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post Dec 29 2012, 10:56
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http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=1ad35bbf30

Exq (Mag) stats:
7298.8 (7276.9)base damage
167.3 (165)% hit chance
49.2 (49)% crit chance

150 (149)% mana cost

Damage Mitigation
77.6 (77.8)% physical
69.9 (70)% magical

Avoidance
16.6 (18)% evade
0 (0)% block
42 (41.4)% parry
17.4 (17.4)% resist

Action speed 262.4 (262.4)

Worth the change...? What do you guys think?

Edit: just leveled up to 367...

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post Dec 29 2012, 11:02
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QUOTE(MidNightPass @ Dec 29 2012, 09:56) *

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=1ad35bbf30

Exq (Mag) stats:
7283.2 (7261.4)base damage
167.3 (164.9)% hit chance
49.1 (48.9)% crit chance

150 (149)% mana cost

Damage Mitigation
77.6 (77.7)% physical
69.8 (70)% magical

Avoidance
16.5 (18)% evade
0 (0)% block
41.9 (41.4)% parry
17.4 (17.4)% resist

Action speed 262.3 (262.4)

Worth the change...? What do you guys think?


Hit and crit chance drop sensibly. This may be offset by the slight improvement in your defense, but personally I wouldn't switch.
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post Dec 29 2012, 11:16
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QUOTE(Coma @ Dec 29 2012, 01:22) *

It is a good one


Think I could get a good amount of scrap for it for should I just save it for my DW set?
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post Dec 29 2012, 11:20
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QUOTE(n125 @ Dec 29 2012, 04:02) *

I've concentrated all of my experience into END/AGI/INT/WIS, so my base END right now is 350 (+18 from artifacts). But I plan to take my STR (and DEX) up to 300 very soon so that should help out physical mitigation a little.

Ooh... I totally forgot Voidseeker Shards were a thing! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) I have this estoc which isn't awesome but probably good enough with shards for unserious messing about.


I wouldn't mind lending you this one, I'm not using it right now.

Better PA all around and no shards needed.
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post Dec 29 2012, 12:23
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Ah, no thanks; but I appreciate the offer! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) The estoc I have now is fine for just experimenting every now and then.
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post Dec 29 2012, 13:55
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QUOTE(n125 @ Dec 29 2012, 03:02) *

I've concentrated all of my experience into END/AGI/INT/WIS, so my base END right now is 350 (+18 from artifacts). But I plan to take my STR (and DEX) up to 300 very soon so that should help out physical mitigation a little.

Ooh... I totally forgot Voidseeker Shards were a thing! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) I have this estoc which isn't awesome but probably good enough with shards for unserious messing about.


that has nice damage but isn't something i would forge or do more then 1 or 2 IW in. It should give you a feel for melee and a good way to grind proficiency.

QUOTE(Hoheneim @ Dec 29 2012, 09:20) *

I wouldn't mind lending you this one, I'm not using it right now.

Better PA all around and no shards needed.


n123's looks a lot better to me. it has +300 damage at my level then yours, the %PA can make a big difference on IWBTH but I don't think n123 is going to try that yet.
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post Dec 29 2012, 15:21
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QUOTE(MidNightPass @ Dec 29 2012, 10:56) *

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=1ad35bbf30

Exq (Mag) stats:
7298.8 (7276.9)base damage
167.3 (165)% hit chance
49.2 (49)% crit chance

150 (149)% mana cost

Damage Mitigation
77.6 (77.8)% physical
69.9 (70)% magical

Avoidance
16.6 (18)% evade
0 (0)% block
42 (41.4)% parry
17.4 (17.4)% resist

Action speed 262.4 (262.4)

Worth the change...? What do you guys think?

Edit: just leveled up to 367...

Seems your exquisite is more or less same value as your magnificent.

Do you prefer Hit/Critical Chance or Defense stats? Personally I wont switch at your level.
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post Dec 29 2012, 16:17
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QUOTE(4EverLost @ Dec 29 2012, 12:55) *

n123's looks a lot better to me. it has +300 damage at my level then yours, the %PA can make a big difference on IWBTH but I don't think n123 is going to try that yet.


