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post Dec 28 2012, 02:14
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What was the recommended order for the last round of T&T arena?

Tree must go down first, Belldandy last, Urd and Skuld in between.

Reason: Tree can casts Absorb and heal, thus annoying. Belldandy's death buff increase her sisters' action speed, thus more chance of 2-shot you in 1 turn.
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post Dec 28 2012, 02:30
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First, read this: http://ehwiki.org/wiki/HentaiVerse_Advice

Second, post your stats and equipments

Third, scout WTS for [Free] shop to start out.
Generic advices:
1. dont mix armor types, stick to one type
2. dont wear specific mitigation suffixes, melee should have Protection suffix
3. dont use any non-slaughter weapon
4. ability points should go into Weaken, Shadow Veil (if Light)/Protection (if Heavy), Haste, Regen, Cure, Item Slots, Aura slots, and rest into HP Tanks and MP Tanks. Spare AP into EXP tanks
5. IWBTH Hourlies
You are pretty much low for your level in GF round progression


I did read the advice page.

What is WTS?

My armor is all light and my estoc is of slaughter.

I put an ability point into haste once, and realized a second spell added an unimaginable level of complexity to my battles, and reorganized immediately. From then on I stuck with cure alone. Rest went into the tanks and slots.

I don't know what IWBTH hourlies are.

All my equipment links are below and a picture of my character page is attatched.

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http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=dbbae5afcf
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=af08a72307
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=b4aa21db10
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=426e9816ac
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post Dec 28 2012, 02:48
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QUOTE(hhunt1987 @ Dec 28 2012, 09:30) *

I did read the advice page.

What is WTS?

here:
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showforum=77

QUOTE(hhunt1987 @ Dec 28 2012, 09:30) *

change to kevlar of protection if you want to keep using light armour and use estoc as weapon. But, you seriously need get some freebies first from WTS. The choice for light armour is kevlar and shade build, don't use leather.
For kevlar build, you need high physical mitigation and you have many available weapon for you to choose.
For shade build, we need evade and the build need stun for survivability. So 2h with mace or DW with club+rapier.

Of course if you want to feel the thrill, you're free to use estoc with shade or even leather armour (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

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post Dec 28 2012, 03:25
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here:
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change to kevlar of protection if you want to keep using light armour and use estoc as weapon. But, you seriously need get some freebies first from WTS. The choice for light armour is kevlar and shade build, don't use leather.
For kevlar build, you need high physical mitigation and you have many available weapon for you to choose.
For shade build, we need evade and the build need stun for survivability. So 2h with mace or DW with club+rapier.

Of course if you want to feel the thrill, you're free to use estoc with shade or even leather armour (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


Ok, I was using leather b/c that's what I got from drops. I'm getting Kevlar stuff of protection now. Thank you.

Also, is it really ok for me to just use cure? Should I get used to using haste, weaken, and shadow veil? It seems like my mana would get eaten up so much faster using those.

Also, IWBTH hourlies?

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post Dec 28 2012, 03:46
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QUOTE(hhunt1987 @ Dec 28 2012, 03:25) *

Ok, I was using leather b/c that's what I got from drops. I'm getting Kevlar stuff of protection now. Thank you.

Also, is it really ok for me to just use cure? Should I get used to using haste, weaken, and shadow veil? It seems like my mana would get eaten up so much faster using those.

Also, IWBTH hourlies?

Shadow Veil is the main spell for Shade, Protection for Kevlar. You will need Haste, Weaken, Silence later on, since Light armor users are fragile. Dont worry, you will have more mana than you need at higher level. For now, stick with Shadow Veil/Protection and Haste, plus Cure (switch to Regen when you unlock it) Cast weaken on bosses and strong Giants

Having Shadow Veil/Protection buff on is essential since it means you will use Cure less often. Haste make you go faster than monsters or even attack twice, therefore less damage taken. While there is nothing wrong with using Cure, Health potion is better since they have higher duration (Godly Health can go 50 turns), and Cure is more of an "emergency" spell.

