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post Oct 6 2010, 15:45
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QUOTE(echimaru @ Oct 6 2010, 18:26) *

which mean that i should look for new rapier and that shield

'silk set' wasnt it should be used for mage type? and if i change my set, can i get the high level one?(like lv150+ eq or so with at least average quality?) since the burden was one my problem

You should challenge it with the equipment whose value of evade is high.
In that case, the gear of silk is useful in most side.

When you fight with magic, I suggest the gear of gossamer more than silk.
The hit rate of the magic is raised with silk over here in the opposite direction.

But, damage must be resigned to both.

After I increased a level a little more, I did a victory in MBP first.
However, if I knew how to use scroll, it was earlier, and I might have been able to do a victory.
Incidentally, I beat it up with magic in case of me. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
(When it is troublesome, I appreciate having a hand held out here.)

Though I can't win against Ryouko's now and I am in trouble. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
It is over if I don't prevent it in the shield completely.

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post Oct 6 2010, 16:20
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QUOTE(echimaru @ Oct 6 2010, 10:26) *

which mean that i should look for new rapier and that shield

Yep.
QUOTE(echimaru @ Oct 6 2010, 10:26) *

'silk set' wasnt it should be used for mage type? and if i change my set, can i get the high level one?(like lv150+ eq or so with at least average quality?) since the burden was one my problem
Silk is cloth armor is for melee, though mage can also use it. Cloth armor has no interference, and it's the gear with less burden, you'll be fine even with lv250+. It can be "fair" quality, what you should look is for +4% evade for cap/legs, +5% for robe, and +3% for hands/feet at least.
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post Oct 6 2010, 16:35
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Oct 6 2010, 22:20) *

Yep.
Silk is cloth armor is for melee, though mage can also use it. Cloth armor has no interference, and it's the gear with less burden, you'll be fine even with lv250+. It can be "fair" quality, what you should look is for +4% evade for cap/legs, +5% for robe, and +3% for hands/feet at least.

hmm... i see. how much that silk set might cost if i might ask since i rarely change my eq. and the weapon is rapier? not use short sword or other one hand weapon?
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post Oct 6 2010, 16:46
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You should be able to get a good idea just by looking around the WTS forum. Super awesome Fleet gear tends to get auctioned for stupid amounts of credits, but there's a lot of "second best" stuff available for less than Bazaar prices.
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post Oct 7 2010, 17:39
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which one should i use/get, assuming they are all scaled to my level...

Fair gossamer shoes of the elementalist - has Elemental Proficiency Bonus

Fine phase shoes of mjolnir - no interference, has Elec Elemental Damage Bonus, has higher evade chance and resist chance than the gossamer shoes

Fine phase shoes of the curse-weaver - no interference, has the highest evade chance and resist chance out of the three

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post Oct 7 2010, 19:11
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ok thx another question i have is which challenge level is the best for a level up.

my level is 28 now and i need ca.3300 exp per level.

Im playing on easy atm, 0.8 exp (3 monster =ca 14 exp) isnt that bad i can easily go till round 14-18 with using cure.

If i try on normal max is round 8-12(with cure), on hard (3moster= ca 27 exp) round 1-3 without using cure maybe 5 with using cure.

Im not sure but i think its the best for me to level up on easy because first of all you get much more money, more proficiency, more items? and much more second wind so i dont need to use cure so often.

What do you think am i doing it right? Or ist it better to try a harder level?

Any Suggestions?
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post Oct 7 2010, 19:19
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QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ Oct 7 2010, 16:39) *

which one should i use/get, assuming they are all scaled to my level...

I think what you need are better Elementalist shoes, to be honest. I don't think either Phase pair would be much of an improvement for you.
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post Oct 7 2010, 19:35
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QUOTE(Bonebuster @ Oct 8 2010, 01:11) *

ok thx another question i have is which challenge level is the best for a level up.

my level is 28 now and i need ca.3300 exp per level.

Im playing on easy atm, 0.8 exp (3 monster =ca 14 exp) isnt that bad i can easily go till round 14-18 with using cure.

If i try on normal max is round 8-12(with cure), on hard (3moster= ca 27 exp) round 1-3 without using cure maybe 5 with using cure.

Im not sure but i think its the best for me to level up on easy because first of all you get much more money, more proficiency, more items? and much more second wind so i dont need to use cure so often.