At my level's it's a 200 points difference, but I don't have a higher damage output Eth estoc to offer... And my non-Eth isn't that much better than n125's.
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post Dec 29 2012, 18:47
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http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=855da13fdf

just got this staff from bazaar, does it count as a good stuff for my level? I'm using sutr set at the moment
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post Dec 29 2012, 19:01
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QUOTE(L2linhdt @ Dec 29 2012, 18:47) *

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=855da13fdf

just got this staff from bazaar, does it count as a good stuff for my level? I'm using sutr set at the moment

For a newbie, this staff is so-so; but for higher level, not good enough. Elementalist Ebony is better as you may not have high enough prof to support the Elemental Damage Bonus.


You can get better staffs for free at WTS [Free] shops.
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post Dec 29 2012, 19:06
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QUOTE(Coma @ Dec 30 2012, 01:01) *

For a newbie, this staff is so-so; but for higher level, not good enough. Elementalist Ebony is better as you may not have high enough prof to support the Elemental Damage Bonus.
You can get better staffs for free at WTS [Free] shops.

Thx, will try finding but i'm rather fond of focus staff because i don't like something getting missed when using other ones. BTW, my staff profencies is 10 right now, should i grinding it up to catch up with my level, and what is the best method to do that
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post Dec 29 2012, 19:20
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QUOTE(L2linhdt @ Dec 29 2012, 19:06) *

Thx, will try finding but i'm rather fond of focus staff because i don't like something getting missed when using other ones. BTW, my staff profencies is 10 right now, should i grinding it up to catch up with my level, and what is the best method to do that

You dont have to grind for prof, since at higher level you will get prof quicker. Dont grind for elemental prof, since you might switch over to Holy/Dark at 150 for more damage burst.

Basic mage gears and staffs should have provided at least 90% accuracy, you actually dont need to worry about evade/resist as the monsters dont even have 5% avoidance stats. What you need is more firepower: more damage = less monster = more mana conserved.

Read the wiki for basic advices: http://ehwiki.org/wiki/HentaiVerse_Advice

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post Dec 29 2012, 22:40
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L2linhdt: Your cloth, staff and auras should put you over 100. Under 100 may happen at your level for melees, but mages shouldn't run into that problem given that cloth gives accuracy.

As for prof grinding: Get up the offensive spell profs on some weaker arenas or sth. Staff and cloth prof may need help though if you play low difficulty, running on very low crude(cotton is easy to find) IWBTH IW meleeing everything with staff works, but tbh they give about equal benefit and aren't really so important until you are at the point where gear upgrades are weeks to months in between each one. Until then you'll get more damage if you in that time kills stuff and use what you gather to buy upgrades.
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post Dec 29 2012, 23:39
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Alright. I haven't asked for much help yet, but I have been getting my ass kicked at mostly every turn for about the past two weeks. So here I am, bruised a little and looking for a lot of help.
I have included a screen shot of my stats, equips and abilities. I think that just about covers it. if I missed one, let me know.
oh yeah I just realized I'm missing my auras
I have Red, Orange, Yellow, Green and Indigo

as for the build type I'm trying to get in a fast and heavy hitter. I have mostly shade armor, and one void wep (it should probably be on my main though.)



If I have to do a complete stat rebuild than so be it.

So yeah. if anyone has some great pointers or better build suggestions. I'd gladly take them.



Also I work during the week. so it might take a few days for me to get major stat changes implemented. But I'll work on them every chance I get.


Ok guys, thanks for any future help.


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post Dec 29 2012, 23:56
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Your WIS and INT are a bit imbalanced, they could be around 80% of your current level, with WIS slightly higher than INT. (corrected, thanks Arxdewn)

Since you use Shade, you should need Shadow Veil buff as top priority. Weaken, Spark of Life, Silence, plus few extra Spirit Tank and Overcharge there and here.

Try replace Negation and Arcanist suffixes with Fleet/Shadow Dancer, since both suffixes dont offer much combat/survival benefit. I would try to upgrade to Superior quality (because those generally have better PAB and other stat rolls) Key stats for armor are Weapon Damage, Evade, Critical Chance, PMI, in that order. Key PAB are STR, DEX, AGI, and END (very easy to find 4-PAB Light Leather)

I would ditch all Shortswords, since they are too medicore, you want a Slaughter as main hand (like your axe or a club), with Balance/Nimble Rapier/Dagger as offhand (because both contributes to parry and offhand strike chance)

If you have extra money left after upgrading armor and weapons, invest in both Refined Aura and Pack Rat.

