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Dec 17 2012, 09:21
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PK678353
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Ether Theft becomes more viable once you have access to Staves with good chance and 2-3 turn duration. I don't think any staves scale to 3 turns before level 160, and your CM chance is going to suck at your level anyway.
I tend to ET stragglers, particularly if I know they're Elementals (you get more MP from monsters with high INT/WIS scores, and Elementals have high base WIS). Since there's only one left, you can Weaken them and beat the mana out of them to your heart's content (admittedly, maxed CM chance helps a lot there since it makes Weaken spam a viable means of getting CM for ET).
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Dec 17 2012, 09:45
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HigherMakoto
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Eh, I don't think I'm ready to IW a magnificent weapon.
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Dec 17 2012, 11:09
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Lement
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Honestly, at 2k a pop, unless you're IWing for butcher and swift(which are great, btw) the cost of voidseekers is comparable scale to Iwing if you do it for a whole year.
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Dec 17 2012, 11:16
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etothex
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QUOTE(HigherMakoto @ Dec 16 2012, 23:45)  Eh, I don't think I'm ready to IW a magnificent weapon.
if you're going w/ full plate you should be good for like up to hell at least w/ magni 170-180 rounds. Worth it, and simple enough to do first 2 or 3 or 5 potencies just for a shot of swift strike or butcher. Just to get the 1st level potency you can probably do it on heroic and get enough pxp. This post has been edited by etothex: Dec 17 2012, 11:16
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Dec 17 2012, 14:09
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HigherMakoto
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QUOTE(etothex @ Dec 17 2012, 04:16)  if you're going w/ full plate you should be good for like up to hell at least w/ magni 170-180 rounds. Worth it, and simple enough to do first 2 or 3 or 5 potencies just for a shot of swift strike or butcher. Just to get the 1st level potency you can probably do it on heroic and get enough pxp.
Worth it even for a vanilla weapon? Seems like such a huge time investment for a no frills weapon.
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Dec 17 2012, 17:35
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Lement
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IW costs are exponential. 2 runs, 3 runs, 4 runs, 5 runs....Performing 200 rounds single time or ten even is far different than doing it sth close to hundred times. As for worth it, idk.
Anyway, though it is an estoc you'll replace eventually 2h's don't suffer horribly for lacking an elemental strike, you'll just have to plan your skills differently.
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Dec 17 2012, 20:35
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Bonebuster
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Correct me if Im wrong.
I was wondering which potions are better and cheaper to use to restore the hp or mana after the battle (im not talking about in a battle).
Mana Lesser potion : You get 0.4(=40%) base points for 20c if u buy it Mana Avarage potion: 0.5 base points for 35c Mana Greater: 0.6 base points for 50c and so on
So lets say u want to recover 3.0 (300%) base points that would mean:
Lesser: 20*7.5=150c --->> 7.5 because 7.5 * 0.4 =3.0 150c to recover 300% Avarage:35*6=210c Greater:50*5=250c
So this would mean its much better to buy more lesser potions(same with health potions) or am I wrong?
This post has been edited by Bonebuster: Dec 17 2012, 20:41
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Dec 17 2012, 21:14
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Temchy
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QUOTE(Bonebuster @ Dec 17 2012, 19:35)  So this would mean its much better to buy more lesser potions(same with health potions) or am I wrong?
Yea.. and no. If you need to buy pots and buy them from the item shop you're correct. (do you still need to buy them? I think I find like several times more potions than I actually use) That's why the out of combat healing pretty much always uses the lowest potions first. However, you could easily buy godlies from other players for 25-30c per and be way better off. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Dec 17 2012, 21:18
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etothex
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QUOTE(HigherMakoto @ Dec 17 2012, 04:09)  Worth it even for a vanilla weapon? Seems like such a huge time investment for a no frills weapon.
As i said do it just for the 1st swift strike or butcher, beyond that who knows. 1 heroic run is hardly trouble. QUOTE(Bonebuster @ Dec 17 2012, 10:35)  Correct me if Im wrong.
I was wondering which potions are better and cheaper to use to restore the hp or mana after the battle (im not talking about in a battle).
Not buying potions is the correct answer. Anything less than godly in your stock of mana potions is a throwaway, and if you're doing Hourlies on IWBTH, and a couple arenas on higher diff, you should have more than enough. Also don't buy from bazaar.
