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Dec 8 2012, 15:25
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varst
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QUOTE(Htnax @ Dec 8 2012, 07:42)  If so, those cost extrapolations are incorrect, as they assume a gain of exactly 25/75 in all stats as appropriate and are unaffected by monster class.
Well, the approximate amount of crystals from -75 to 75 elemental resistance is around the magnitude of 10^16 (there's no typo), but I think that number should scare most of the stupid players who want to make 1000 PL monsters and conquer the world screw themselves up....oh wait.... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) QUOTE(lemonmerchant @ Dec 8 2012, 13:06)  No one ever did answer my questions about proficiencies: should I worry about grinding them at my level, given that they're 1/3rd of my level at best? When does one need to worry about prof grinding?
Well....the one you should worry a bit at around lv. 100~110 is deprecating prof, which is useful against gods when you need to have tons of debuff on. But something like 50%-75% and some careful debuff choice should be enough. Others should come naturally. This post has been edited by varst: Dec 8 2012, 15:26
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Dec 8 2012, 19:03
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fishinsea
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Lolwut?
12 10 You have been defeated. 12 9 Noihara Himari has been defeated. 12 8 Bleeding Wound hits Noihara Himari for 729 damage. 12 7 Noihara Himari hits you for 1219 piercing damage. 12 6 Bleeding Wound hits Noihara Himari for 729 damage. 12 5 Nekomusume Mode hits you for 5556 piercing damage. 12 4 Noihara Himari uses Nekomusume Mode 12 3 Noihara Himari gains the effect Bleeding Wound. 12 2 Holy Strike crits Noihara Himari for 653 holy damage. 12 1 You crit Noihara Himari for 2729 slashing damage. ... 1 1 You cast Weaken. 0 2 Spawned Monster A: MID=10466 (Noihara Himari) LV=247 HP=62470 0 1 Initializing arena challenge #2 (Round 1 / 2) ... 0 0 Battle Start!
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Dec 8 2012, 19:06
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Lement
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Wasn't it supposed to get better few dozen levels after 200?
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Dec 8 2012, 19:10
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T_Starrk
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QUOTE(fishinsea @ Dec 8 2012, 08:03) 
12 1 You crit Noihara Himari for 2729 slashing damage.
Slashing damage? You using a scythe or something now?
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Dec 8 2012, 19:23
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Temchy
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QUOTE(fishinsea @ Dec 8 2012, 18:03)  Lolwut?
Well, you died first, better use SS next time! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Dec 8 2012, 19:35
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Maximum_Joe
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So which to do next? - Scavenger - Save up a bit for LotD and QM - Save up a lot for Arch
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Dec 8 2012, 19:43
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varst
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QUOTE(Maximum_Joe @ Dec 9 2012, 01:35)  So which to do next? - Scavenger - Save up a bit for LotD and QM - Save up a lot for Arch
Probably set collector (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Meh....raise them evenly, or put more effort in LotD if you play tons of IWBTH
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Dec 8 2012, 19:44
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Maximum_Joe
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I do play a fair bit of IWBTH now... try for 2 LotD or just 1 and save for something else?
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Dec 8 2012, 19:50
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Coma
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QUOTE(Maximum_Joe @ Dec 8 2012, 19:44)  I do play a fair bit of IWBTH now... try for 2 LotD or just 1 and save for something else?
I suggest Quartermaster, so you can sell more Average than Fair or Crude
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Dec 8 2012, 19:52
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Lement
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At that point, those things won't be likely paying for themselves, Coma.
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Dec 8 2012, 19:54
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Coma
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QUOTE(Lement @ Dec 8 2012, 19:52)  At that point, those things won't be likely paying for themselves, Coma.
These trainings never intended to pay themselves in short run.
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Dec 8 2012, 19:54
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Lement
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I mean in the years to come.
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Dec 8 2012, 20:12
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varst
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QUOTE(Maximum_Joe @ Dec 9 2012, 01:44)  I do play a fair bit of IWBTH now... try for 2 LotD or just 1 and save for something else?
The recent route I've seen is like: Scavenger ~ 35-40, QM ~ 12 - 15, then push LotD to max, hoping that you'll get enough good drops to cover the cost.
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Dec 8 2012, 20:15
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fishinsea
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I highly doubt +5% base equipment drop chance is gonna pay off 700k in less than a year or so. LotD is the only thing that seems like it might cover its cost if you get lucky with a legendary phase or something. Thought I'd try heavy axe+ rapier in the 1 round arena, so i skimped on spirit shield. Fuck it says he died first though... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) This post has been edited by fishinsea: Dec 8 2012, 20:16
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Dec 8 2012, 20:21
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Maximum_Joe
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Going for LotD x2 then, thanks.
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Dec 8 2012, 21:29
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T_Starrk
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QUOTE(fishinsea @ Dec 8 2012, 09:15)  he died first though... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Himari is a she (well, catgirl to exact). This post has been edited by T_Starrk: Dec 8 2012, 21:29
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Dec 8 2012, 22:36
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Hoheneim
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QUOTE(fishinsea @ Dec 8 2012, 19:15)  Fuck it says he died first though... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) It doesn't really matter who went down "first", it happened during the same turn: it's a double KO, you lose either way.
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Dec 9 2012, 00:21
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hehsy5sy5
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Does anyone know why my equipment is all still at level 0, 0 exp? I had the same equipment on for like 50+ levels...
It said that most of my equipment was very close to leveling when the patch first came out, then I unequipped the set I'm using right now for another set, and ever since then my original set of equipment including my sword has been at lvl 0, 0 exp and doesn't budge. I asked in the patch thread(this happened like 1 day after the patch for equipment level/exp) and I think tenburo said that it was a visualization glitch(that my equipment had levels/exp but I just can't see it) but now I'm not so sure cause it's been a very long time and many levels since then and nothing's still happening.
Thanks
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Dec 9 2012, 00:30
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Temchy
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QUOTE(hehsy5sy5 @ Dec 8 2012, 23:21)  Does anyone know why my equipment is all still at level 0, 0 exp? I had the same equipment on for like 50+ levels...
It said that most of my equipment was very close to leveling when the patch first came out, then I unequipped the set I'm using right now for another set, and ever since then my original set of equipment including my sword has been at lvl 0, 0 exp and doesn't budge. I asked in the patch thread(this happened like 1 day after the patch for equipment level/exp) and I think tenburo said that it was a visualization glitch(that my equipment had levels/exp but I just can't see it) but now I'm not so sure cause it's been a very long time and many levels since then and nothing's still happening.
Thanks
Your equip only gains exp through IW or forging it. The visual glitch was that it showed the old -now removed- item level as current exp.
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Dec 9 2012, 00:43
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hehsy5sy5
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QUOTE(Temchy @ Dec 8 2012, 14:30)  Your equip only gains exp through IW or forging it. The visual glitch was that it showed the old -now removed- item level as current exp.
Ahh I see. So I was under the impression it levels whenever you fight, but it's only leveled up through item world/forge huh. Okay thanks.
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