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post Nov 30 2012, 23:33
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QUOTE(4EverLost @ Nov 30 2012, 13:10) *
its a nice estoc for ETH, but you could find something better with elemental strike. It should still be leveled if you buy it.


Well, I wanted ethereal because I got used to the great reduction in burden/interference, and because void damage will help me deal more damage in an aoe. An elemental one will have more damage on the main target but until I max it will suffer from piercing mitigation on secondary targets. Also, am I expecting elemental estocs to have much better damage/stats or something? (Footnote, I'm aware that the burden/interference can be sharded away but I haven't the ability to go enough rounds quickly and consecutively to make good use of that.)


QUOTE(MirandaKerr @ Nov 30 2012, 14:21) *
100k for 'trying', i doubt you'll use light set for long, i personally think heavy user won't feel comfortable when using light. trading a 'certainty' for 'gambling'.
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=2b258cc66a feel tempted?


Well, that's where I'd have to say you are wrong. I picked heavy armor arbitrarily, not because I wanted the certainty to start with. And I stuck with it, but I have plans to branch out to magery and beyond eventually. I like trying new stuff. You are right that 100k for trying light will probably get me nowhere. Which is too bad because that's more or less all I can spare in that regard atm. As for the dagger, I was only tempted because I found it XD I'm not going to pay for one. That certainly is a nice dagger though, did it drop for you?
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post Dec 1 2012, 01:48
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Which resistence is worth to put an ability point in?

Dark -> Soul -> Holy
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post Dec 1 2012, 03:23
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I just hit lvl 200 recently, and immediately, I noticed that the monsters have a little more power in the damage they deal. I even had to scale down the difficulty from Nintendo to Hell difficulty as a result. Any suggestions on how to deal with this, other than buying better gear?
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post Dec 1 2012, 03:26
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targeting more dangerous ones first, for one. Also, OC building on weaker ones, and hitting the more evasive ones with dominos at times, since you don't want to miss the main target.

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post Dec 1 2012, 03:32
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Am I correct in thinking that 2h/light is simply not possible without a shitload of money to buy high end evade gear?
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post Dec 1 2012, 03:48
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Am I correct in thinking that 2h/light is simply not possible without a shitload of money to buy high end evade gear?


Not at all, I've been alternating between mace and DW using a some superior shadowdancer stuff under 50k until 200, by then you should have > 1 mil to spend on exquisite gear and a good ethereal mace.
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post Dec 1 2012, 03:51
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Depends. Mace/Shade is commonly done (and presumably get easier at 100 and 200 2H prof when you get the extra monsters hit with domino). Estoc/Shade or Scythe/Shade is not commonly done, since you just don't have the survivability. Estoc/Kevlar is a thing (see Evil Scorpio).
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post Dec 1 2012, 04:17
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QUOTE(dapanza @ Nov 30 2012, 17:23) *

I just hit lvl 200 recently, and immediately, I noticed that the monsters have a little more power in the damage they deal. I even had to scale down the difficulty from Nintendo to Hell difficulty as a result. Any suggestions on how to deal with this, other than buying better gear?

high pl monsters that have a lot of chaos tokens invested in them hit harder & faster, have more hp, resist/ evade/ parry a lot more, and are nuisances til you've gotten a few more levels, so . . .
up your accuracy
use weaken as needed
get used to using spirit shield more (maybe SoL if needed)
if your regen2 is not keeping you alive properly, grind some curative
as stated, exploit domino strike by hitting other mobs around them
save enough OC (also make sure you have plenty of OC tanks) to use skills on the tough ones right away.
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post Dec 1 2012, 04:53
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QUOTE(loserneo @ Dec 1 2012, 04:33) *

Well, I wanted ethereal because I got used to the great reduction in burden/interference, and because void damage will help me deal more damage in an aoe. An elemental one will have more damage on the main target but until I max it will suffer from piercing mitigation on secondary targets. Also, am I expecting elemental estocs to have much better damage/stats or something? (Footnote, I'm aware that the burden/interference can be sharded away but I haven't the ability to go enough rounds quickly and consecutively to make good use of that.)
Well, that's where I'd have to say you are wrong. I picked heavy armor arbitrarily, not because I wanted the certainty to start with. And I stuck with it, but I have plans to branch out to magery and beyond eventually. I like trying new stuff. You are right that 100k for trying light will probably get me nowhere. Which is too bad because that's more or less all I can spare in that regard atm. As for the dagger, I was only tempted because I found it XD I'm not going to pay for one. That certainly is a nice dagger though, did it drop for you?

elemental estoc
1. cheaper
2. there are many of them in the market
3. you don't have to guess which element you'll get at max potency(preferably holy/dark, following the holy/dark mage popularity)
4. holy element boost cure(you already know this)
5. not important, kill your main target early means less 1 to worry.

regarding IW, i do things on easy(my connection speed suck, but i believe i can go on hard) 1-2 times per day. sounds time consuming? yes. does it worth to do? depend on your weapon quality. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

i've just added some light armor in my shop, check it out.
i got that dagger from auction for 50k. i wonder if its not a 'dagger' but a 'rapier', how much the price can rise. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Dec 1 2012, 04:59
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Ive been looking for the base proficiency gain rate. does anyone know what it is?
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post Dec 1 2012, 05:03
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Ive been looking for the base proficiency gain rate. does anyone know what it is?

