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post Oct 5 2010, 21:23
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QUOTE(PSPhreak @ Oct 6 2010, 02:40) *

even though i am still short a pair of pants and my stats still need to be rebalanced, i have started maging a little bit here and there to gain some proficiency and i have a few questions.

what is more important to get first, staff proficiency or spell proficiency?

does staff proficiency affect ET%? most of the times i have proc'd CM i have not been able to proc ET because i kill the monster with the melee attack without proc'ing ET.

what is the duration for CM anyway?


go to your equipment page, on the statistics panel on the right, click down three times until you see Fighting style procs...
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post Oct 5 2010, 21:28
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Oct 6 2010, 03:05) *

Heavy gear is not recommended for anything than cake griding, get a set of evade silk, and use a rapier+shield for the extra protection, and PA+poison = extra damage.
Use weaken to half MBP's damage, and bring a scroll of gods to survive MPB's spirit attack
RoB monters are all legendaries, we are the ones that made the distinction between them.

Both, but spell prof will rise a lot faster.
No.
That's normal, the mini-bosses are the best for ET.

but i with my weapon(two handed sword) if i use silk set, wouldnt my defense would be suck? is there any other good set since that longsword was my best weapon atm?
(buying equipments were expensive but considering the usage wouldnt it be better if change eq first compare with changing weapon)
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post Oct 5 2010, 21:54
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i believe the shield is there to make up for the reduced defense. silk has attack accuracy bonus, evade chance and low burden so less of your attacks misses, more dodging from monsters' attacks and higher attack frequently from you.

furthermore...
absorption and migitation = take less damage
evade = take no damage at all
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post Oct 5 2010, 21:57
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QUOTE(echimaru @ Oct 5 2010, 20:28) *

but i with my weapon(two handed sword) if i use silk set, wouldnt my defense would be suck? is there any other good set since that longsword was my best weapon atm?

No, +5% evade gives the same protection +5% mitigation, and absorption don't help if you're too slow, and that's what happens with heavy gear, plus too many interference also reduces your cure power (like the other spells).
You don't need a spectacular rapier or shield to win this, but they are a lot better the any 2H style for you now.
Rapier gives parry -> protects against physical attacks,
Shield gives block -> protects against all attacks.
cmal has this shield

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post Oct 5 2010, 23:39
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I'm currently a melee fighter and i'm thinking about changing to maging at lvl 130~, seems like maging is better for grinding, or am i wrong?

But about the equipment, what should i focus on? Elemental proc? And how much should i try to get?

Thank you and sorry for the trouble, im clueless to maging
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post Oct 5 2010, 23:49
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Oct 5 2010, 15:05) *

RoB monters are all legendaries, we are the ones that made the distinction between them.

Not entirely true. They ARE divided into two different categories, since they have different tag colors. There's also the significant difference in their strength. We may have been the ones to create those labels, but Tenboro did make a distinction between them.

QUOTE(AlexKay @ Oct 5 2010, 17:39) *

I'm currently a melee fighter and i'm thinking about changing to maging at lvl 130~, seems like maging is better for grinding, or am i wrong?

But about the equipment, what should i focus on? Elemental proc? And how much should i try to get?

Thank you and sorry for the trouble, im clueless to maging

Maging is great for nuking everything to hell. Unless you're part of the elite club, Elemental spells will be your bread and butter, so focus on that.

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Old vs New

No opinions? It'd be paired with this katana.

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post Oct 5 2010, 23:53
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QUOTE(cmal @ Oct 5 2010, 18:49) *

Maging is great for nuking everything to hell. Unless you're part of the elite club, Elemental spells will be your bread and butter, so focus on that.


I don't think i'm part of the elite club ^^
So how much elemental bonus a equipment should have to be considered "ok"? Thats my main question, i want to start searching for equipment for when i'm lvl 130~
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post Oct 5 2010, 23:57
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QUOTE(AlexKay @ Oct 5 2010, 17:53) *

I don't think i'm part of the elite club ^^
So how much elemental bonus a equipment should have to be considered "ok"? Thats my main question, i want to start searching for equipment for when i'm lvl 130~

Mid-range equipment usually has about 20.
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post Oct 6 2010, 00:02
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QUOTE(cmal @ Oct 5 2010, 18:57) *

Mid-range equipment usually has about 20.


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post Oct 6 2010, 00:09
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QUOTE(cmal @ Oct 5 2010, 22:49) *

No opinions? It'd be paired with this katana.
Want you want me to say? What a crappy luck you have with wakizashis?
This and this are far better imo.

Actually choosing between your 2 wakizashis, it's more a matter of what you prefer, power vs defense.

