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I thought that no one had read my message XD
However... so Niten ichiryu isn't good as a fighting style? I know that there's no proficiency but when I don't have a lot of time its damage is very useful... or is better the 2-hand?

The problem with it is no penetrated armor. I think that about sums it up.

The problem with it is no penetrated armor. I think that about sums it up.

Well, skyward strike procs PA on the whole field, iirc. But I do agree, the only melee styles that work well for me are the ones that allow me to use both spirit stance and PA at the same time which are estoc and dual wield with rapier. Niten is kinda a middle ground where you don't get the main advantage of TH or DW, you can't domino 4 on each side like TH or use frenzy and two different procs like DW. Basically, it's fun to play around with sometimes but that's about it.

You can't shrine figurines, they're rare as fuck though, I've only gotten 2 so far.

good to know that I couldn't have shrined one,

but that meant for the 200ish artifact drops I've gotten, I haven't got one yet

you're right about the rare as fuck part

They should be the rarest of the non-eq drops.
http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Loot_Drop_Rolls

Just seem too rare for it to be 30-40K a pop

at this rate, it would be ten times easier to get the money to buy a whole set before I even get one to drop

I thought that no one had read my message XD
However... so Niten ichiryu isn't good as a fighting style? I know that there's no proficiency but when I don't have a lot of time its damage is very useful... or is better the 2-hand?

I'll give a second opinion on this.
Yes, niten is fairly useless at your level, mainly because you don't have the better equips/stats to support them. But I know some very high-level players (350+) who find niten useful; the disadvantage of no-PA and 5-mob limit is compensated by its skill, and katana's lower damage is compensated by waki. But you really need very good equips in order to do that. It's one good alternate from forged estoc though (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

you're right about the rare as fuck part
Just seem too rare for it to be 30-40K a pop

at this rate, it would be ten times easier to get the money to buy a whole set before I even get one to drop

They're collectibles which serves no real purpose except a very powerful move that you can use every 50 turns. That's why only those who want to collect a whole set would want them.

Well, skyward strike procs PA on the whole field, iirc. But I do agree, the only melee styles that work well for me are the ones that allow me to use both spirit stance and PA at the same time which are estoc and dual wield with rapier. Niten is kinda a middle ground where you don't get the main advantage of TH or DW, you can't domino 4 on each side like TH or use frenzy and two different procs like DW. Basically, it's fun to play around with sometimes but that's about it.

Thanks for your help. But... I have about 80 prof in DW. I'll get frenzy at 100, but on wiki I had read "Hits all enemies for a total of 10-26 hits (depends on the number of enemies)". This means that against a single monster frenzy will hit always for 10 hits or the number of hits will be random?

I thought that no one had read my message XD

It's your signature's fault. It's hypnotizing.

However... so Niten ichiryu isn't good as a fighting style? I know that there's no proficiency but when I don't have a lot of time its damage is very useful... or is better the 2-hand?

Niten is nice, and somewhat cool. But it's been neutered, so it's not as good as 2H at higher levels. A pity, really.

It's your signature's fault. It's hypnotizing.

If u want I can delete it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Niten is nice, and somewhat cool. But it's been neutered, so it's not as good as 2H at higher levels. A pity, really.

Since I'm still on low level it's better for me to start using 2H in order to mantain a good level of prof?

Thanks for your help. But... I have about 80 prof in DW. I'll get frenzy at 100, but on wiki I had read "Hits all enemies for a total of 10-26 hits (depends on the number of enemies)". This means that against a single monster frenzy will hit always for 10 hits or the number of hits will be random?

Don't know the exact calculations but I've gotten widely varying results from flying spaghetti monster using frenzied. I would also say don't use niten until you have both DW and TH profs very high, stick with the basic styles for now.

This post has been edited by fishinsea: Jan 6 2013, 22:42

Since I'm still on low level it's better for me to start using 2H in order to mantain a good level of prof?

Yea, it's better for you to stay in the 2H or DW route for now. Also try to compare these two popular styles and find their advantages.

I'm feeling better with DW since I have a better survivability... but I suffer a lot against multiple targets...

For 2H which is better?

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=ebe24b06d2
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=b96d4a68b4
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=a892f8165d

Since I'm still on low level it's better for me to start using 2H in order to mantain a good level of prof?

If you like niten and plan to use it from time to time you have to Raise both DW and 2H proficiency.

