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It's unusual for a guy in Gold star club to ask that kind of question.

Not really—it takes months or years to accumulate a pretty sum through the Dawn event, so people who donated recently don't have any more Credits than you do.

can I survive 200s with this equipment

Damn, you have nicer equipment than I did at two hundred (fuck, you got better leggings than me now, lol, adb is low but when you factor in the dexterity which mine lacks it's about even). You'll be fine. The main thing you have to learn is which monster to spot and take care of (either by killing or deprecating). I'm not just talking about the big 5 either. Eventually you'll face the same monsters for so long that you'll be able to pick out the strong one in any group.

This post has been edited by T_Starrk: Nov 17 2012, 22:28

Hello, back for more advice from the friendly giants!

I think I'm doing somewhat ok but! I realized my proficiencies are horribly, horribly lacking.

Equipment proficiency
Two-handed
6.39
Dual wielding
5.85
Heavy armor
19.49

I've been trying to spam IWBTH crude IW but the prof gain isn't keeping up with level gain XD And reading all the 200+ horrors has got my hackles on the rise. I'm pretty far from there but this isn't a problem is it?

You are still VERY low to grind for proficiencies. Level 200 is still a long way off for you, and your proficiency cap is your level.

You're best off grinding your level until 180-190, then grinding proficiencies. Use a weaker weapon (crude/fair/average of the vampire/banshee/ilthid) to grind proficiencies with, since they will do less damage than an of slaughter weapon, and have a chance to steal some hp/mp/sp. Worry about grinding proficiencies when you're close to 50/100 to unlock a new skill. Also, stick to one weapon type until you are higher, it's much easier/faster to grind profs after you have trained a few assimilator levels.

Hello, back for more advice from the friendly giants!

I think I'm doing somewhat ok but! I realized my proficiencies are horribly, horribly lacking.

Equipment proficiency
Two-handed
6.39
Dual wielding
5.85
Heavy armor
19.49

I've been trying to spam IWBTH crude IW but the prof gain isn't keeping up with level gain XD And reading all the 200+ horrors has got my hackles on the rise. I'm pretty far from there but this isn't a problem is it?

You are 140 levels away from facing the horror of level 200, so take your time and learn about the mechanic of HV.

For prof, you dont have to grind, it will come naturally as long as you stick to one style (people grind for prof only when they switch styles).

As for IWBTH Crude IW, dont use Slaughter weapons or those with PA, kill slowly is the main point of grinding prof.

Haha ok I guess I'm looking too far ahead. Sorry to post so much but I had forgotten to ask another question:

Rah's credit farming guide![list=1]
[*]Complete the high monster volume arenas on the highest dificulty you can handle (BT)

Does this mean I should be able to do all my arenas at BT? Because I can do maybe the first quarter at IWBTH, the next quarter at BT, but really the rest I have to do heroic/hard or I die horribly.

Does this mean I should be able to do all my arenas at BT? Because I can do maybe the first quarter at IWBTH, the next quarter at BT, but really the rest I have to do heroic/hard or I die horribly.

Ignore the BT part for now, do them on whatever difficulty that lets you finish them using almost all your potions (which should all be mana)

Is IA1 for haste even worth it? Same mana cost/turn and cast time for haste is unnoticable... only spark looks significantly better but you don't want spark on for the first half of an arena/IW anyways.

I think assimilator/grinding proficiencies is a complete waste. I have no assimilator training and I don't grind and my main style, dual wield, is maxed and two-hand is near max. I didn't even start using two-hand until after lv.200 and I was able to get it to two-thirds of my level in no time (like 1-2 weeks). The farther away your prof is from your level the faster it goes. Seriously, don't grind, it's a waste of time. Focus on leveling. Eventually leveling will slow down and your profs will catch up.

Ignore the BT part for now, do them on whatever difficulty that lets you finish them using almost all your potions (which should all be mana)

Is IA1 for haste even worth it? Same mana cost/turn and cast time for haste is unnoticable... only spark looks significantly better but you don't want spark on for the first half of an arena/IW anyways.

Only if you have IA2, with Light Armor and X-Magic, you shouldnt be attacked in the same turn casting Haste.

*cough*Spirit Shield*cough*

Or just keep the haste on when you cast it '<'.

Seriously though, for mages, spark(though haste is a good contender to avoid getting hit before you make a move). For melees, I think Protection is the real winner due it's awful duration and cast time.

Or just keep the haste on when you cast it '<'.

Seriously though, for mages, spark(though haste is a good contender to avoid getting hit before you make a move). For melees, I think Protection is the real winner due it's awful duration and cast time.

When you are over lvl 300, Spirit Shield is better since you already have like 80% physical mitigation right off the bat, plus it have double duration than Protection for same mana cost.

In IWBTH, Spirit Shield + 2 Godly Spirit potions can clear 200 rounds of IW.

This post has been edited by Coma: Nov 18 2012, 00:09

I think assimilator/grinding proficiencies is a complete waste. I have no assimilator training and I don't grind and my main style, dual wield, is maxed and two-hand is near max. I didn't even start using two-hand until after lv.200 and I was able to get it to two-thirds of my level in no time (like 1-2 weeks). The farther away your prof is from your level the faster it goes. Seriously, don't grind, it's a waste of time. Focus on leveling. Eventually leveling will slow down and your profs will catch up.

