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post Nov 19 2012, 07:55
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Void isn't that necessary unless you have a mace or club. Slashing damage is commonly sitting at 25% damage reduction, so while its an upgrade, its not worth spending too much on.

That free axe looks much better (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Nov 19 2012, 07:56
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i used to give away hundreds thousands of credits away a few years back ask tenseiga he got it a few times back when i used to adopt a hath server :_ ok im sending now
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post Nov 19 2012, 07:58
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QUOTE(loserneo @ Nov 19 2012, 15:39) *

It's interesting to hear that you guys have so many potions, cause I need to buy mana pots all the time. Still~~

Actual question, I'm considering buying this for 20k: Superior Ethereal Axe of Slaughter

Is that an upgrade from what I currently have (link in sig)?

Edit: NVM Someone bought it while I was musing lol

Edit2: Tell me anyway though so I have an idea.

Eh, it's not too bad (ADB is pretty good), but the lack of PABs make your current axe marginally better. 4PABs on your axe means that you can level up your weapon with only Butcher and Swift Strike (and Hollowforged as the last potency), if that sort of thing interests you. With the Ethereal one, you're as likely to get other PABs, and that might screw things up nicely.

But I guess for 20k, it's worth thinking about once or twice.
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post Nov 19 2012, 07:59
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QUOTE(Coma @ Nov 18 2012, 23:55) *

For a weapon, look at prefix (ethereal generally are must buy) and suffix (Slaughter is the best suffix for axe), its Base Weapon Damage is near max (52 base), have high bleed rate, and good PAB roll.



Thanks for the advice. How did you know what the max bwd was? I have the scripts but not the knowledge or at least reference material.

Edit: Wow, lots of responses so quickly. No, I did not think about the 4PAB thing because I don't have the stamina to IW this stuff. I'm focusing all my stamina on EXP right now. Those obscure-looking pony riddles with too many dark-colored circles keep raping my stamina XD

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post Nov 19 2012, 08:00
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Question is: who is willing to IW a superior axe? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Equipment_Ranges

And coma, all I'm saying is to wait for an exquisite that you want to keep instead of making marginal upgrades.

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post Nov 19 2012, 08:00
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QUOTE(fishinsea @ Nov 19 2012, 07:55) *

Void isn't that necessary unless you have a mace or club. Slashing damage is commonly sitting at 25% damage reduction, so while its an upgrade, its not worth spending too much on.

Yes, but would have been better if there is none to be mitigated.

Plus ethereal means the axe wont have burden or inference. Regular axes have base burden of 10~17, highest of 1-hand weapons, which would have made lest popular weapon choice for DW Shade


QUOTE(loserneo @ Nov 19 2012, 07:59) *

Thanks for the advice. How did you know what the max bwd was? I have the scripts but not the knowledge or at least reference material.

Edit: Wow, lots of responses so quickly. No, I did not think about the 4PAB thing because I don't have the stamina to IW this stuff. I'm focusing all my stamina on EXP right now. Those obscure-looking pony riddles with too many dark-colored circles keep raping my stamina XD

ehwiki.org/wiki/Equipment_Ranges

Bookmark it for reference, or if you have Base Stat script installed, press R

QUOTE(loserneo @ Nov 19 2012, 07:59) *

Those obscure-looking pony riddles with too many dark-colored circles keep raping my stamina XD

Generally the answer would be Fluttershy

QUOTE(fishinsea @ Nov 19 2012, 08:00) *

Question is: who is willing to IW a superior axe? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Depend how good it is. Generally having 4PAB is enough to try a run or two


QUOTE(fishinsea @ Nov 19 2012, 08:00) *

And coma, all I'm saying is to wait for an exquisite that you want to keep instead of making marginal upgrades.

But it was an improvement and cheap, until Killa give one for free. I dont consider upgrade to exquisite even into lvl200, and I am still doing ok with half of superiors.

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post Nov 19 2012, 08:10
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nvm i see what you mean now lol


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post Nov 19 2012, 08:41
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QUOTE(xmagus @ Nov 19 2012, 07:26) *

This is incredibly interesting. Because I have Godly Mana Potions coming out my ears. Every day I sell them off in 100-unit job lots.

/me suspects you have to increase your Scavenger training level massively.

Seriously, in a 100-round Arena, I get about 50-60 Godly Manas and a craptonne of Godly Healths.


good for you...

QUOTE(Nekokon @ Nov 19 2012, 07:36) *

Pretty much the same here, average of 1 to 2 pots every round.
Even without scavenger you won't run out of pot these day, so much as went bankrupt because of that.
And she(?) is lv 222, no less o.O


yeah but i cant do arenas because i die...

is dificult understand ... the fact i cant do arenas? look! i have lvl 222 and im still with the destined display... so is for something, no?

im not all the mage experts all in one with all the stuff and complex build and so on... if you just joking me ... i prefer dont help as that...

well, i dont know the "ask the experts" section need know all about this game, be expert and more, SORRY ¬¬

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post Nov 19 2012, 08:49
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QUOTE(Luxury_blood @ Nov 19 2012, 08:41) *

is dificult understand ... the fact i cant do arenas? look! i have lvl 222 and im still with the destined display... so is for something, no?

I think there is something wrong with your setup, I was a part-time mixed Hemidall/Fenrir mage and I could get through Trio just fine.

If you run out of mana, weaken/silence until Condensed Mana appear, then use staff to proc Ether Theft, drain until monster dies and rinse and repeat. The higher difficulty you go, the easier this trick becomes.

