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post Jan 7 2013, 03:28
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QUOTE(LiekZomg @ Jan 6 2013, 16:23) *

Well I finally got my first Magnificent item: Magnificent Buckler of Protection

Is this as horrible as I think it is? Do people even use Bucklers?


Yes, it's horrible (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) . I had a similar one for months in my shop for 20k, never sold, I had to salvage it. No one buys bucklers unless they are high MC battlecaster ones or legendary barrier ones with high block.
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post Jan 7 2013, 03:34
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QUOTE(T_Starrk @ Jan 7 2013, 09:28) *

Yes, it's horrible (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) . I had a similar one for months in my shop for 20k, never sold, I had to salvage it. No one buys bucklers unless they are high MC battlecaster ones or legendary barrier ones with high block.

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Ohwell, if I start at the bottom then things can only get better (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

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post Jan 7 2013, 05:58
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How much should a melee build invest in overcharge? My maximum is 160 right now. Been doing well with only a superior mace of slaughter just hacking away, but just barely have enough for a full combo.
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post Jan 7 2013, 06:25
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QUOTE(kramerica @ Jan 7 2013, 10:58) *

How much should a melee build invest in overcharge? My maximum is 160 right now. Been doing well with only a superior mace of slaughter just hacking away, but just barely have enough for a full combo.


As much as possible.
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post Jan 7 2013, 06:37
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I pretty much just want to do hourlies on IWTBH, but i get alpha'd every time I try. Same happens to me about half the time on BT and occasionally on Nintendo, which is the level I've settled on for hourlies. Is there anything I can do or do I just need to wait till I can get Spark of Life or something?
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post Jan 7 2013, 06:42
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I don't think mage can do IWBTH without spark of life? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Jan 7 2013, 06:44
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QUOTE(vash50000000 @ Jan 7 2013, 05:37) *
I pretty much just want to do hourlies on IWTBH, but i get alpha'd every time I try. Same happens to me about half the time on BT and occasionally on Nintendo, which is the level I've settled on for hourlies. Is there anything I can do or do I just need to wait till I can get Spark of Life or something?

If slow+weaken and regen+health pot (+cure as needed) isn't enough, probably not. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
You could try with some scrolls of life/gods though.

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post Jan 7 2013, 08:02
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QUOTE(vash50000000 @ Jan 7 2013, 12:37) *

I pretty much just want to do hourlies on IWTBH, but i get alpha'd every time I try. Same happens to me about half the time on BT and occasionally on Nintendo, which is the level I've settled on for hourlies. Is there anything I can do or do I just need to wait till I can get Spark of Life or something?

QUOTE(fishinsea @ Jan 7 2013, 12:42) *

I don't think mage can do IWBTH without spark of life? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Speaking as a newbie Mage I know for sure that I couldn't do Hourlies on IWBTH until I had Spark of Life. Infact I still can't do it without Spark of Life (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Basically my Hourlies go something like this: Buff Up(Haste, Shadow Veil, Spark of Life, Arcane Focus) -> do 1 attack then get killed -> heal and then attack continuously while the Spark of Life buff is active -> if they're not dead by the time the buff runs out I use Spark of Life again and depending on my luck I may get 1 shot again before they're dead (most of the mobs are dead by then so I usually don't get killed again) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post Jan 7 2013, 08:21
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Is imperil effect stacked with PA (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jan 7 2013, 08:44
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QUOTE(LiekZomg @ Jan 7 2013, 14:02) *

Speaking as a newbie Mage I know for sure that I couldn't do Hourlies on IWBTH until I had Spark of Life. Infact I still can't do it without Spark of Life (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Basically my Hourlies go something like this: Buff Up(Haste, Shadow Veil, Spark of Life, Arcane Infusion) -> do 1 attack then get killed -> heal and then attack continuously while the Spark of Life buff is active -> if they're not dead by the time the buff runs out I use Spark of Life again and depending on my luck I may get 1 shot again before they're dead (most of the mobs are dead by then so I usually don't get killed again) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


Try to cast weaken on every one of them before started to damage them. That will help you a lot
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post Jan 7 2013, 09:09
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I pretty much just want to do hourlies on IWTBH, but i get alpha'd every time I try. Same happens to me about half the time on BT and occasionally on Nintendo, which is the level I've settled on for hourlies. Is there anything I can do or do I just need to wait till I can get Spark of Life or something?


Weaken everything, starting with mobs that might have a skill ready. If you've got the credits, go grab yourself a dozen or so Scrolls of Life and burn them in hourlies (Scroll slots refill). Thanks to 0.72 and the new monster scaling mod for difficulty (+50 effective levels on IWBTH), you're facing monsters at 84 that we didn't have to deal with until about level 150. Weakening everything should be enough on BT though.

If you've got 50 Hath lying around for some reason, IA 1 for Haste helps with this immensely, since you can throw out more Weakens before the monsters retaliate.

QUOTE(Temchy @ Jan 7 2013, 00:44) *

If slow+weaken and regen+health pot (+cure as needed) isn't enough, probably not. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
You could try with some scrolls of life/gods though.


