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post Dec 6 2012, 04:44
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QUOTE(Mantra64 @ Dec 5 2012, 17:15) *

Do the Tier affiliation have an influence on the quality of the equipment drops?

No.
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post Dec 6 2012, 04:57
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QUOTE(The Evil Phoenix @ Dec 6 2012, 04:14) *

Okay, so this is my equipment. But at level 100, i'm not certain this equipment is... worthy... of me fighting at Level 100 Heroic (or harder).. (basically, i'm getting much more damage from weakling enemies than i should be with this armor)

I am trying to hit hard and hit fast, while having some substantial level of survivability.

Anyone got any suggestions for better armor? (I don't need freebies, with 12 hath per day i can get a lot of credits fast by selling my hath, so any armor that is suggested, and more importantly any WTS threads with such decent armor that you could link me to, I can obtain likely within a few days)
Current outfit of armor:
Fine Power Gauntlets of Protection (Hands - Heavy Armor)
Superior Plate Cuirass of Protection (Body - Heavy Armor)
Superior Plate Greaves of Protection (Legs - Heavy Armor)
Superior Plate Helmet of Protection (Head - Heavy Armor)
Superior Plate Sabatons of Protection (Feet - Heavy Armor)

Your armor is fine, though you could look for exquisite or above Power for ADB. Until you get Spark, it is not worth doing IWBTH

You should keep Protection and Regen up. Try getting Ethereal Estoc of Slaughter if you can afford it.

I got two armors in my shop, see if you are interested

How much upload you have when you applied for H@H?

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post Dec 6 2012, 05:09
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Equips are fine for that level, if you want better survivabillity, get plate of protection with better END and physical mitigation. Power of protection without end is not great.

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=b6e5f46e28
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=2e7c766fba
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=07b98af3f2

around 100k in total

If you want more damage, exquisite power protection with decent mit, damage, str and end are around 50-100k. Power slaughter is in the millions and rarely being sold; there are occasional ones in auctions.

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post Dec 6 2012, 05:32
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the final battle of T&T-normal isn't hard at all, but getting there without running out of mana can be a problem.
if you ran out take more pots into battle
try to ET if needed
use lower tier/cost spells at the start
try and get CM so your next spell costs less


ET? CM? What?
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post Dec 6 2012, 05:37
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QUOTE(Coma @ Dec 5 2012, 21:57) *

Your armor is fine, though you could look for exquisite or above Power for ADB. Until you get Spark, it is not worth doing IWBTH

You should keep Protection and Regen up. Try getting Ethereal Estoc of Slaughter if you can afford it.

I got two armors in my shop, see if you are interested

How much upload you have when you applied for H@H?

I've got 4 H@H clients, one netbook, one server on a lower-class networking speed, and two VMs. Each client ~400KB/s to ~600KB/s (to avoid BW capping), so each averages ~3.08 Hath per day, one of them's got a 5 month uptime so it gets ~3.22 HPD.

This is my current blade, should I be replacing this with an Ethereal Estoc of Slaughter, given this weapon? Magnificent Arctic Katana of Slaughter (it may be a Katana, but I do ~1000 - ~1500 damage per hit, and it *is* max IW)

QUOTE(fishinsea @ Dec 5 2012, 22:09) *

Equips are fine for that level, if you want better survivabillity, get plate of protection with better END and physical mitigation. Power of protection without end is not great.

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=b6e5f46e28
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=2e7c766fba
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=07b98af3f2

around 100k in total


Unfortunately right now, I owe a debt of Hath to a few people (totaling ~50 hath with all the debts), it'll take me a few more days to pay that off before I get some profits (once I do, you'll see me showing up (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)). Again, with Damage being my goal, what is your take on the equipment which Coma linked? Any of it decent for my goals?

Or, does anyone have any additional suggestions? (also, free Godly Healths and Godly Manas, in huge quantities'd be nice.)

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post Dec 6 2012, 05:53
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Not worth much compared to what I've seen. Warding is the worst power suffix and about helmet, for 30k more you can get this: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=c40aff63a1. Still no End but much higher damage and mitigation. Superior slaughters aren't that expensive either and offer great damage but you should have at least 1 or 2 plate gear with high end and mitigation to be able to shrug off attacks with regen.

That katana is very good and will last you at least another 90 levels, no need to hurry to replace something that works. Estocs are only recommended near and post level 200 playing on nintendo +, which is very far away. Scythes are better but to get one with ethereal, an elemental strike, swift strike and higher damage would be expensive.

ET - ether theft
CM - coelesed mana
http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Fighting_Styles#Staff

Can't comment on their effectiveness as I've never casted a damage spell in my life but I think in normal you would prefer to just ragnorok every round in one hit or something (since you don't know what they are yet). Pack rat + godly mana potions?

