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It is a rough estimate how long it would take for [tvtropes.org] a post-200 newbie to realize that they need better gear to faceroll again. Trust me, I have read this thread often enough to see many post-200 who couldnt quite get hang of it.

Not only that, it's also the stat points and equipment growth you gain as you level. Without changing equip 220 was noticeably easier than 200 for me, same with 240/220.

I've always been a little apprehensive about hitting 200; I'd say it comes from hanging around in here a lot and having seen it drawn as a hard line.
However, I had assumed from the ge-go what varst has been putting forth in the last couple pages, and hearing many of you confirming it is great.

I've not stopped doing every IWBTH RE I can since realizing how much xp I get from them, so I believe I'll hit 200 relatively soon. If anyone cares I'll probably end up waxing long (and hopefully eloquent) on the issues I face when that happens. I like to think I'm relatively well prepared - short of actually obtaining a good weapon because I'm currently using a loan.

I've always been a little apprehensive about hitting 200; I'd say it comes from hanging around in here a lot and having seen it drawn as a hard line.
However, I had assumed from the ge-go what varst has been putting forth in the last couple pages, and hearing many of you confirming it is great.

I've not stopped doing every IWBTH RE I can since realizing how much xp I get from them, so I believe I'll hit 200 relatively soon. If anyone cares I'll probably end up waxing long (and hopefully eloquent) on the issues I face when that happens. I like to think I'm relatively well prepared - short of actually obtaining a good weapon because I'm currently using a loan.

If you are prepared, then post-200 is nothing more than a speed bump named Eila or five. So you have nothing to worry about.

All those who deliberately stays under level 200 are just pussies. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

You say that as if its a bad thing. I like pussies, wanna cum and pet mine? [i.dailymail.co.uk] Beware it bites!!

you're officially my goddess from now on (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

... okay, you're not, but this piece of info is awesome (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Totally forgot about this, as pre 200 I mainly used it to regen mp (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

If I cast Magnet on the final round of DwD and it doesn't work I'll use focus before I cast it again.



About getting stronger as you level up.
my estoc without any upgrades at
level 200 does 1010.22 WD
level 300 does 1476.47 WD
level 400 does 1942.73 WD

so just from a weapon you can double its damage. Then you have the rest of your gear + all the PA you gain as you level up. If your gear gives you 60% phy mit at a low level it may give you 75%-80% when you are higher in level. you also will have more END and that also adds to phy mit.

The big problem with hitting level 200 and the monsters is IWBTH isn't a cake wake anymore and you have to think about what you are doing more. Like maybe its a good idea to cast all those spells on yourself and keep them up all the time, maybe its a good idea to have your proficiency = to your level so spells last longer and stuff, maybe its a good idea not having your armor/weapon proficiency a 100 levels below your current level.

If you still cant cut it then go play on a lower setting

This post has been edited by 4EverLost: Dec 3 2012, 23:53

Speaking of approaching level 200, I'm a Holy/Dark mage and have been saving the Hath I get everyday to buy the Rainbow Aura. Right now I have 470 hath. On the other hand I can buy the first three levels of Innate Arcana with that hath. Which is the better choice and why? I already have Black and White Aura's but that's all I've bought with my hath.

Your Gold Star already gives you bonuses to EXP and HP/MP/SP regeneration. Ask yourself if you really need more. In your position, I would probably get the first two Innate Arcana levels, and then the Rainbow Aura. While saving up for the Rainbow Aura, you can determine how much you need IA3 (i.e., whether or not to postpone the Rainbow Aura further).

I only had 2 IA for most of the time I would mage, I think having more IA helps more if you melee.

PK: Up to 1+ quality, Easy if I remember to lower the difficulty(most efficient PXP-wise) - I tend not to notice the difference between it and normal(I ran it on normal for over 50 levels and drops: nothing good). The health gems and riddlemasters are enough to maintain health. I could do higher difficulties - recently completed EoD BT just to see if I could, but I guess I'd have to heal more, and you want to minmax value per short and long term time. (Also, currently trying to put 5 econ on my staff=)

Interestingly, I became faster at killing upon hitting 193, to the point I was facerolling faster than before while I accidentally had set title to newbie. Monster damage increased a bit, but pots used went down.

And no, btw, I don't even have points in spirit shield.

varst: You always get more damage when leveling up. Monsters always get stronger when you level up. You're obfuscating and you know it. MrTT and Uno both, for example, take far longer(real time) per normal IW than I, and well, this is proof enough for me that you get weaker. You have a point about drops. but this matters not for things like IW.

Ahh, I assumed since you were selling leveling services you could do it more efficiently in time and stamina terms than Easy runs (Like 4EverLost doing all his runs at BT/IWBTH). I suppose Easy does let you faceroll. I've been running my staff (Q=0.97) at Heroic with a Mag Focus Staff (which lines up with the last rounds having everything hit like IWBTH). Haven't tried pushing my Phase any harder than Heroic (going to be trying them after I get some levels on the Staff, hoping for some Capacitor).

Speaking of approaching level 200, I'm a Holy/Dark mage and have been saving the Hath I get everyday to buy the Rainbow Aura. Right now I have 470 hath. On the other hand I can buy the first three levels of Innate Arcana with that hath. Which is the better choice and why? I already have Black and White Aura's but that's all I've bought with my hath.

