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post Dec 1 2012, 13:55
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Do you guys have any info about monster level (not power level) ? Do they only get more HP or they also get more damage and stats ?


QUOTE(Mantra64 @ Dec 1 2012, 12:55) *

Where do you see those good elemental estocs? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

I have been looking through so many shope for weeks, but haven't found one which suited my demands. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)


There is a magnificent hallowed estoc in auction right now. 6 hours left.
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=99373
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post Dec 1 2012, 13:57
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8-12h daily...they must have a lot of time plus a lot of energy drinks >.< I cant even do 2-3 arenas these days. Damn winter break, always too busy the month before ><
Btw when can you guys light melee fight IWBTH mob unweakened?
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post Dec 1 2012, 14:03
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QUOTE(varst @ Dec 1 2012, 11:36) *

This is a game. It's not supposed to be played 8-12 hours daily (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


that's right, it should be played 24/7 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

QUOTE(chamois @ Dec 1 2012, 11:55) *

Do you guys have any info about monster level (not power level) ? Do they only get more HP or they also get more damage and stats ?
There is a magnificent hallowed estoc in auction right now. 6 hours left.
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=99373


that is a nice estoc, lets all go bid on it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Dec 1 2012, 14:11
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QUOTE(4EverLost @ Dec 1 2012, 16:03) *
that is a nice estoc, lets all go bid on it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Mine is better. I don't use it though, I prefer my bc ethereal one. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Dec 1 2012, 14:33
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QUOTE(chamois @ Dec 1 2012, 19:55) *

Do you guys have any info about monster level (not power level) ? Do they only get more HP or they also get more damage and stats ?


Monsters' stats are scaled according to the level. And they have most of the derived attributes (like PAB/HP) like the players.

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=1585552
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=1672318

I'm not 100% sure about the details now, so you'll have to ask skillchip for that.

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post Dec 1 2012, 16:13
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Is there some sort of dodge penalty vs. multiple mobs and/or on their first effective turn?
I've been finding for a good long while now that whenever there are like 7-10, that the majoirty of them always seem to score hits on me on that same turn even if I'm veiled up, yet immediately afterwards it's normal service resumes even if it has taken me a few turns before I've killed the first monster.
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post Dec 1 2012, 16:23
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QUOTE(Evil Scorpio @ Dec 1 2012, 14:11) *

Mine is better. I don't use it though, I prefer my bc ethereal one. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


Very nice.

I wonder how would a weapon with Void damage and Dark strike work. Does it inflict more Void damage on monsters weak against Dark and normal Void damage for monsters strong against Dark or weaker Void damage to those monsters?
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post Dec 1 2012, 16:31
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QUOTE(chamois @ Dec 1 2012, 22:23) *

Very nice.

I wonder how would a weapon with Void damage and Dark strike work. Does it inflict more Void damage on monsters weak against Dark and normal Void damage for monsters strong against Dark or weaker Void damage to those monsters?


It's two separate attacks, the main one deals void physical damage and the elemental one deals dark physical damage at 50% damage bonus.
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post Dec 1 2012, 17:01
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how many turns does it take to clear a full round on IWBTH? The reason why mace is slow is it doesn't have PA but you can get that buy using Rending Blow. If you use the first 2 skills each round and then make sure you don't finish the round until you recover OC so you can use it again next round. If it takes too many turns then use spirit stance + rending blow. Doing that can be faster then using spirit stance + normal attacks


I still can't perfect cycling them yet . I have some round that have no oc. and that round take a lot of time.

or my oc. tank is too low?? it's max is 220%
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post Dec 1 2012, 17:04
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how many turns does it take to clear a full round on IWBTH?

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post Dec 1 2012, 17:13
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QUOTE(Mantra64 @ Dec 1 2012, 17:55) *

Where do you see those good elemental estocs? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

I have been looking through so many shope for weeks, but haven't found one which suited my demands. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

first thing, i mean no offence.
good for you? please compare your lvl and loserneo. i have no doubt that all player at your level are VERY picky. you've played for so long that you need a 'perfect' gears(a 'perfect' ex need a 'very good to perfect' mag as a replacement, and so on). while player at my level only need your old gears as a replacement, like i use T_Starkk obsolete(for him) stuff. i can't wait when he will replace his hand and boots. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
and i'm only saying there are 'more elemental' estoc than ethereal one. i didn't say the majority are good.

QUOTE(Herp in your Derp @ Dec 1 2012, 21:13) *

Is there some sort of dodge penalty vs. multiple mobs and/or on their first effective turn?
I've been finding for a good long while now that whenever there are like 7-10, that the majoirty of them always seem to score hits on me on that same turn even if I'm veiled up, yet immediately afterwards it's normal service resumes even if it has taken me a few turns before I've killed the first monster.

when you say majority, how many of them?
and how much are your evade and parry?

i usually evade/parry most of them on first turn, half at the very least.

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thats more or less always the worst case, evade all if i'm lucky.


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post Dec 1 2012, 17:15
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QUOTE(Herp in your Derp @ Dec 1 2012, 10:13) *

Is there some sort of dodge penalty vs. multiple mobs and/or on their first effective turn?
I've been finding for a good long while now that whenever there are like 7-10, that the majoirty of them always seem to score hits on me on that same turn even if I'm veiled up, yet immediately afterwards it's normal service resumes even if it has taken me a few turns before I've killed the first monster.