What do you think am i doing it right? Or ist it better to try a harder level?

Any Suggestions?


item world will be better for level-ing. the higher the quality of the item, the slightly higher the exp it will be but the monsters will also be slighter stronger.

item world however does not give any credits but the monster drop rate is still the same as grindfest.

QUOTE(Sayo Aisaka @ Oct 8 2010, 01:19) *

I think what you need are better Elementalist shoes, to be honest. I don't think either Phase pair would be much of an improvement for you.


i understand that my damage will suffer a little due to a lower elemental proficiency bonus but wouldn't the higher magic accuracy and higher evade be a good trade-off?

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post Oct 7 2010, 21:16
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QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ Oct 7 2010, 18:35) *

i understand that my damage will suffer a little due to a lower elemental proficiency bonus but wouldn't the higher magic accuracy and higher evade be a good trade-off?

Maybe, if you're taking too much damage and having trouble hitting things. I don't think I can really help you make that decision. Just make sure you've found the best piece for what you want - there could be Gossamer shoes that are better. Not that I have any for sale...
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post Oct 7 2010, 22:51
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QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ Oct 7 2010, 19:35) *

item world will be better for level-ing. the higher the quality of the item, the slightly higher the exp it will be but the monsters will also be slighter stronger.

item world however does not give any credits but the monster drop rate is still the same as grindfest.


Yeah i know that item world is better for leveling but you can do it only 10 times a day and thats not enough (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) .
Im playing on hard then i start item world. Is it only me or are the monster in item world pretty weak compared to the one in grindfest?
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post Oct 7 2010, 23:45
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QUOTE(Bonebuster @ Oct 7 2010, 14:51) *

Yeah i know that item world is better for leveling but you can do it only 10 times a day and thats not enough (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) .
Im playing on hard then i start item world. Is it only me or are the monster in item world pretty weak compared to the one in grindfest?


10 times isn't enough? Get a level 240 item then.
And always FLEE before completing it. (So at level 240 in the very last round you use flee.)
That way you can start IW in the same item again.
2390 rounds should be plenty enough.
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post Oct 8 2010, 01:23
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Rofl my highest round was 40 on hard O.o i think im not strong enough yet even on a lower level it would be still impossible for me to reach round 244 or at least 100 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Oct 8 2010, 05:36
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I typically don't do the Blazing Field and fresh meat arenas due to risk since I only beat them half the time.

What should I do do beat them more consistently?
I've found meleeing them is pointless.

Tried maging with a staff and a 24% evade set (is that low for my level?). But I take a ton of damage when I do get hit, even with shield, and on later rounds of these arenas 1 bad turn and I'm dead.

Would I have more success If i tried using a battlecaster Sword and a shield for the parry/block but tried to still spellcast my way through everything?

I'd be trying these options:

Average Mithril Rapier of the Battlecaster
Fine Prism Shortsword of the Battlecaster
Fine Steel Shortsword of the Battlecaster Better parry than the above but weaker MDM/MACC

I don't have any battlecaster daggers, but would they work better?


Fair Titanium Kite Shield of the Battlecaster
Fine Bronze Kite Shield of Deflection -> Significantly better block, but not battlecaster

My Stats are all equal atm, with the intention to be a full mage later.

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post Oct 8 2010, 06:23
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QUOTE(PsychoticSoul @ Oct 8 2010, 03:36) *

I typically don't do the Blazing Field and fresh meat arenas due to risk since I only beat them half the time.

What should I do do beat them more consistently?
I've found meleeing them is pointless.

Tried maging with a staff and a 24% evade set (is that low for my level?). But I take a ton of damage when I do get hit, even with shield, and on later rounds of these arenas 1 bad turn and I'm dead.

Would I have more success If i tried using a battlecaster Sword and a shield for the parry/block but tried to still spellcast my way through everything?