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post Oct 6 2010, 00:45
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I was wondering how I know which of the following is better and what kind of weapon is the best

boots

boots 1
boots 2
boots 3
boots 3

Pants

pants 1
pants 2

Chest

Chest 1
Chest 2
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post Oct 6 2010, 00:57
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Boots 1
Pants 1
Chest 2 only for grind (maging style) if you have power to clear rounds with 1 turn that is.
QUOTE(monkey08881 @ Oct 5 2010, 23:45) *

what kind of weapon is the best
What style? 1HS,DW,2H,Staff?

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post Oct 6 2010, 00:59
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2h atm and my magic is really low
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post Oct 6 2010, 01:12
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QUOTE(monkey08881 @ Oct 5 2010, 23:59) *

2h atm and my magic is really low
A Katana. This is one of the best:
QUOTE(cmal @ Oct 5 2010, 22:49) *

No opinions? It'd be paired with this katana.


Edit:If your magic is low, I would stick with the chest 1, but you can find better stuff if you ask for one in WTB sub-forum

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post Oct 6 2010, 01:38
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QUOTE(cmal @ Oct 5 2010, 15:49) *

No opinions? It'd be paired with this katana.


I'd take the old one. It's nicely balanced.
I think the deciding factor in this case is Proc chance. Both Wakizashis have real bad Bleed but the old one has a bad Proc chance too so it won't interfere with your katana bleed as often.
That said if it wasn't for possible bleed interference from your wakizashi I'd be inclined to try the new one for ADM and Crit.
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post Oct 6 2010, 02:00
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QUOTE(cmal @ Oct 5 2010, 14:49) *

No opinions? It'd be paired with this katana.


As with all things, it depends on what your using it for the most, but I'd go with old.

QUOTE(cmal @ Oct 5 2010, 14:57) *

Mid-range equipment usually has about 20.


To expound on this a bit. 20 would be low end for robes IMO, assuming we're talking a baseline level 200 equipment, while 20 would be pretty high end for shoes (if recent auction prices are any judge). Ideally, you should try to get as much as possible wherever possible, but you can pretty easily shoot for 25-30+ robe, 20-25+ pants/cap and around 20 for gloves (level 200 equip). Not going to get into shoes (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif).

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post Oct 6 2010, 04:15
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What shoes would you use of these too?
Level 187 [Average Gossamer Shoes of the Elementalist]
Level 233 [Fair Gossamer Shoes of the Elementalist]

I'm thinking the 187 once its been leveled up. evade is lower but the MAB & Int is better.

Level: 187 -> 250
Magic Accuracy Bonus: 4.49
Physical Absorption: 2.35
Physical Mitigation: 1.69
Magical Absorption: 4.19
Magical Mitigation: 0.65
Evade Chance: 2.03
Resist Chance: 1.64
Burden: 5.29
Elemental Proficiency Bonus: 29.38
AGI: 1.56
INT: 5.46
WIS: 2.34

Level: 233 -> 250
Magic Accuracy Bonus: 2.25
Physical Absorption: 2.74
Physical Mitigation: 0.68
Magical Absorption: 2.51
Magical Mitigation: 1.64
Evade Chance: 2.43
Resist Chance: 3.28
Burden: 5.3
Elemental Proficiency Bonus: 29.37
AGI: 0.78
INT: 1.56
WIS: 3.91

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post Oct 6 2010, 05:15
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QUOTE(4EverLost @ Oct 5 2010, 22:15) *

I'm thinking the 187 once its been leveled up. evade is lower but the MAB & Int is better.

I would go with those.
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post Oct 6 2010, 11:26
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[quote name='cmdct' date='Oct 6 2010, 03:57' post='824147']
No, +5% evade gives the same protection +5% mitigation, and absorption don't help if you're too slow, and that's what happens with heavy gear, plus too many interference also reduces your cure power (like the other spells).
You don't need a spectacular rapier or shield to win this, but they are a lot better the any 2H style for you now.
Rapier gives parry -> protects against physical attacks,
Shield gives block -> protects against all attacks.
cmal has this shield
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which mean that i should look for new rapier and that shield
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'silk set' wasnt it should be used for mage type? and if i change my set, can i get the high level one?(like lv150+ eq or so with at least average quality?) since the burden was one my problem
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post Oct 6 2010, 13:56
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QUOTE(Conquest101 @ Oct 5 2010, 21:00) *

To expound on this a bit. 20 would be low end for robes IMO, assuming we're talking a baseline level 200 equipment, while 20 would be pretty high end for shoes (if recent auction prices are any judge). Ideally, you should try to get as much as possible wherever possible, but you can pretty easily shoot for 25-30+ robe, 20-25+ pants/cap and around 20 for gloves (level 200 equip). Not going to get into shoes (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif).


Thanks, that helped a lot
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