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post Dec 30 2012, 00:23
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I think Coma means Wis > Int
Since you lack money, at the least, reverse your main and off hand weapons.
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post Dec 30 2012, 00:30
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QUOTE(Coma @ Dec 29 2012, 17:56) *

Your WIS and INT are a bit imbalanced, they could be around 80% of your current level, with INT slightly higher than WIS.

Since you use Shade, you should need Shadow Veil buff as top priority. Weaken, Spark of Life, Silence, plus few extra Spirit Tank and Overcharge there and here.

Try replace Negation and Arcanist suffixes with Fleet/Shadow Dancer, since both suffixes dont offer much combat/survival benefit. I would try to upgrade to Superior quality (because those generally have better PAB and other stat rolls) Key stats for armor are Weapon Damage, Evade, Critical Chance, PMI, in that order. Key PAB are STR, DEX, AGI, and END (very easy to find 4-PAB Light Leather)

I would ditch all Shortswords, since they are too medicore, you want a Slaughter as main hand (like your axe or a club), with Balance/Nimble Rapier/Dagger as offhand (because both contributes to parry and offhand strike chance)

If you have extra money left after upgrading armor and weapons, invest in both Refined Aura and Pack Rat.


ok so far I switched my Ethereal Axe (my bad, I called it void earlier) to my main hand. And then I have an Fine Axe of Slaughter that I put on my secondary hand. I don't have any nimble stuff. And the balance stuff i have is Short Swords, so those are out. I have a dagger, but its of the BattleCaster. Would that be better than My Fine Axe of Slaughter?


I really wasn't striving all that much to do much with magic, but if you say so. I'll pull some points from my Agility and Endurance and try and balance Wisdom and Intelligence. I'll try and get those stats up.

Then I'll do a reset on my abilities and make sure to include the spells you listed.

As for my armor. I'll start hunting down sets that match those suffixes.


Thanks a lot. I'll get to work asap.
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post Dec 30 2012, 00:37
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QUOTE(Kinsei @ Dec 30 2012, 06:39) *

Alright. I haven't asked for much help yet, but I have been getting my ass kicked at mostly every turn for about the past two weeks. So here I am, bruised a little and looking for a lot of help.
I have included a screen shot of my stats, equips and abilities. I think that just about covers it. if I missed one, let me know.
oh yeah I just realized I'm missing my auras
I have Red, Orange, Yellow, Green and Indigo

as for the build type I'm trying to get in a fast and heavy hitter. I have mostly shade armor, and one void wep (it should probably be on my main though.)
If I have to do a complete stat rebuild than so be it.

So yeah. if anyone has some great pointers or better build suggestions. I'd gladly take them.
Also I work during the week. so it might take a few days for me to get major stat changes implemented. But I'll work on them every chance I get.
Ok guys, thanks for any future help.
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Hmm... You have 1 kevlar and 4 shade, and you want to have a fast and heavy hitter?
As for what I know heavy hitter in current version of HV=using penetrated armour.
Then you should copy Evil Scorpio style, with kevlar of protection for high physical mitigation.
If you insist for using shade and DW, try to copy T_Starrk with ethereal club(for stun) and ethereal rapier(for penetrated armour).
Change your weapon to ethereal, I recommend all light armour user to use ethereal weapon.
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post Dec 30 2012, 00:53
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QUOTE(Kinsei @ Dec 29 2012, 23:30) *

I really wasn't striving all that much to do much with magic, but if you say so. I'll pull some points from my Agility and Endurance and try and balance Wisdom and Intelligence. I'll try and get those stats up.


A word to the wise: don't bother spending points on intelligence. As a bruiser you can leave it 100 points below all the others stats without any problem. Pull 5-6 points each from END and AGI and spend it all on WIS.

Also, don't get fixated on Fleet/Shadowdancer and whatnot. Just pay attention to the actual stats/quality ofyour gear and avoid mixing kevlar with shade, choose one or the other.
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post Dec 30 2012, 01:05
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ok a quick update.
I used some of that precious hath I have been hording. and bought an auto-cast slot.
redid my abilities and got my spells.
(Spark of life last 80 turns with an enhancement sweet new favorite spell!)

got my INT up to 138
and my WIS up to 148

I'm running at 161. so that should be somewhere around 80%... I really don't feel like doing the math.
it only cost me 5 points of Agility and Endurance. so that worked out. I'm going to look through my spare armor a bit to see what else I got that could match.

I could be mistaken, actually I most likely am, but I thought Shade armor was better than just Kevlar.
I have a small collection of both, so which should I use.
I was so close to ridding myself of all burden too..
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