IA is awesome. Two levels means you can throw Haste and Spark/SS (your choice) in and never have to worry about those buffs again. It also means that you never pay for 'wasted' time on them (casting Spark manually before a 3 round arena is kind of wasteful).

Hell, I always figured half the point of Gold/Rainbow Aura was to get enough MP Regen to maintain your IA buffs without losing mana each round.

This post has been edited by PK678353: Dec 4 2012, 02:39

I was playing this game only for credits. I decided last month to make a leveling and hit 200 1 min ago. I've been doing all heroic~hell arenas and IW, while X25 through fresh meat before. Now it is even harder to clear on normal--they got almost same hp as in heroic before 200 and double+ dmg. As a melee, I dont think my equip is very low, but this is hard...

My power set
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=532f514ded
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=27aaca43a1
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=0c6a173b73
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=9813ec9e95
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=3f78984333
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=22f5173b8e

Now I really wonder if i should change my fighting style.. I also got a shade set of all sup SD/fleet but that dies faster. Or should I use a estoc? Without the mace proc it would be hard to fight 10 enemies.

I would switch some of the power pieces without endurance (especially the balance leggings) for Plate until you can get the feel of level 200+. Learn to weaken the strong monsters, haste + protection + spirit shield at all times. Mace and heavy should be really safe but those power are lacking in PMI and endurance.

I was playing this game only for credits. I decided last month to make a leveling and hit 200 1 min ago. I've been doing all heroic~hell arenas and IW, while X25 through fresh meat before. Now it is even harder to clear on normal--they got almost same hp as in heroic before 200 and double+ dmg. As a melee, I dont think my equip is very low, but this is hard...

My power set
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=532f514ded
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=27aaca43a1
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=0c6a173b73
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=9813ec9e95
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=3f78984333
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=22f5173b8e

what do you have for phy mit? if you use anything of Protection and it doesn't have END you are kind missing out. You may want to try some plate of protection so you take less damage or find some slaughter gear so you can kill faster. Do you shard any of your gear?


IW: normal vs IWBTH, how long does it take and how many rounds can you do in an hour
Lets say I can do 400-500 rounds an hour in a legendary on IWBTH, I would have to do 4000-5000 rounds/hour on normal to get the same amount of equipment potential points and that sure isn't going to happen. There is also that thing were its very easy to get +3 to the same thing when you do IWBTH and you also use less stamina.

Now I really wonder if i should change my fighting style.. I also got a shade set of all sup SD/fleet but that dies faster. Or should I use a estoc? Without the mace proc it would be hard to fight 10 enemies.

My gear's stats were pretty weaker than yours when I reached 200. I did not have problem back then (that was after Monster Lab buff), I dont see why you still having problem.

Learn to identify the Big 5, take out the weakest monsters first so you wont felt overwhelmed

Keep up Haste and RegenII at all times, Protection is optional but not a must

Learn when to use Spirit Stance + Great Cleave combo


About your Protection Power, if it dont have both END and STR, forget it and find better replacement.

My old gears back when I started out:
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=cc1ece506e
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=55efd8a90a
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=c8bfb90ada
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=5c88ff186e
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=c697826035

This post has been edited by Coma: Dec 4 2012, 04:35

time to gain knowledge on frenzy
99 DW prof
134 OC

134-50(iris)+4*5(hit)-50(stab)+4*5=74 OC left

thats the worst case, so should i go frenzy or SS&hit ?

i can train some more AP but i already have 40, now its ~10k per training. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
and lv142 is time for me to save AP so i can dump them on lv150 tank&spell

Uh, with only 75-100 OC for frenzy it might be faster to just use divinity infusion and SS hits. I wasted so many thinking they boosted frenzy damage (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Uh, with only 75-100 OC for frenzy it might be faster to just use divinity infusion and SS hits. I wasted so many thinking they boosted frenzy damage (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

don't you look at your log sometimes?
i'm almost insane just by looking at my log too much, waiting when will i gain another 0.01 DW prof.

I would have to do 4000-5000 rounds/hour on normal to get the same amount of equipment potential points and that sure isn't going to happen.

I do legendary IW in 2.5 mins atm. Used to be faster, but this is 4800 rounds per hour atm (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

thats the worst case, so should i go frenzy or SS&hit ?

Not gona lie, I was very confused by your SS acronym since the wiki lists: Spirit Shield, Soul Stone, and Shatter Strike, but not Spirit Stance. At first I wondered how you were using 1h and 2h skills at once, then I figured you meant using SS as a consumable to enable your combo. Lastly, I guessed you meant Spirit Stance, but it gave me a few minutes of puzzlement (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

As for my own question about these skills, it seems elemental weapon strikes nor off hand attacks do not occur when using a skill, or is that damage included into the damage multiplier if they "do proc"? Can you gain proficiency for your fighting style from skills? Does frenzied blows use normal melee attacks which would proc those elemental and offhand strikes?

Arcdewn: No, works off your damage shown in equipment window, afaik no, no.

This post has been edited by Lement: Dec 4 2012, 09:12

What's the criteria for good Estocs nowadays?

I recently got this and I'm wondering if it would be worth the effort to auction it.