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Meh, I got so lazy I don't use deprecating at all now, and never got my spirit to even half by FSM using spirit shield or had to cast cure ever.

@losernyeo
How long does hard IW take for exquisite? I've been leveling a superior estoc and its 10-15 minutes per run on BT with a mace and shade armor. Maybe you should just level a bit times or so before trying IW?

ggyy
All of them(except maybe feet). I'm serious. irvin's shop has decent free plate of protection gear you can pick up. Ignore all plate armor that doesn't end in "of protection" unless it's at least exquisite. Also look for a slaughter weapon, preferably scythe or mace until level 150 or something, then switch to estoc.

This post has been edited by fishinsea: Dec 14 2012, 03:59

finally got 3 blood tokens again, last time I fought him, I used too much of that auto revive magic without understanding that it drains my spirit bar... so this time I should be fine, but I still have some questions.

along the way I found these weapons, I intend to use dual wielding to take on him, but I am not sure what I should use on my main and sub hand

for my main hand
fine astral axe of slaughter
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=ef410853f4
superior shocking club of vampire
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=84b1e7b865
fine ethereal club of balance
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=7166a09e36

which one is the most effective?

for my sub hand, I mainly just use this, I probably have other better parrying weapon, but they are not rapiers
superior ethereal rapier of balance
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=127a53fd1e

axe if heavy, ethereal club if light, won't be problem with either if you play on normal and keep up silence and weaken and don't use iris strike. In all, it probably won't matter, if playing on higher diff, I'd go with the club cause perma-stun is awesome.

My concern is who blew a slaughter binding in a balance rapier!?

This post has been edited by fishinsea: Dec 14 2012, 04:14

wait, I shouldn't bind the rapier like that? it was my 1st ethereal weapon at the time and I didn't know what to upgrade it with, so I pretty much put everything on it lol...

wait, I shouldn't bind the rapier like that? it was my 1st ethereal weapon at the time and I didn't know what to upgrade it with, so I pretty much put everything on it lol...

It's not so much that it's a bad idea to upgrade your weapons as that you're spending a 60k+ binding plus the metals on a 25-50k Rapier. Those Bindings of Slaughter are rare as hell and usually reserved for top-of-the-line weapons that can benefit most from them. Certainly not a bad rapier outside the abysmal proc time (in fact, I'd be surprised if you had a much better offhand weapon), just not one we'd usually use resources that valuable on upgrading. I haven't even thrown any Destruction bindings (which are cheaper to boot) at my Staff yet.

This post has been edited by PK678353: Dec 14 2012, 04:39

holy shit I just beat him on normal without even using items or weaken, just silence and spam the same stuff I normally do

I'm enamored with this idea of maging for low difficulty fests. Obviously I don't intend to do crysfests as I've no crystarium but let's say I wanted to mage an exquisite IW on easy. Would I need stellar gear to 1 shot the rounds or could I manage with say 2-300k worth of equipment and 0 prof? Because doing it with an estoc is driving me nuts and I sometimes even fail on hard (/shame).

Not sure tbh. I blaze through my Staff on Easy with about 120% Cold EDB and 180 Effective Elemental prof (150/195 with the Nif staff), one-shotting 90%+ of rounds with Blizzard (Tier 2) + Arcane Focus + Geat Stamina (if I wanted to do it on Normal Stamia I'd just spam Fimbulvetr instead). With my Staff I'd probably one-shot almost any round where they don't resist a spell. That's definitely not 200k worth of gear though, every piece of Nif I'm using is worth 100k or more, plus a Mag Focus Staff (which is cheap), or my Leg Niflheim (500k+)

Without prof, it's not gonna happen, you'll end up two-shotting most rounds even with T3 AoEs. I'm pretty sure the mana consumption for T4 is prohibitive in cheap (Fenrir!) phase without a good Focus/Economizer staff, especially since cheap non-troll Fenrir is hard to come by.

Now, once you hit about say 100 prof, you should be able to one-shot most rounds on Easy with inexpensive gear. I can lend you some decent Cold gear for a bit if you'd like to try Elemental, I've got a spare of at least Exquisite for every slot and an Ex Arctic Elementalist and Destruction staves (Elementalist is best when you have low prof, Destruction later, I still use the Nif staff because I can't find/afford a Destruction on par with it).

This post has been edited by PK678353: Dec 14 2012, 05:03

losernyeo: Low 100s - maybe. You can probably put together elemental phase gear that will fail to ohko rounds mostly due resists, not lack of damage with that - I expect most of the money would go on staff. But you most certainly need the proficiencies - put it together, then do low difficulty arenas or sth for a time so you won't need to heal often due failing to oneshot at the end. EDIT: To add to the above: Mana cost shouldn't be prohibitive for sure I believe, but fenrir cost sure is.

Temchy: I apply weaken, slow and imperil (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

This post has been edited by Lement: Dec 14 2012, 04:55

Are you not supposed to use Spark of Life and Spirit Shield together?

Only for last few rounds of IW and maybe arena. SS itself is usually enough but if you have extra mana why not; added insurance.

ggyy
]All of them(except maybe feet). I'm serious. irvin's shop has decent free plate of protection gear you can pick up. Ignore all plate armor that doesn't end in "of protection" unless it's at least exquisite. Also look for a slaughter weapon, preferably scythe or mace until level 150 or something, then switch to estoc.

wow
btw, thanks for advice (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

quick question on monster's PL and encounter rate
For above lv200 players, do the high PL monsters have high chance of appearing?
I noted that the same batch of super powered monsters always appear every 5 or 6 rounds whereas at below 200, there seemed to be a much greater variety to enemies.