As for weapon, DW (Dual Wield) is most ideal choice, followed by Mace. Estoc is too risky. You can look for the freebies in the WTS. For armor, while Protection Kevlar is fine, but if you have mana problem (which is common among newbies), I suggest you mix an Arcanist Shade or two to lessen the load (or at least use Mana potions)

IWBTH is the highest difficulty, Hourlies is the Random Encounter you get from main site/gallery once every hour (for more info, look in the wiki). So far, it has best in exp/credit/loot per round than Grindfest/Arena.

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post Dec 28 2012, 03:47
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QUOTE(hhunt1987 @ Dec 28 2012, 10:25) *

Ok, I was using leather b/c that's what I got from drops. I'm getting Kevlar stuff of protection now. Thank you.

Also, is it really ok for me to just use cure? Should I get used to using haste, weaken, and shadow veil? It seems like my mana would get eaten up so much faster using those.

Also, IWBTH hourlies?

Use regen after you get it instead of cure. Haste+weaken=optional, shadow veil is a must for shade user. As I'm not really kevlar user, maybe using protection instead of shadow veil? Try to ask kevlar user like evil scorpio.
IWBTH hourlies=Random Encounter with difficulty set to IWBTH
http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Random_Encounter
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post Dec 28 2012, 04:04
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Got it, mostly. How is estoc risky?
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post Dec 28 2012, 04:12
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QUOTE(hhunt1987 @ Dec 27 2012, 21:04) *

Got it, mostly. How is estoc risky?


It's not risky once you unlock spark of life at level 100, but because of the low defenses of light armor, if you're unlucky, monster attacks can easily eat through your hp, so the stun from mace is helpful in letting you hold down number pad without worry. Estoc is viable, but you would need to keep spark up constantly, and use cure a lot. For kevlar, estoc is good because you have moderately high defenses from the gear survive without stun
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post Dec 28 2012, 04:30
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Ok I just got brutalized by a IWBTH hourly, will switch to mace asap, and get protection and haste spells. Thanks for the help.
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post Dec 28 2012, 05:06
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QUOTE(hhunt1987 @ Dec 27 2012, 21:30) *

Ok I just got brutalized by a IWBTH hourly, will switch to mace asap, and get protection and haste spells. Thanks for the help.


Try to:

-weaken every monster
-keep up every buff (protection, haste and even shadow veil)
-spam godly health and mana potions whenever you're low
-use a mace until level 100-150

for hourlies.
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post Dec 28 2012, 05:39
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QUOTE(HigherMakoto @ Dec 27 2012, 15:59) *

I guess if I stick to Heroic IW it's fairly reliable.

we talking normal stamina, doing magnificent? honestly i think you can do more. I IWed my magni estoc w/ a scythe on nintendo (in my 220s) and that was a nightmare, but i could do it. Find a good estoc shard it, wear full plate/high pmi / end stuff, use scrolls when just spell buffs no longer cut it, and cast spark of life in last 10 - 20 rounds.

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post Dec 28 2012, 08:08
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QUOTE(etothex @ Dec 27 2012, 22:39) *

we talking normal stamina, doing magnificent? honestly i think you can do more. I IWed my magni estoc w/ a scythe on nintendo (in my 220s) and that was a nightmare, but i could do it. Find a good estoc shard it, wear full plate/high pmi / end stuff, use scrolls when just spell buffs no longer cut it, and cast spark of life in last 10 - 20 rounds.


I only play on great stamina. If I go lower, aside from losing the buff, I feel like I'm playing this game too much.
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post Dec 28 2012, 08:28
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lol i feel the same, but i also feel it's a waste to do IW on great, so i end up not doing any at all (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif). Mostly just farming some tokens now. I really should do some runs on my estoc though, but it's a bitch trying to get it w/o endurance taking up all the potency levels. Have already reset it 2 times.