While there's no use for 2H prof over 100 when using Niten, it's crucial to bring it up to 200 ASAP to increase your survival rate past level 200.

Frak! I have 34.50 in 2H prof and I haven't a good weapon... and no credits! Why I spent all my credits in training? XD

EDIT: It makes sense use 2H with shade armor? It's better power or it's the same?

This post has been edited by pigowallace: Jan 6 2013, 23:18

Frak! I have 34.50 in 2H prof and I haven't a good weapon... and no credits! Why I spent all my credits in training? XD

EDIT: It makes sense use 2H with shade armor? It's better power or it's the same?

For shade+2h, you need ethereal mace for survivability and maybe you can try esthereal estoc later when you have high evade like eleeinos.
I don't know what you mean with 'It's better power or it's the same?', maybe you should explain further.

I mean power armor instead of shade armor...

This is my avoidance with this equip:

MH: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=2c64af4034
OH: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=e818ff33a3
Helmet: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=0af62e5bd0
Body: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=d60a6cea99
Hands: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=eedd4bbb8b
Legs: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=c26abc9b56
Feet: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=6646ad9c9b


Avoidance
30.1 % evade
0 % block
23.1 % parry
46 % resist

EDIT: This is my only Ethereal 2H: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=b96d4a68b4

This post has been edited by pigowallace: Jan 7 2013, 00:42

Take out your EXP tanks and put points into holy/dark/soul spells for the resistances.

I think I'll wait until after I hit level 300 to do such a thing.

I mean power armor instead of shade armor...

It's more to playing style, so which one work better for you.
Indeed there are performance and budget to consider, but there are also your time, devotion, sanity, etc.
Light armour need more management than heavy armour. If you plan to mindless press numpad, use heavy armour.

Your shade equipment is okay for your level. For weapon you need ethereal mace for survivability, and you need to consider difficulty you play with.

Try shade and power armour you have and use which one better for you.

Already tried... I prefer shade armor (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Ok, I'll wait until I found a cheap eth mace or I loot it...

Thanks!

This post has been edited by pigowallace: Jan 7 2013, 01:28

@Lement:
I have completely failed to understand what you quoted. I am reading that for 9 monsters, there is some kind of effective mitigation of 62%, and so forth. And I can't figure out what the evade has to do with it. Also I'm not seeing any distinction being made between BW and PA in those stats.
I'm pretty sure I've just misunderstood though, maybe you could clarify?
About the maging, I did some exquisite IWs on easy with PKs nif gear, which I think counts as decent unforged equipment. Still got resisted like a madman, to the point where I had to start focusing to fight the big5. Which probably was only a good idea because it was easy. What I'm getting at is that it's probably not terribly difficult to put together the equipment that has the theoretical stats to do the blasting but I'm under the impression that the resisting is going to kick your ass either way.

Correct, but you're forgetting that your staff, cloth and elemental profs weren't so great when you got resisted like madmen. Well, putting together spare exq of nif gear isn't exactly expensive.

The chart provided by skillchip means at the level where bleeding wound weapon and PA weapon with equivalent damage will match each other damage over long time. Evade matters because if estoc gets evaded it loses the full damage, not so for longsword. Similarly, domino doesn't proc all the time and when it does the edge monsters don't get full damage, so bleeding wound has an advantage there. The mitigation numbers are to find out whether it has an advantage, to find those for one's level one may either use some ML calculations or do some testing.

This means that against a single monster frenzy will hit always for 10 hits or the number of hits will be random?

It's random even against a single monster. I get between 10-21 hits usually (I don't think I've ever gotten over 21, maybe 22 but I'm not sure. I think it's been nerfed a little since the 26 hit max). It's a lot easier to use frenzy against single monsters cause it works a shitload better with PA proc'ed. Although if you use a high turn (6 or 7) & proc chance rapier and have a high crit chance it's easy to just hit every enemy once or twice to proc PA and then unleash frenzy (it also helps to have high action speed and SS lv.5 on both weapons so you can increase the amount of hits you can get in before PA runs out). In fact, that's the only way it works well against multiple targets on high difficulties.

This post has been edited by T_Starrk: Jan 7 2013, 03:23

Well I finally got my first Magnificent item: Magnificent Buckler of Protection

Is this as horrible as I think it is? Do people even use Bucklers?