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post Nov 19 2012, 08:50
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QUOTE(Luxury_blood @ Nov 18 2012, 22:41) *



Post links to your equipment and screenshots of your abilities and stats. If you're having that much trouble with arenas then there might be something amiss in one or more of those areas.
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post Nov 19 2012, 08:56
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QUOTE(fishinsea @ Nov 19 2012, 11:33) *

Spamming infusion of divinity anyone can do it under 300.

I just did, kill FSM in IWBTH. He has 4,5M HP, hit me for ~2kHP when weakened. I barely survived at the cost of 7 Godly mana pot, about 15 or more infusion of divinity and total zero SP, MP and ~10% HP left. I got 1 chaos token plus this junk as rewards. Not sure if it worth the trouble.
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post Nov 19 2012, 08:57
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It might be time for you to make the switch to Holy/Dark.
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post Nov 19 2012, 08:59
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QUOTE(rally9981 @ Nov 19 2012, 02:56) *

I just did, kill FSM in IWBTH. He has 4,5M HP, hit me for ~2kHP when weakened. I barely survived at the cost of 7 Godly mana pot, about 15 or more infusion of divinity and total zero SP, MP and ~10% HP left. I got 1 chaos token plus this junk as rewards. Not sure if it worth the trouble.


That seems odd, since he was only hitting me for 1k after I weakened him, and of course, phase isn't exactly rocking massive mitigations. You've got 5 AP in Weaken, right?
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post Nov 19 2012, 09:00
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QUOTE(xmagus @ Nov 19 2012, 12:58) *

Eh, it's not too bad (ADB is pretty good), but the lack of PABs make your current axe marginally better. 4PABs on your axe means that you can level up your weapon with only Butcher and Swift Strike (and Hollowforged as the last potency), if that sort of thing interests you. With the Ethereal one, you're as likely to get other PABs, and that might screw things up nicely.

But I guess for 20k, it's worth thinking about once or twice.



keep in mind that lv5 butcher add only 10%

calculate with it's str and dex should determine that how much damage weapon can add.
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post Nov 19 2012, 09:05
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QUOTE(PK678353 @ Nov 19 2012, 13:59) *

That seems odd, since he was only hitting me for 1k after I weakened him, and of course, phase isn't exactly rocking massive mitigations. You've got 5 AP in Weaken, right?

Yep, max out weaken and silence. Maybe i'm just unlucky today. Somehow i've been getting hit twice as much as usual even with SV active. I even lost an hourly battle today, got crit by 5 mob at the same time; since i was in full health and they were weakened, i didnt bother cast SoL (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

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It might be time for you to make the switch to Holy/Dark.

Maybe you are right, maybe it's time to add prefixes to my tools

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post Nov 19 2012, 09:08
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QUOTE(rally9981 @ Nov 19 2012, 03:05) *

Yep, max out weaken and silence. Maybe i'm just unlucky today. Somehow i've been getting hit twice as much as usual even with SV active. I even lost an hourly battle today, got crit by 5 mob at the same time; since i was in full health and they were weakened, i didnt bother cast SoL (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)


Da fook? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Weaken is supposed to stop critical hits entirely. I think you need to take your Weaken in for repairs, something's not right here.

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post Nov 19 2012, 09:21
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My bad, by crit with weakened, i mean they used special attacks, those attacks usually costs me 1.4-2k HP each

Normally i only got 1-2 special attack at a time so at worst i only have to use cure II, that time i got 5 distinct red lines and the cute little box "you have been defeated". I was speechless for about 2 mins there.

PPS: maybe im confusing a bit here, let me sort it out first. My defeated earlier really got to me.

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post Nov 19 2012, 10:02
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47 7 Windzilla dropped [Superior Ethereal Club of the Battlecaster]
what the hell is this and is it something people would want i didnt think my first ethereal drop would be this
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post Nov 19 2012, 10:47
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QUOTE(killa @ Nov 18 2012, 23:02) *

47 7 Windzilla dropped [Superior Ethereal Club of the Battlecaster]
what the hell is this and is it something people would want i didnt think my first ethereal drop would be this


It's kinda like mine...
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=6a1c0efa44

Yeah, there's a market for battlecaster, there's a niche crowd that likes the mana conservation. The mana conservation on yours and mine is okay for a one-handed weapon. You might be able to sell it for 30-50k, imo.

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post Nov 19 2012, 12:34
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Yay to godslayer (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Have to do it in Heroic though (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) At least no more instant death (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

QUOTE(Luxury_blood @ Nov 19 2012, 02:41) *

good for you...
yeah but i cant do arenas because i die...

is dificult understand ... the fact i cant do arenas? look! i have lvl 222 and im still with the destined display... so is for something, no?

im not all the mage experts all in one with all the stuff and complex build and so on... if you just joking me ... i prefer dont help as that...

well, i dont know the "ask the experts" section need know all about this game, be expert and more, SORRY ¬¬


I just stated some common knowledge. If you're still in trouble there must be some fundamental wrongs, not "expert" ones. For example, lower the difficulty to normal, and you can pretty much 2-hit everything just circling dark/holy; keep sv and regen up and you don't have to watch out for your hp all the time; remember name of those monsters who killed you/making trouble/... and deal with them first hand (weaken, silence, or outright kill them off first); etc.

Sorry if it sounds offense, but that's all there is. This game can be slow, but it can't be hard.

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