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post Dec 28 2012, 08:29
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QUOTE(hhunt1987 @ Dec 27 2012, 22:30) *

Ok I just got brutalized by a IWBTH hourly, will switch to mace asap, and get protection and haste spells. Thanks for the help.


IWBTH Hourlies are actually a hell of a lot harder for sub-100 players than they were before 0.72 thanks to the adjustment to your level for determining monster PL at IWBTH (i.e., he's treated as level 116 to determine PL, which means PL 171s).

If adding Stun to the mix doesn't help enough, don't be afraid to do BT instead, and don't be afraid to burn cheaper consumables like Health pots or Elemental Infusions (even some of the cheap scrolls can be worth it if they secure victory). You'll make back the credits from the drops (Godly Pots seriously drop like rain at IWBTH) and the IWBTH credit multiplier.

The reward for clearing IWBTH Hourlies is huge, but you don't get it if you can't clear the fight. I think it's like an x5 XP mod on top of the x25 for IWBTH, for 125x the XP per mob you'd get at Normal in an Arena. Once you have Spark with 3+ AP in it, it's always IWBTH for REs.

On that note, I need to go feed Internet Explorer 6 some more Chaos Tokens. You'll meet him in a few levels or so on IWBTH. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post Dec 28 2012, 09:31
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QUOTE(PK678353 @ Dec 28 2012, 14:29) *

IWBTH Hourlies are actually a hell of a lot harder for sub-100 players than they were before 0.72 thanks to the adjustment to your level for determining monster PL at IWBTH (i.e., he's treated as level 116 to determine PL, which means PL 171s).

If adding Stun to the mix doesn't help enough, don't be afraid to do BT instead, and don't be afraid to burn cheaper consumables like Health pots or Elemental Infusions (even some of the cheap scrolls can be worth it if they secure victory). You'll make back the credits from the drops (Godly Pots seriously drop like rain at IWBTH) and the IWBTH credit multiplier.

The reward for clearing IWBTH Hourlies is huge, but you don't get it if you can't clear the fight. I think it's like an x5 XP mod on top of the x25 for IWBTH, for 125x the XP per mob you'd get at Normal in an Arena.

On that note, I need to go feed Internet Explorer 6 some more Chaos Tokens. You'll meet him in a few levels or so on IWBTH. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

i got slaughter couple time in IWBTH hourlies (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
now i just use battletoads for random encounter (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Dec 28 2012, 09:46
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i got slaughter couple time in IWBTH hourlies (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
now i just use battletoads for random encounter (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


You have Spark of Life now, definitely try IWBTH again. Might take some tactics adjustments, but you should be able to win that at the cost of some pots (several if you die a lot and need to restock Spirit). That XP multiplier is definitely worth it, especially with the bonus you get from high PL monsters. I almost feel cheated when I accidentally do a 10 mob RE on BT or below, that's like 1/6th of a level slipping through my fingers.

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post Dec 28 2012, 13:31
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Burn every potion you have to to complete IWBTH hourlies. If you don't have godly potions, ask someone for them. You will save so much time its insane.

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@PK678 & arxdewn

my main problem is that my SP always empty even with SP potion coz spark of life consume alot of SP (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

btw , I have very low deprecating mag prof (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Dec 28 2012, 14:54
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Yeah considering the normal xp I get from hourlies, a single IWBTH one would level me up. Unfortunately the monsters hit for almost 1/4 my hp normal attacks, and mana attacks do 3/4ths. Any crit would just end me instantly lol.



Ok Just did an hourly on nintendo, planning to work my way up.

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I don't think spark will trigger on hourlies much, and it would have to trigger 3 times if you aren't using spirit for anything else. Just keep your hp and mp up with the potions, keep up all buffs, and use weaken on the hardest ones. If you still run out of potions, train pack rat for more.
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