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You sure you're not maxed TH prof?

Question: what spells do I need to try dark maging? currently have ragnorok and (2 points in) banish only, is arcane focus, pestilence, slow and imperil necessary enough to warrant a reset?

Question: what spells do I need to try dark maging? currently have ragnorok and (2 points in) banish only, is arcane focus, pestilence, slow and imperil necessary enough to warrant a reset?

arcane focus is almost a must. Slow isn't useful. Imperil is good.
As for offensive spells, it depends on the difficulty you're trying. But I would pick purge and pestilence if I were you for the flexibility.

This post has been edited by varst: Jan 3 2013, 17:51

Probably battletoads or lower after I get the profs up, do you use imperil against regular mobs? If it's only for schoolgirls I'll wait 5 levels to max arcane focus and train some more ability boost for pestilence.

You sure you're not maxed TH prof?

Well, yes, of course I've maxed out 2H to my level. What I always thought was that the prof gain calculation engine won't even activate once prof=level.

Also, Imperil isn't necessary for the really lower difficulties; but on BT and IWBTH, it does come in rather handy. There are custom mobs out there about as tough as any schoolgirl you'd care to pick, after all.

Probably battletoads or lower after I get the profs up, do you use imperil against regular mobs? If it's only for schoolgirls I'll wait 5 levels to max arcane focus and train some more ability boost for pestilence.

I rarely incorporate imperil into my strategy, so it's hard for me to tell if it suits you.

Slow isn't useful.

I've found it to be better than Weaken.

I've found it to be better than Weaken.

For maging, magnet is more useful if you want to slow down the monsters and not letting them to resist at the same time.

Well, yes, of course I've maxed out 2H to my level. What I always thought was that the prof gain calculation engine won't even activate once prof=level.

Also, Imperil isn't necessary for the really lower difficulties; but on BT and IWBTH, it does come in rather handy. There are custom mobs out there about as tough as any schoolgirl you'd care to pick, after all.

you only the 0 gain in the run were you maxed it, the next run you start it won't show up.

you only the 0 gain in the run were you maxed it, the next run you start it won't show up.

Does that imply if you have max prof and level up mid run, the rest of the run you wont be able to skill up?

is this, http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=bf98adc4ae , a good estoc?

Should I start grinding up my proficiencies or wait until I get a decent amount of assimilator (5/10 or 10/10)? Or is there something that I need to get up urgently?

Stats:


This post has been edited by ShiningMeow: Jan 3 2013, 23:31

Imgur doesn't work, try using the forum attachment, but I would say worry about proficiencies only if you switch fighting styles. At your level, it really doesn't matter too much. Also, chances are, you'll never get to assimilator 10 (or even 5, I'm still at 0).

Should I start grinding up my proficiencies or wait until I get a decent amount of assimilator (5/10 or 10/10)? Or is there something that I need to get up urgently?

Stats: [i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/ZS0b1.jpg

I trained one single level of assimilator trained when I was around your level,

and found out it wasn't really needed, as the profs eventually catch up, even when power leveling

I had near to zero heavy armor prof when I was lv.150ish, and now I'm lv.24X and have 220 heavy armor prof with out doing any prof grinding at all

Should I start grinding up my proficiencies or wait until I get a decent amount of assimilator (5/10 or 10/10)? Or is there something that I need to get up urgently?

Stats: [i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/ZS0b1.jpg

Profs start catching level rather quickly as you approach 200+ and the XP required to level starts to mount quickly.

Now that 200 is a slope rather than a looming cliff of doom, it also means there's no point at 190 or so where you grind the fuck out of anything you think you'll need, you'll be able to tell when it's becoming a problem earlier.

You probably won't train much assimilator and it's only necessary if you're powerleveling consistently. I have like 3 and my pertinent mage profs are 177/200 Elemental and 115-126 for Dep/Sup/Cur (honestly, my Curative could use a bit of grinding).

The major exceptions to the 'no grinding necessary' thing are Cloth and Staff before you hit really high levels, since if you're doing it right you aren't getting hit nearly as much as a Heavy build and you aren't thwacking with a Staff/MM nearly as much as you're just blasting the fuck out of everything. Fortunately, Cloth and Staff have relatively minor effects anyway. Every now and then I'll do 10 or so rounds of Crude IWBTH IW and just beat everyone down with a Focus Staff.

This post has been edited by PK678353: Jan 4 2013, 00:07

is this, http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=bf98adc4ae , a good estoc?

certainly, the damage is still on superior range but it has a good PA turn and maxed str.

Does that imply if you have max prof and level up mid run, the rest of the run you wont be able to skill up?

iirc, you still get prof during that circumstance. i did the experiment a while back so my memory is hazy about it

edit: unless i misinterpreted you meant

base prof = level

level during run

can you develop prof during the same run since base prof is no longer = level (i believe answer = yes)

edit2: about slow, i find it useful vs FSM.(it's the difference between using 1 cure or 10 cures) not vs anyone else, really.

about imperil, i use it quite often nowadays. it's the difference between 2rags+2banish or just 1imperil+1rag (sometimes) - courtesy of high PL elementals

This post has been edited by Slobber: Jan 4 2013, 04:58

edit2: about slow, i find it useful vs FSM.(it's the difference between using 1 cure or 10 cures) not vs anyone else, really.

about imperil, i use it quite often nowadays. it's the difference between 2rags+2banish or just 1imperil+1rag (sometimes) - courtesy of high PL elementals

Yup, slow is useful on FSM. With magnet I don't even need any regen on (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

And yea, that's why I recommend imperil even though I rarely use that; it's me who's the odd one who rarely use deprecating spells. More like personal style/preference (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Yup, slow is useful on FSM. With magnet I don't even need any regen on (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

And yea, that's why I recommend imperil even though I rarely use that; it's me who's the odd one who rarely use deprecating spells. More like personal style/preference (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I know right!? Courtesy of Skillchip for inspiring me to stack the magnet+slow since FSM used to double tap me all the time even though I was hasted and agi was my third highest PAB

And whatever works for you in the end. I'm sure there are lots of players that don't use imperil as well. The HV keybind script makes using it pretty convenient though. I basically have everything accessible on a left hand resting at home row.

a = imperil
v = ragnarok
f = banish (this one kills me sometimes because the script lags so I end up focusing instead... should probably change it to something else)

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