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post Nov 18 2012, 20:56
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QUOTE(MirandaKerr @ Nov 18 2012, 20:51) *

a quick question after kicking FSM nightmare mode in 286 rounds

how in the hell i can't land SILENCE on it?
1 case - 4 active effect - weaken, blind, poison, PA/stun(forgot which one) | trying 6 times before surrender
2 case - 2 active effect - blind, weaken | trying 4 times before surrender

weaken seems doing fine whenever i need it, at least the third attempt always succeed.

Resist is a b*tch

I start with Weaken, then Silence when FSM have about 50% MP, then finally use DW skill's Blind
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post Nov 18 2012, 20:58
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QUOTE(MirandaKerr @ Nov 19 2012, 02:51) *

a quick question after kicking FSM nightmare mode in 286 rounds

how in the hell i can't land SILENCE on it?
1 case - 4 active effect - weaken, blind, poison, PA/stun(forgot which one) | trying 6 times before surrender
2 case - 2 active effect - blind, weaken | trying 4 times before surrender

weaken seems doing fine whenever i need it, at least the third attempt always succeed.


It's called curse weaving
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post Nov 18 2012, 20:59
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QUOTE(Coma @ Nov 19 2012, 01:56) *

Resist is a b*tch

I start with Weaken, then Silence when FSM have about 50% MP, then finally use DW skill's Blind


i use silence when FSM has 80% SP, give me time in case of cast failure. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
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post Nov 18 2012, 21:06
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QUOTE(varst @ Nov 19 2012, 01:58) *

It's called curse weaving

study, study, study

my deprecating prof is 40
someona can do the count? i don't know FSM lvl

and what are the chance for me to 'renew' my spell?
lets say weaken, silence, stun, PA, blind are active. lets take silence as example

last and maybe least
how many active status effect can a monster have?
the space provided seems to only have 5 place
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post Nov 18 2012, 21:15
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QUOTE(MirandaKerr @ Nov 18 2012, 21:06) *

study, study, study

my deprecating prof is 40
someona can do the count? i don't know FSM lvl

and what are the chance for me to 'renew' my spell?
lets say weaken, silence, stun, PA, blind are active. lets take silence as example

last and maybe least
how many active status effect can a monster have?
the space provided seems to only have 5 place

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the chance of adding a new effect to the target is equal to the ratio of the player's deprecating proficiency divided by the monster's level, minus 15% for every active deprecating effect past the first two

Monster level =/= PL

For some reason, weapon status like PA is not affected by Curse Weaving chance, but Weaving counts PA as debuff for other depreciating spells. Which is why for melee it is better apply Silence and Weaken first before landing weapon skills

You can have as many debuff as you can land, there is a script that will show extra rows for it (like Quickcast 2)

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post Nov 18 2012, 21:17
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Renewing a spell is the same as casting a new spell in terms of curse-weaving chance, so theres gonna be turns where silence isn't on if you use iris strike.
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post Nov 18 2012, 21:28
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QUOTE(fishinsea @ Nov 19 2012, 02:17) *

Renewing a spell is the same as casting a new spell in terms of curse-weaving chance, so theres gonna be turns where silence isn't on if you use iris strike.


no, its worse than that, T1 only deals ~5k(2~3 normal hit), so i follow with T2 (waiting 0 count) deals ~10k, much faster than brute force only. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
if poison is on too, i don't have a chance to cast silence (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

ugh, guess i'll still depend on SoL and Absorb (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
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post Nov 18 2012, 22:01
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Rushing my adept training in order to power lvl now. Hope this nightmare is gonna end soon (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

QUOTE(MirandaKerr @ Nov 18 2012, 15:28) *

no, its worse than that, T1 only deals ~5k(2~3 normal hit), so i follow with T2 (waiting 0 count) deals ~10k, much faster than brute force only. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
if poison is on too, i don't have a chance to cast silence (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

ugh, guess i'll still depend on SoL and Absorb (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)