HigherMakoto: They cover similar niches(not being horribly killed by skill), but spark can cover you from dying to several monsters hitting you with skills while spirit shield uses less SP per horrible death prevention, plus interrupts Regen II maintaining your HP less. You can use both of them but you should prefer the variant that uses less SP while preventing you from dying.
arashai: Yeah.

This post has been edited by Lement: Dec 14 2012, 05:37

quick question on monster's PL and encounter rate
For above lv200 players, do the high PL monsters have high chance of appearing?
I noted that the same batch of super powered monsters always appear every 5 or 6 rounds whereas at below 200, there seemed to be a much greater variety to enemies.

Yes, the system is biased toward picking higher PL monsters, but you wont see them show up more than once between 10 rounds.

Perhaps you are seening those Turtles and Ouzai armies? They are created by rich players who have too much crystals

Yes, the system is biased toward picking higher PL monsters, but you wont see them show up more than once between 10 rounds.

Perhaps you are seening those Turtles and Ouzai armies? They are created by rich players who have too much crystals

thanks for answering. I think i faced 7 different Ouzai's at the same time once and had to facepalm XD

@losernyeo How long does hard IW take for exquisite? I've been leveling a superior estoc and its 10-15 minutes per run on BT with a mace and shade armor. Maybe you should just level a bit times or so before trying IW?

The problem with hard for me is that I run out of mana because I take too long to clear the rounds. My damage is kind of sucky, I'm looking at 64% PMI 3000 damage right now. Maybe if no one ever parried me, but you know how that is. If I maced it that would probably do the trick because I'd save mana hugely on intermittent cures, but I don't have a mace and don't want to buy one.

Ok, IWBTH FSM as you were saying is just a lot of health, apparently 47 deprecating is a lot because I failed maybe 1 curse-weave with 3 debuffs consistently (PA, silence, weaken). Used up all my infusions of divinity though, and got owned by the drops and noodly shrine. Oh well. I'll get a Mag Power Armor of Slaughter next time, mark my words.

Thanks to PK and lement for magery tips, but let me make sure I have it right. The gist is: get the gear, grind prof somewhere, try it with 100 prof and T4 spells. Elemental phase will save me money, especially if I go with fimbulvetr and borrow gear from PK. Fenrir phase will kick ass with ragnarok but eat my wallet alive. About this resisting problem, if I have a focus staff and stick SoL in IA, then I won't have to worry about getting raped in later rounds if I fail a OHKO? Sound about right?

PA doesn't count as a debuff btw. If you look to grind spell profs, 2 1h battlecaster weapons are ideal.

I don't see any problems with damage though, I have 3100 with a full plate set and fine demonic estoc and can clear rounds in 10 turns consistantly. I would suggest 10 more levels and then you should be crusing through nintendo at least.

This post has been edited by fishinsea: Dec 14 2012, 07:35

Roughly. T4 is only available in Dark though (Fimbulvetr is T3). You'll also want the secondary element to proc the Explosion, but that can be T1 to save mana (I usually do Fimbulvetr->Cyclone, alternatively Fimbulvetr->Thunderstorm if I know the survivors are Mechs).

Once you've hit later rounds the damage multipliers do start to be an issue, but even with the crappy defense of midrange Phase (~20% evade + ~30% PMI + SV), you're still on Easy. It'll feel like IWBTH since you're used to 65% PMI, but I don't actually start to proc Spark unless I'm running my Staff on Heroic or Nightmare.

Easy IW is as good a place as any to grind prof, that Estoc is only Exquisite, not Legendary, so you won't be spending nearly as much time in the red zone where an unlucky round can proc Spark (I'm not sure there even is a red zone on Easy). You'll still be wiping half the round with your opening attack. Besides, an Elementalist Staff will get you most of the way to the prof you need anyway (100 isn't special the way it is for melee with skills, I picked that number fairly arbitrarily).

Sadly, there's nothing we can do about resists right now except swear at them and recast. The reason I've been using Focus Ebony is for MC, not accuracy/counter-evade

This post has been edited by PK678353: Dec 14 2012, 07:45

Ok sounds cool. I'll do some shopping around. I really want to run with fenrir or even heimdall if possible but then I'd have a second set of profs to worry about for explosions and I don't have too much money to blow on gear. My respecs are still dirt cheap so I can spare 30% OC and go with fimbulvetr cyclone arcane focus. Assuming I need 5AP in my explosion proc skill.

@Fishinsea well the thing is you have that much damage with full plate, so your PMI is probably considerably higher than mine. Still, it might be a good idea to focus on leveling. I can get 2 or 3 levels per day running nintendo on TWT and going down. I actually get pretty far, 80-90 rounds on 100/95-round arenas and ~75 rounds on the 90 round arena. And it takes like half an hour to do the 3 runs. I've been doing those on great and then IWing in normal down to ~72 stamina so I can rinse repeat the next day.

This post has been edited by losernyeo: Dec 14 2012, 07:46

Actually you're more than halfway done already (holy crap) so might as well go finish it and get some profs on the way.

Lol my heavy prof is 30, PMI is 71.

This post has been edited by fishinsea: Dec 14 2012, 07:54