I'm not sure that's true for everyone. I'm leveling every day or two, and that's with no grinding and without even doing most of the arenas (I do the early ones hoping for some goddamn blood tokens (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) and I usually do Trio on Nightmare or Hell). I'm a mage and my cloth and staff profs need to catch up - they're 60 below my level. If I were actually able to Trio on BT or IWBTH I'd probably go up 2-3 levels per day.

This post has been edited by DemonEyesBob: Nov 18 2012, 00:10

I'm not sure that's true for everyone. I'm leveling every day or two, and that's with no grinding and without even doing most of the arenas (I do the early ones hoping for some goddamn blood tokens (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) and I usually do Trio on Nightmare or Hell). I'm a mage and my cloth and staff profs need to catch up - they're 60 below my level. If I were actually able to Trio on BT or IWBTH I'd probably go up 2-3 levels per day.

It might be different for mages (I'm gonna find out soon enough cause I'm gonna start maging on the side pretty soon, already got a staff). But yeah, you probably level much faster than me due to the gold star/awards you have. Really, it's like I fucking hit a wall as far as leveling goes (it takes forever compared to what it used to). Also, you can't do Trio on BT? Heh, I can do it on IWBTH with 4 or 5 godly manas (sometimes less if gem drops are friendly). Further (only?) proof that DW shade > mage (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) .

This post has been edited by T_Starrk: Nov 18 2012, 00:21

melee anything > mage in all but killing speed.

Expect maybe melee cotton of warding.

@Coma: Protection gets better the more your mitigation increases. If you have 60% of that mitigation from armor, then after protection you'd have 92% PMI, taking 60% less damage and thus cutting off good chunk of spirit shield cases. A 10% mitigation is a reason to not use protection, not 80%.

This post has been edited by Lement: Nov 18 2012, 00:29

It might be different for mages (I'm gonna find out soon enough cause I'm gonna start maging on the side pretty soon, already got a staff). But yeah, you probably level much faster than me due to the gold star/awards you have. Really, it's like I fucking hit a wall as far as leveling goes (it takes forever compared to what it used to). Also, you can't do Trio on BT? Heh, I can do it on IWBTH with 4 or 5 godly manas (sometimes less if gem drops are friendly). Further (only?) proof that DW shade > mage (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) .

I was gone for a while and missed a whole slew of updates, so my gear is rather behind the times :\

I used to DW before I maged, but I don't have any worthwhile shade - I think I've had one shadowdancer drop ever. I've been considering trying out heavy+2hander (I found some half-decent power slaughter), but I need an ethereal estoc before I give that an attempt. And since we were mentioning profs, those profs are shit so I'd probably have to bring them up as well.

Seriously, Elizabeth and Sakurai alone can rape me right now, they're so overpowered it's fucking ridiculous. I've got over 200 action speed and 9 burden (excuse my non-ethereal staff), and both of them are fast enough to hit me twice per turn and have enough evasion that even with 150% accuracy they're still dodging and resisting all the time.

Edit: Yeah, all exquisite fleet/shadow shade, I don't have that right now. I could probably IWBTH with your equipment too (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

This post has been edited by DemonEyesBob: Nov 18 2012, 00:37

9 burden
have enough evasion that even with 150% accuracy

Use shards for 0 burden and 200% accuracy.

Are we seriously need >150% accuracy in order to fight 501st and gangs ?
Cuz right now I only have about 120% with a balance mace, that mean they can avoid like >50% or something ? (not to mention we can't do anything to their parry rate)

Are we seriously need >150% accuracy in order to fight 501st and gangs ?
Cuz right now I only have about 120% with a balance mace, that mean they can avoid like >50% or something ? (not to mention we can't do anything to their parry rate)

Theoretically you would need 300% accuracy for 100% counter-evade

As for parry, Weapon Skill + SS is pretty much the only way

So I finally made it to 70 and got my hands on regen. But! Right now regen only lasts 11 turns for me and heals about 10% more damage than cure 1, costing 25% more mana. Which actually makes it worse than cure 1? Under that reasoning, I'm sticking to cure 1 for now.

I'm thinking this is a problem with my prof? I have curative at 19.

So I finally made it to 70 and got my hands on regen. But! Right now regen only lasts 11 turns for me and heals about 10% more damage than cure 1, costing 25% more mana. Which actually makes it worse than cure 1? Under that reasoning, I'm sticking to cure 1 for now.

I'm thinking this is a problem with my prof? I have curative at 19.

Regen is good because you dont have to manually cast cure (wasting action turn), just bring more mana potion instead (or cast regen while in channeling)

Regen's heal damage is based on curative, but its duration is based on supportive

Are we seriously need >150% accuracy in order to fight 501st and gangs ?
Cuz right now I only have about 120% with a balance mace, that mean they can avoid like >50% or something ? (not to mention we can't do anything to their parry rate)

Don't worry about it that much, ACC will come naturally, you might want to turn down the difficulty a notch after 200 but it'll get better. Currently I'm at 155%+ so a shard will take care of all hit needs.

Theoretically you would need 300% accuracy for 100% counter-evade

No.
"In other words, a spell accuracy of 150% will never fail the "miss" roll, and reduces the target's effective Evade by 50%."
So with 200% hit all evade will be negated.

e: (did see the next page too late. :<)

Regen's heal damage is based on curative, but its duration is based on supportive

Pretty sure that's not the case either, both is based on curative.

This post has been edited by Temchy: Nov 18 2012, 02:08