You gain between 0.01 to 0.03

No, we dont know the gain frequency, though the greater the difference between your level and the prof, the faster you gain prof
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post Dec 1 2012, 07:50
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why i have 9%,6%,3% mit for fire,elec,wind?
i never put AP in it, everything else normal too
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post Dec 1 2012, 07:52
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QUOTE(MirandaKerr @ Nov 30 2012, 21:50) *

why i have 9%,6%,3% mit for fire,elec,wind?
i never put AP in it, everything else normal too


Check armor proficiency for <element> proof.
Check released auras as well.

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post Dec 1 2012, 07:56
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Check armor proficiency for <element> proof.
Check released auras as well.

ah, aura. forgot that one. thanks
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post Dec 1 2012, 08:13
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The Bazaar is flooded with Superior and Exquisite heavy armor (plate, power, shield.)

DOES ANYONE WANT TO SEND ME A MILLION CREDITS?

srs question.

rofl...nvermind..

all gone and the shop still hasn't updated for list length..I counted at least eight pieces of power slaughter and a few balance, and some really good barrier shield plates....

darn.,

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post Dec 1 2012, 12:55
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QUOTE(MirandaKerr @ Dec 1 2012, 03:53) *

elemental estoc
1. cheaper
2. there are many of them in the market
3. you don't have to guess which element you'll get at max potency(preferably holy/dark, following the holy/dark mage popularity)
4. holy element boost cure(you already know this)
5. not important, kill your main target early means less 1 to worry.

regarding IW, i do things on easy(my connection speed suck, but i believe i can go on hard) 1-2 times per day. sounds time consuming? yes. does it worth to do? depend on your weapon quality. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

i've just added some light armor in my shop, check it out.
i got that dagger from auction for 50k. i wonder if its not a 'dagger' but a 'rapier', how much the price can rise. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


Where do you see those good elemental estocs? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

I have been looking through so many shope for weeks, but haven't found one which suited my demands. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Dec 1 2012, 13:18
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QUOTE(PK678353 @ Dec 1 2012, 08:51) *

Depends. Mace/Shade is commonly done (and presumably get easier at 100 and 200 2H prof when you get the extra monsters hit with domino). Estoc/Shade or Scythe/Shade is not commonly done, since you just don't have the survivability. Estoc/Kevlar is a thing (see Evil Scorpio).


I am wierdo again.

My preference is estoc/mix Shade+kevlar on IWTBH in short run.
(mace sure take a lot of time. if not too long than mana pot could hold on ,estoc is faster)
or Scythe with same armor in low difficulty long run.


long run - high difficulty is definitely use mace, anyway.

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post Dec 1 2012, 13:19
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Am I the only one around this lv that never ever pass 400k credit mark (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) ? Even my current set now worth less than 300k.

Only play about 1h a day, and with my lvling speed I don't really feel the need of having a really good weapon at all. Stuck with this one from super awesome fishy (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post Dec 1 2012, 13:34
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QUOTE(Manian @ Dec 1 2012, 11:18) *

I am wierdo again.

My preference is estoc/mix Shade+kevlar on IWTBH in short run.
(mace sure take a lot of time. if not too long than mana pot could hold on ,estoc is faster)
or Scythe with same armor in low difficulty long run.
long run - high difficulty is definitely use mace, anyway.


how many turns does it take to clear a full round on IWBTH? The reason why mace is slow is it doesn't have PA but you can get that buy using Rending Blow. If you use the first 2 skills each round and then make sure you don't finish the round until you recover OC so you can use it again next round. If it takes too many turns then use spirit stance + rending blow. Doing that can be faster then using spirit stance + normal attacks

QUOTE(Nekokon @ Dec 1 2012, 11:19) *

Am I the only one around this lv that never ever pass 400k credit mark (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) ? Even my current set now worth less than 300k.

Only play about 1h a day, and with my lvling speed I don't really feel the need of having a really good weapon at all. Stuck with this one from super awesome fishy (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


you should be happy you only play 1 hr a day (and have a life) some play this game 8-12 hours (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)
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post Dec 1 2012, 13:36
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QUOTE(Nekokon @ Dec 1 2012, 19:19) *

Am I the only one around this lv that never ever pass 400k credit mark (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) ? Even my current set now worth less than 300k.

Only play about 1h a day, and with my lvling speed I don't really feel the need of having a really good weapon at all. Stuck with this one from super awesome fishy (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


This is a game. It's not supposed to be played 8-12 hours daily (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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