PA).
This post has been edited by PK678353: Jan 11 2013, 03:13
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Jan 11 2013, 03:14
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fishinsea
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If you want to just play casually, there's no reason to spend millions on godly equips. Training should prioritize adept learner and ability boost for now, and maybe a few levels of scavenger.
Is the entire power system gonna be removed or just karma?
This post has been edited by fishinsea: Jan 11 2013, 03:15
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