I'd be trying these options:

Average Mithril Rapier of the Battlecaster
Fine Prism Shortsword of the Battlecaster
Fine Steel Shortsword of the Battlecaster Better parry than the above but weaker MDM/MACC

I don't have any battlecaster daggers, but would they work better?
Fair Titanium Kite Shield of the Battlecaster
Fine Bronze Kite Shield of Deflection -> Significantly better block, but not battlecaster

My Stats are all equal atm, with the intention to be a full mage later.



when you fight them do you put some of them to sleep and fight the others or maybe cast weaken on ones you are fighting? or do you just try and take on all of them at once?
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post Oct 8 2010, 06:38
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I don't have sleep.
If i try to play as mage thunderstorm would render it pointless, and as melee Weaken seems more mp-efficient.
When I melee I usually use weaken on at least 2 mobs per round, and melee works fine up to rolling stone, but on blazing field/fresh meat I may run out of pots, hence me trying to mage through them now.
When I've tried as a staff mage I only weaken minibosses, trying to kill mobs at start of round instead of weakening them. With staff it takes 2-5 rounds of thunderstorm to kill a mob, and I get resisted a lot.
Was wondering whether trying to mage thru these areans but with battlecaster weapons/shields for the defese would be worth a little less power form not using a staff and if that would work better.
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post Oct 8 2010, 09:34
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I am really having trouble going into arena with normal higher than 5 rounds, even with potions.
I can't go any higher with cake in grindfest than 20 with two-handed weapon, with one-handed and shield is much more difficult.
Should I change to mage since it's much effective with killing monster? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
What should I do to have a better result in arena, I have lost a lot of credit cause the inability to fight huge numbers of monster.
It feels like that every monster fighting is so difficult. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Oct 8 2010, 11:37
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QUOTE(PsychoticSoul @ Oct 8 2010, 05:38) *

With staff it takes 2-5 rounds of thunderstorm to kill a mob, and I get resisted a lot.
Was wondering whether trying to mage thru these areans but with battlecaster weapons/shields for the defese would be worth a little less power form not using a staff and if that would work better.
You don't cast only thunderstorm, that's only the first spell, then you cast inferno, since deep burns reduces fire resistance, and those provoke explosions which is extra damage to monster. (Its' explained in wiki)
If you get too many resists, use a focus staff. Use shield spell.
Battlecaster is only good for vs 1 monster, and a good rapier is always preferable than these weapons you have.

QUOTE(usahjj @ Oct 8 2010, 08:34) *

I am really having trouble going into arena with normal higher than 5 rounds, even with potions.
I can't go any higher with cake in grindfest than 20 with two-handed weapon, with one-handed and shield is much more difficult.
Should I change to mage since it's much effective with killing monster? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
What should I do to have a better result in arena, I have lost a lot of credit cause the inability to fight huge numbers of monster.
It feels like that every monster fighting is so difficult. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
You have crappy gear, and you fucked stats, so it's normal.
Get Full heavy Plate with most high physical absorption it's better for you until +50 levels later.
Don't use buckers, find a kite with good block, and use a rapier. For 2H use a longsword/katana.
mage is ineffective in lower levels.
Get weaken, and fill up the rest of MP tanks first.
Stats: all at your level, then with the rest xp, raise WIS more than INT. (You'll have to raise at +4 levels to reach this)
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post Oct 8 2010, 13:08
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Oct 8 2010, 17:37) *

You don't cast only thunderstorm, that's only the first spell, then you cast inferno, since deep burns reduces fire resistance, and those provoke explosions which is extra damage to monster. (Its' explained in wiki)
If you get too many resists, use a focus staff. Use shield spell.
Battlecaster is only good for vs 1 monster, and a good rapier is always preferable than these weapons you have.



I'm thinking this ability tree may need fixing now...

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post Oct 8 2010, 13:48
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QUOTE(PsychoticSoul @ Oct 8 2010, 12:08) *

I'm thinking this ability tree may need fixing now...
And the gear as well, You'll will be a lot better with elementalist gear now, the best avoidance you can get is by dead mobs, not some +5-10% extra evade, plus holy/dark is only for special cases (like legendaries). Get inferno, thunderstorm, including the ratings. Fill up HP/MP tanks, you can get rid of poison for now if you can't get much more AP. Remove AP of SP+OC as well.

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post Oct 8 2010, 14:13
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I do have almsot the same problem as usahjj.
The Arena figths with more than 5 rounds are pretty hard for me i always have to use all of my items(5) and and even if i use cure its still to hard because the monster especially the mini boss are hurting me to much (30-60 hp i think per round).


Here are my stats maybe someone have a tip / suggestion for me




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