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post Dec 6 2012, 05:56
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QUOTE(The Evil Phoenix @ Dec 6 2012, 05:37) *

This is my current blade, should I be replacing this with an Ethereal Estoc of Slaughter, given this weapon? Magnificent Arctic Katana of Slaughter (it may be a Katana, but I do ~1000 - ~1500 damage per hit, and it *is* max IW)

Your katana got good damage base and excellent Critical Chance for a magnificent; however, Bleed is kinda bad if you plan to run Heroic or higher (the bleed damage cant keep up with increasing monster HP), especially when your goal is to inflict as much damage as possible. Bleed is good for clearing Hard or lower, though

Also, a magnificent scythe of slaughter have 20 extra max damage base over katana, while estoc has 10 extra, so there is room for a replacement.

I dislike Cold damage because too many monsters can become resistant to it, espeically at lvl 200+ when you will meet Eila and others. If I have to choose an elemental, I prefer Hallow (against FSM and Schoolgirls)

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post Dec 6 2012, 05:58
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ET? CM? What?


CM: Coalesced Mana
ET: Ether Theft

Anything that survives your first volley may proc CM. If you aim spells at targets with CM, they cost half mana. If you smack an enemy with CM with your Staff, it can proc ET, which gives you 1-3 rounds (2-4 effective) of free mana from that enemy (depending on your staff). I was hoping my staff would get it's 3rd turn at 160, but it's still stuck at 2. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) My Focus Staff has 3 turns, and it makes quite the difference. Elementals make the best ET targets outside of bosses and schoolgirls, since they have tons of mana to steal, whereas Undead or Giants have very little (the difference is about 50% more mana from Elementals). Schoolgirls and Bosses you can just Weaken and Silence and then throw MM at them to proc CM and beat them with your staff to get ET and repeat.

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You can pick up Exquisite Plate for very cheap, 1-4 Hath a piece. I've been piecing together a Heavy set hoping for uncontested auction wins, but shops often have Exquisite 3 or 4 PAB Plate for 'not much for a Hath Baron' prices. It's when you get into Exquisites with 4 PABs, Max PMI and high STR/END or Mag pieces that you really see high prices.

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post Dec 6 2012, 06:24
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Okay, I think I know where to go from here, thanks to all of the Experts where who have given me excellent guidance.

To each of you, I bequeath a Burning Feather of the Apocalypse. May it bring you great power, and may it help to destroy your opponents with the power of the Ending.
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post Dec 6 2012, 06:54
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QUOTE(PK678353 @ Dec 5 2012, 19:58) *
I was hoping my staff would get it's 3rd turn at 160, but it's still stuck at 2. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)


Is this even possible for ET duration? I think I remember reading that proc duration could increase (up to the cap) for melee weapons, but I'm not sure about staffs.
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post Dec 6 2012, 06:58
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Is this even possible for ET duration? I think I remember reading that proc duration could increase (up to the cap) for melee weapons, but I'm not sure about staffs.

Sounds like he has base turn of 0.95 or lower, if that is case, he would need to be at least 270 level to see 3-turn

Staff's proc duration also increase like other melee weapon's duration.

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post Dec 6 2012, 07:24
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QUOTE(n125 @ Dec 6 2012, 00:54) *

Is this even possible for ET duration? I think I remember reading that proc duration could increase (up to the cap) for melee weapons, but I'm not sure about staffs.


Well, take a look, it's sitting in my signature. Tell me if you see 3 turns (I still only get 2). I know staves can gain turns, the Focus Staff I use to IW the Legendary Nif one had 2 turns before I hit 160 and now has 3 for me (which makes ET with Weaken spam possible, though still impractical at most difficulties, it's mostly just gravy on serendipitous ET).



QUOTE(Coma @ Dec 6 2012, 00:58) *

Sounds like he has base turn of 0.95 or lower, if that is case, he would need to be at least 270 level to see 3-turn

Staff's proc duration also increase like other melee weapon's duration.


270? Ugh. That'll be a while.

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post Dec 6 2012, 07:30
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QUOTE(PK678353 @ Dec 5 2012, 21:24) *

Well, take a look, it's sitting in my signature. Tell me if you see 3 turns (I still only get 2). I know staves can gain turns, the Focus Staff I use to IW the Legendary Nif one had 2 turns before I hit 160 and now has 3 for me (which makes ET with Weaken spam possible, though still impractical at most difficulties, it's mostly just gravy on serendipitous ET).
270? Ugh. That'll be a while.