That's confirmation bias talking. I find it equally likely to dodge everything (a bit under 50% avoidance after Evade, Parry and SV), or get hit by everything in the opening round after Fimbulvetr.

Except for anti-evade, evade is statistically equal to mitigation, it just sometimes RNG screws you (and sometimes pulls you through things a Plate user could never have survived, like evading a Puff of Logic if your Curse-Weaving fails horribly).
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post Dec 1 2012, 17:24
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When there are like about 10, it's usually always 7-8 red lines suddenly on their first turn then I get the relief of seeing the grey. I'm just lucky I have enough aspd to set up veil+haste & most of the time prot before it's their turn.

My evade/parry are 29.1/34.3
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post Dec 1 2012, 17:46
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QUOTE(Herp in your Derp @ Dec 1 2012, 22:24) *

When there are like about 10, it's usually always 7-8 red lines suddenly on their first turn then I get the relief of seeing the grey. I'm just lucky I have enough aspd to set up veil+haste & most of the time prot before it's their turn.

My evade/parry are 29.1/34.3

hmm, you've more avoidance than me. look at my log at my last post.
i always successfully cast 3 buff/debuff(after haste) per monster turn and then weaken all of them patiently.
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post Dec 1 2012, 17:48
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Maybe just cause nearly every mob takes their turn at roughly the same time at turn 1, and past that you get less hits/round. Avoidance is the same every round.

At 190 or so you shouldn't HAVE to use weaken, but for RE its not too mana-intensive and gets your deprecating up so why not.

You can take a break from rending blow on the round with no dangerous mobs, and those dont have very high Mitigation so it should still be under 20 turns using regular attacks

@Nekokon

Wtf, do you have exp boost or spectral auras or something? I play roughly 1 hour/day and you've already outleveled me...

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post Dec 1 2012, 18:05
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QUOTE(MirandaKerr @ Dec 1 2012, 16:13) *

first thing, i mean no offence.
good for you? please compare your lvl and loserneo. i have no doubt that all player at your level are VERY picky. you've played for so long that you need a 'perfect' gears(a 'perfect' ex need a 'very good to perfect' mag as a replacement, and so on). while player at my level only need your old gears as a replacement, like i use T_Starkk obsolete(for him) stuff. i can't wait when he will replace his hand and boots. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
and i'm only saying there are 'more elemental' estoc than ethereal one. i didn't say the majority are good.


No offense taken (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I know that I'm far from loserneo. I'm loaning him my first estoc which might be good for him, but not for me anymore. Even the one I'm using now is beginning to lack enough power. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Since good etheral estocs seems to be very rare, I'm looking for mag estocs of slaughter or ones with a good elemental strike. But they appears to be very rare as well. That's why I asked where I should look for those estocs...

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post Dec 1 2012, 18:16
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QUOTE(Mantra64 @ Dec 1 2012, 23:05) *

No offense taken (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I know that I'm far from loserneo. I'm loaning him my first estoc which might be good for him, but not for me anymore. Even the one I'm using now is beginning to lack enough power. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Since good etheral estocs seems to be very rare, I'm looking for mag estocs of slaughter or ones with a good elemental strike. But they appears to be very rare as well. That's why I asked where I should look for those estocs...

wanna have 'perfect' estoc?
meet 10b in person, then pay him 10k USD to 'create' you one. preferably at max potency too.
a 'perfect' Legendary Ethereal Estoc of Slaughter lvMax (lv5 butcher lv4 ss holy/dark element).
dang, i'll kill myself after that.
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post Dec 1 2012, 18:19
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QUOTE(MirandaKerr @ Dec 1 2012, 11:16) *

wanna have 'perfect' estoc?
meet 10b in person, then pay him 10k USD to 'create' you one. preferably at max potency too.
a 'perfect' Legendary Ethereal Estoc of Slaughter lvMax (lv5 butcher lv4 ss holy/dark element).
dang, i'll kill myself after that.


Might as well ask him to make it a Legendary Ethereal estoc of ponies with level 9 butcher and every elemental strike. There's been level 6 archmage that persisted so it should be possible (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Dec 1 2012, 18:27
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QUOTE(fishinsea @ Dec 1 2012, 23:19) *

Might as well ask him to make it a Legendary Ethereal estoc of ponies with level 9 butcher and every elemental strike. There's been level 6 archmage that persisted so it should be possible (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

haha, very good idea. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

breaking news
this is the first time a monster EVADE my attack. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
and i'm still at 139.1% hit chance. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
such a long way to go. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
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post Dec 1 2012, 18:36
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QUOTE(MirandaKerr @ Dec 1 2012, 12:27) *

haha, very good idea. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

breaking news
this is the first time a monster EVADE my attack. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
and i'm still at 139.1% hit chance. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
such a long way to go. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)


Only gets worse from here. You'll start seeing more Parry too. You'll just notice it less than mages do because the one guy with full health after an AoE kind of sticks out. Poke him in the eyes for his temerity. Somehow that never misses.
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