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Dec 17 2012, 21:35
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Bonebuster
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Ok first of all thanks for the answers. QUOTE(Temchy @ Dec 17 2012, 20:14)  However, you could easily buy godlies from other players for 25-30c per and be way better off. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) O.o didnt know that where do i buy them? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Edit: Ok found it I always thought that the shop was only for equipment ... how stupid of me QUOTE(etothex @ Dec 17 2012, 20:18)  Anything less than godly in your stock of mana potions is a throwaway, and if you're doing Hourlies on IWBTH, and a couple arenas on higher diff, you should have more than enough. Also don't buy from bazaar.
Dont know how much is enough ^^ i have over 500 godly mana potions and aorund 800 Health potions(is there even a limit???) but the number decreased lately because Im trying to complete all of the arenas on IWBTH now . Means im using around 10 mana potions per arena. This post has been edited by Bonebuster: Dec 17 2012, 21:42
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Dec 17 2012, 21:45
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varst
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QUOTE(Bonebuster @ Dec 18 2012, 03:35)  O.o didnt know that where do i buy them? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Dont know how much is enough ^^ i have over 500 godly mana potions and aorund 800 Health potions(is there even a limit???) but the number decreased lately because Im trying to complete all of the arenas on IWBTH now . Means im using around 10 mana potions per arena. You can get godly mana potions at around 40 credits each in WTS. I've just seen a shop selling 2000 godly mana potions at 38 credits each. Eventually you will get more potions with better drop training/from high PL monsters after lv.200. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Dec 17 2012, 22:34
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etothex
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QUOTE(Bonebuster @ Dec 17 2012, 11:35)  Ok first of all thanks for the answers. O.o didnt know that where do i buy them? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Edit: Ok found it I always thought that the shop was only for equipment ... how stupid of me Dont know how much is enough ^^ i have over 500 godly mana potions and aorund 800 Health potions(is there even a limit???) but the number decreased lately because Im trying to complete all of the arenas on IWBTH now . Means im using around 10 mana potions per arena. probably easier to post a wtb. week ago or so someone unloaded godly healths for 10. if you dont have enough potions, and it's a general problem, maybe get your drop training (scavenger) up a bit? This post has been edited by etothex: Dec 17 2012, 22:43
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Dec 17 2012, 23:49
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Bonebuster
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Nah its not a really problem^^ And thanks for your offer but I think I will wait at first and see if I really need to buy more mana/health potions. But what I really need is to train scavanger more (currently only 14/50). I spend too many credits for assimilator (4/10) and archaeologist (5/10) lately. I think its time to train something else.
This post has been edited by Bonebuster: Dec 17 2012, 23:54
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Dec 18 2012, 00:41
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losernyeo
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Pack Rat is pretty high priority if you haven't finished that. I have 40-something points in ability boost and I still don't have enough XD
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Dec 18 2012, 02:04
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Herp in your Derp
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Does stamina's bonus affect an item's pxp gain?
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Dec 18 2012, 02:04
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Bonebuster
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QUOTE(Herp in your Derp @ Dec 18 2012, 01:04)  Does stamina's bonus affect an item's pxp gain?
Yep "Players cannot gain any PXP if they are at "exhausted" stamina. " found hereQUOTE(losernyeo @ Dec 17 2012, 23:41)  Pack Rat is pretty high priority if you haven't finished that. I have 40-something points in ability boost and I still don't have enough XD
I have 3/5 pack rat and 54 ability points^^ This post has been edited by Bonebuster: Dec 18 2012, 02:08
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Dec 18 2012, 02:09
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losernyeo
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QUOTE(Herp in your Derp @ Dec 17 2012, 18:04)  Does stamina's bonus affect an item's pxp gain?
Not unless you are below 10, at which point you won't get any. QUOTE(Bonebuster @ Dec 17 2012, 18:04)  I ahve 3/5 pack rat and 54 ability points^^
You should seriously consider finishing pack rat.
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Dec 18 2012, 02:12
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Bonebuster
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I dont think it wont change anything for me at the moment if its 1 or 2 more slots. But ofc, I will train that too before I reach lv 200 but at first I will train scavenger a little bit maybe 3-5 points.
This post has been edited by Bonebuster: Dec 18 2012, 02:34
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Dec 18 2012, 02:12
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Bonebuster
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Huh? why double post... sry
This post has been edited by Bonebuster: Dec 18 2012, 02:34
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Dec 18 2012, 05:21
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lostisa
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