Slow is pretty useless at his level, and mage REs shouldn't last long enough for Regen to overtake Cure. Pots are still good (I keep one in Battle Inventory specifically for REs).



QUOTE(ahenayau @ Jan 7 2013, 02:21) *

Is imperil effect stacked with PA (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


Sort of. PA reduces monster PMI to 0, Imperil reduces PMI by 25%, but it can't go below 0. The other parts of Imperil stack though, (the reduction of MMI and Elemental Resists), so it can help with weapons with Fire/Cold/Elec/Wind Strike.

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post Jan 7 2013, 10:01
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QUOTE(vash50000000 @ Jan 7 2013, 11:37) *

I pretty much just want to do hourlies on IWTBH, but i get alpha'd every time I try. Same happens to me about half the time on BT and occasionally on Nintendo, which is the level I've settled on for hourlies. Is there anything I can do or do I just need to wait till I can get Spark of Life or something?

either use scroll of life or wait until you get spark

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post Jan 7 2013, 11:43
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i wanna ask how did you decide item/equipment price in WTS market (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
coz i wanna sell some of my inventory (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

thanks
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post Jan 7 2013, 12:36
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i wanna ask how did you decide item/equipment price in WTS market (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
coz i wanna sell some of my inventory (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

thanks

many factor
for starter just look on other people shop and ended auction for same item
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post Jan 7 2013, 16:11
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Is there a reason to do item worlds on higher than easy for PXP?

Other than exp/drops.

I have a really hard time doing an item world run for this staff.
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post Jan 7 2013, 16:15
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QUOTE(blueeyedcolossus @ Jan 7 2013, 22:11) *

Is there a reason to do item worlds on higher than easy for PXP?

Other than exp/drops.

I have a really hard time doing an item world run for this staff.


to save time
to save stamina

to save your SANITY?

it takes ten run in IWTBH to fully upgrade a equipment

so it takes 100 runs on Normal/Easy ?


there is no way I can imagine doing 100 runs of 200 rounds just for one piece of equipment

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post Jan 7 2013, 16:51
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QUOTE(blueeyedcolossus @ Jan 7 2013, 15:11) *

Is there a reason to do item worlds on higher than easy for PXP?

QUOTE(holerider @ Jan 7 2013, 15:15) *

to save time
to save stamina
to save your SANITY?

Time mostly depends on your gear, the higher difficulties (BT+) will probably only save time for the really good geared players. If you're having trouble to finish, easy should be the best, (purely for PXP though) if you can't clear even heroic in less than twice the time, you'll waste time.

Stamina fully agree.

Sanity, well if you can do it w/o paying attention and just watch TV or something while playing on easy, that's way less straining on your stamina than paying attention to not dieing the whole time imo. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Then again you could maybe pay someone to level that thing for you and use the time to "farm" credits in the time saved. No idea if this is better with the new GF now, though.
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post Jan 7 2013, 17:00
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QUOTE(holerider @ Jan 7 2013, 16:15) *

to save time
to save stamina

to save your SANITY?

it takes ten run in IWTBH to fully upgrade a equipment

so it takes 100 runs on Normal/Easy ?
there is no way I can imagine doing 100 runs of 200 rounds just for one piece of equipment

I don't think I could do ANY item world on anything higher than heroic on any of my items. Too many misses and monsters hitting hard. Have to get lucky with mana gems or similar for that to work out.

Also, from what I understand you're saying that you gain more PXP when you do it on a higher difficulty? How much more? Because it seemed like I got the same amount of PXP on some other items I tested that had much less rounds to do.

QUOTE(Temchy @ Jan 7 2013, 16:51) *

Time mostly depends on your gear, the higher difficulties (BT+) will probably only save time for the really good geared players. If you're having trouble to finish, easy should be the best, (purely for PXP though) if you can't clear even heroic in less than twice the time, you'll waste time.

Stamina fully agree.

Sanity, well if you can do it w/o paying attention and just watch TV or something while playing on easy, that's way less straining on your stamina than paying attention to not dieing the whole time imo. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Then again you could maybe pay someone to level that thing for you and use the time to "farm" credits in the time saved. No idea if this is better with the new GF now, though.

That would just mean I wouldn't play. Farming credits is even more boring than this. Besides - how do you farm credits outside of arenas anyway?

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post Jan 7 2013, 17:14
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Also, from what I understand you're saying that you gain more PXP when you do it on a higher difficulty? How much more? Because it seemed like I got the same amount of PXP on some other items I tested that had much less rounds to do.

No, it's not same. Difficulty effect PXP gain from IW
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post Jan 7 2013, 17:28
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1. I'm wondering what's the best choice of main hand weapon for my 1hand+Shield setup? Currently I'm using a Superior Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter and getting Shield Protection and Power Slaughter.

2. Should I make use of Heartseeker do you think? I use my channelings for Regen II atm.

3. Should I make use of Spirit Shield when I get it? I suppose it could be useful when I get a couple of Innate Arcana?

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