Spirit stance with silent and weaken are more than enough. FSM isn't something you can just rush your burst and hope it'll die before you're out of option. Abuse your connection, keep SoL on, recast only silent and weaken when there're 3-4 turn left, and keep holding num 1 for the rest of the fight (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Nov 18 2012, 22:03
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QUOTE(MirandaKerr @ Nov 19 2012, 02:28) *

no, its worse than that, T1 only deals ~5k(2~3 normal hit), so i follow with T2 (waiting 0 count) deals ~10k, much faster than brute force only. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
if poison is on too, i don't have a chance to cast silence (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

ugh, guess i'll still depend on SoL and Absorb (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)


I think you should use spirit stance and cast silence than use special skill.
That will give you more chance to survive (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Nov 18 2012, 22:14
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nekokon, congratulation for lv200 .

I will stay 190s and level my scythe for sometimes. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Nov 18 2012, 22:16
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Blood tokens should be saved for IWBTH FSM at level 170, when you can frenzied blows and spirit shield and not worry about him one-shotting you. Infusions of divinity help greatly.

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So after copying that chunk into stylish, nothing happened. Magic score is for firefox only. Any solutions for chrome/iron?

Edit: Working now, thanks etothex.

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post Nov 18 2012, 23:09
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QUOTE(fishinsea @ Nov 18 2012, 12:16) *

Blood tokens should be saved for IWBTH FSM at level 170, when you can frenzied blows and spirit shield and not worry about him one-shotting you. Infusions of divinity help greatly.
So after copying that chunk into stylish, nothing happened. Magic score is for firefox only. Any solutions for chrome/iron?

did you remove first line:
@-moz-document domain("hentaiverse.org") << not for chrome

and add http://hentaiverse.org to "urls starting with"? I seem to recall it wouldnt work properly for me with the "domains on url" choice

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post Nov 18 2012, 23:52
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QUOTE(Coma @ Nov 18 2012, 19:31) *

Give me your estoc's PXP(1), the base potency at level 1

PXP(x) = PXP(1) * (1 + PXP(1)/1000)^(x-1)

x = potency level

Plug in PXP(1)'s value and x=11 and you will see how many required for level 10

Assuming your PXP(1) = 330, you need about 4297 to reach level 9 and 5715 for level 10

How can I find out the base potency at level 1? PXP for level 9 is 3218
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post Nov 19 2012, 00:02
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QUOTE(Mantra64 @ Nov 18 2012, 23:52) *

How can I find out the base potency at level 1? PXP for level 9 is 3218

Guess amnesia shard is only way, I roughly estimated your level 1 potency at 330, because it is closely matched to the level 8 potency (known variable).

In general, the PXP increment rate is about 130%. So 3218 for level 9 and 4297 for level 10

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post Nov 19 2012, 00:08
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@Mantra

Wolframalpha algebra solver gives pxp(1) = 329.57 (330)

All assuming coma's formula is correct. Btw, there is no way an exquisite would take 5500+ pxp for level 10.

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QUOTE(fishinsea @ Nov 19 2012, 00:08) *

@Mantra

Wolframalpha algebra solver gives pxp(1) = 329.57 (330)

All assuming coma's formula is correct. Btw, there is no way an exquisite would take 5500+ pxp for level 10.

Sorry, the 5500+ was for level 11
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post Nov 19 2012, 00:29
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QUOTE(Manian @ Nov 18 2012, 16:14) *

nekokon, congratulation for lv200 .

I will stay 190s and level my scythe for sometimes. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


Thanks (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
But I think it'd work better when I get out of this mess (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Can't even finish trio at Hell now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) There're tons of monsters other than the big 5 that can crush me like a cockroach, and I can't remember all of their name (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) Killed in 2 hits by something84 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Nov 19 2012, 00:38
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Killed in 2 hits by something84 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)


That's Hito's dragonkin. Definitely one of the tougher ones.
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post Nov 19 2012, 01:47
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How hard is FSM? I just want its 200000c bonus; what do I need to beat it on normal at lv 110?
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