Oh, so it does. Makes me worried about how high I'll have to be for my 0.76 base turn duration staff to get a 3rd ET turn. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) (But 2 turns isn't really so bad...)
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post Dec 6 2012, 07:36
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Maybe you're right. I know that the "perfect" weapon will never appear. And I will surely never be able to afford it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) However in my situation I will only spend so many credits for a really good weapon. I might be picky, but if I will buy on then it will be an Estoc with high WD and high STR.

Until then I will use my current one as it is good enough to clear all the Arenas til T&T in IWBTH without problems. Also IW and CF til round 200 is no big issue on BT difficulty.

So I will have to be patient until "my" estoc will appear in the HV universe. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

"your" estoc ? so, 'Mantra64 Ethereal Estoc of Slaughter'

help me, how much PXP is needed to max my main hand? i've just read the formula somewhere, but i lost it. hope this will help, 193 round/IW, 346 PXP to lv1.
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post Dec 6 2012, 07:43
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QUOTE(MirandaKerr @ Dec 6 2012, 05:36) *

"your" estoc ? so, 'Mantra64 Ethereal Estoc of Slaughter'

help me, how much PXP is needed to max my main hand? i've just read the formula somewhere, but i lost it. hope this will help, 193 round/IW, 346 PXP to lv1.


its close to 10 IWBTH runs to max something
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post Dec 6 2012, 07:49
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QUOTE(MirandaKerr @ Dec 6 2012, 07:36) *

"your" estoc ? so, 'Mantra64 Ethereal Estoc of Slaughter'

help me, how much PXP is needed to max my main hand? i've just read the formula somewhere, but i lost it. hope this will help, 193 round/IW, 346 PXP to lv1.

On average, it will take 10 IWBTH to max an equipment

You might want to save it in your sig if you keep asking about how much pxp is needed, the first formula calculates the next pxp requirement, the second is the total requirement going from 0 to 10

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post Dec 6 2012, 08:50
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So I have a question about stamina. I saw what were the suggestions on best use if I wanted credits/leveling/items, but I am wondering what is the best way to use the stamina ranges. So, I suppose I want money and leveling right now, not really interested in items but more tokens of blood and artifacts would be nice. Does that mean I should only focus on arenas and encounters when my stamina is >79? I am interested in playing more and don't mind my stamina getting lower but I would like the most bang for the buck, so I am wondering, once my stamina is <80, should I start just doing some grindfest/item world or just continue arena?
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post Dec 6 2012, 08:50
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QUOTE(Coma @ Dec 6 2012, 12:49) *

On average, it will take 10 IWBTH to max an equipment

You might want to save it in your sig if you keep asking about how much pxp is needed, the first formula calculates the next pxp requirement, the second is the total requirement going from 0 to 10

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post Dec 6 2012, 09:04
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QUOTE(SPoison @ Dec 6 2012, 13:50) *

So I have a question about stamina. I saw what were the suggestions on best use if I wanted credits/leveling/items, but I am wondering what is the best way to use the stamina ranges. So, I suppose I want money and leveling right now, not really interested in items but more tokens of blood and artifacts would be nice. Does that mean I should only focus on arenas and encounters when my stamina is >79? I am interested in playing more and don't mind my stamina getting lower but I would like the most bang for the buck, so I am wondering, once my stamina is <80, should I start just doing some grindfest/item world or just continue arena?

depend on how much time you spend everyday.
doing arena only, keep you stamina >79.
have a lot of time, normal stamina is the best(you can have more round to play> more credit)

and make sure to play at the highest difficulty you can as it give more EXP and credit too.

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Stamina

take IW as example
1 stamina = 20 round on great = 100 round on normal.
next 20 round on great should be 20+20*50% on normal = 30 round.
so for every stamina you spend on great, you can get 3 times more exp when it on normal. as IW don't give credit, it depends on your luck in item drop.

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stamina doesn't affect drop rate, it affect your EXP, credit/monster you kill in arena(not arena clear bonus), and damage(low damage= takes longer to clear arena/IW)
grindfest or IW, if you have some equip that worth to max, why don't you do it yourself?

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post Dec 6 2012, 09:07
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QUOTE(MirandaKerr @ Dec 5 2012, 23:04) *

depend on how much time you spend everyday.
doing arena only, keep you stamina >79.
have a lot of time, normal stamina is the best(you can have more round to play> more credit)

and make sure to play at the highest difficulty you can as it give more EXP and credit too.

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Stamina

take IW as example
1 stamina = 20 round on great = 100 round on normal.
next 20 round on great should be 20+20*50% on normal = 30 round.
so for every stamina you spend on great, you can get 3 times more exp when it on normal. as IW don't give credit, it depends on your luck in item drop.


Quick question, what does great mean? I never understood that.

Edit: Oh, do you mean that what the >79 stamina is called?

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