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Nov 16 2012, 14:15
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nakata545
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@kegstand For the most part, at your level, the most important thing should be leveling up to get access to better titles, arenas, and most importantly abilities. The best way for that is Random Encounters at the highest difficulty you can manage, and arenas as well for the Loot drop, credit and experience bonuses
With equips, the quickest improvements will probably be from better equips, either from drops, or WTS. If you want to Dual wield use a rapier of balance for your offhand and try to get your hands on a good 2hand at least for later when arenas get so long they become almost intolerable without domino strikes, but thats a while away.
Melee abilities are incredibly easy, grab as many of the tanks you can, excluding exp tanks as they are a bit wasteful at low levels since they can be better spent on things like weaken and haste (which you should definitely get)
In battle stratagy at your level is just hit monsters, keep up buffs like haste and SV/Protection depending on light/heavy armor and spirit stance to speed things up
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Nov 16 2012, 15:29
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limitbreak
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Hey guys, I just pummelled FSM to kingdom come got a pony as a clear with a chaos token. Does anyone know a suitable price for the pony in WTS? Also, is Heartseeker worth putting 5AP into? I know it's been nerfed since the last update so I'd like your opinions. Thanks in advance~!
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Nov 16 2012, 15:40
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Nekokon
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QUOTE(limitbreak @ Nov 16 2012, 09:29)  Hey guys, I just pummelled FSM to kingdom come got a pony as a clear with a chaos token. Does anyone know a suitable price for the pony in WTS? Also, is Heartseeker worth putting 5AP into? I know it's been nerfed since the last update so I'd like your opinions. Thanks in advance~!
About 40k. And more duration for heartseeker is still good, as it cost tons of mana already. If you feel like you're fine just having it whenever you get channeling, then feel free to put point sw else. I wouldn't pass on 25% dmg and 10% crit though.
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Nov 16 2012, 15:51
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MirandaKerr
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QUOTE(Manian @ Nov 16 2012, 14:55)  umm... don't know how to say it, but.. main hand is most of your damage. why you spend more for off-hand.
i used a dagger as off hand before, and killing mobs on IWBTH without rapier takes longer and longer as i lvl-up. and thanks to rapier i can kill FSM on heroic faster than using dagger on hard. and my main hand is still useful on IWBTH atm. QUOTE(limitbreak @ Nov 16 2012, 15:11)  Probably to increase offhand chance and PA abuse. Stunning FSM can be death for the unprepared. I still need another blood token for it so still waiting. Just remember that magical attacks are absorbed and not physical ones.
my offhand chance are about the same as previous, just need that PA on FSM. at ~625k hp my club does ~1k-1.5k without PA, bleed ~150-200 * 3 round/offhand proc using a rapier with PA, my damage * 1.5 for 4 round/offhand proc 3 round bleed = 1 round PA (now thats speed) and a rapier is what makes me want to try FSM on heroic, because killing FSM ~400k hp on hard using dagger is just like forever.
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Nov 16 2012, 17:54
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Rah
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QUOTE(Kenzaki Kazuma @ Nov 16 2012, 02:45)  I have zero knowledge about light armors, so, yeah, regarding that: 1. What are the pros/cons of light armors compared to heavy ones?
Pros - More methods of damage avoidance
- Lowbie friendly
- Easier to transition into than Heavy
- Higher action speed vs Heavy
- A better compliment to DW (In my opinion)
- Shade is cheaper than Slaughter
Cons - More reliant on buffs and resources than Heavy
- Requires more micromanaging
- Has less margin for error
- Is not suitable for very deep dives in CF/IW/GF on Higher difficulties
- If using Mace kill speed is slower than Heavy Estoc users
QUOTE 2. What build should i use to get the most out of light armors? Do i need to alter mine if i've already used to heavy armors? Full Shade of Fleet/Shadowdancer. Particularly pieces with High ADB, Evade, DEX and AGI as your base requirements. If your stats are relatively even then you don't need to worry about EXP allocation. The correct gear will focus your stats in the right area anyway. QUOTE 3. Do i need to mix & match kevlar & shade armors like i do to heavy ones (plate & power) to get the most out of them?
Hmm. Unless you feel you die too much and have a Legendary Kevlar of Protection with high PMI sitting around don't bother. Heavy can mix Plate and Power because of diminishing returns on PMI and the additive bonus to base damage. With Light the bonus ADB you can get is much smaller and PMI between exceptional Kevlar and Superior+ Shade isn't very high. Your Actions Speed will allow you to double tap even the fastest monsters. Combined with evade and parry you won't have to worry about damage untill you fight against 6+ mob waves. QUOTE 4. I heard that you can be an ideal battlecaster with shade pieces of arcanist. Is that true? Thanks in advance (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) No clue.
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Nov 16 2012, 18:17
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PK678353
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QUOTE(limitbreak @ Nov 16 2012, 09:29)  Hey guys, I just pummelled FSM to kingdom come got a pony as a clear with a chaos token. Does anyone know a suitable price for the pony in WTS? Also, is Heartseeker worth putting 5AP into? I know it's been nerfed since the last update so I'd like your opinions. Thanks in advance~!
40-50k. But I thought FSM was a guaranteed equip drop? If nothing else, this just straight up confirms that Tenboro's messed with the loot code since the wiki article was last accurate. I'll laugh if we're now running the Artifact -> Pony roll first, then running the equip drop code. If Heartseeker is as good for melee as AF is for mage, dear god yes throw 5 AP at that shit. Actually, with melee's slower (roundwise) clear speed, the extra time is even more valuable.
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Nov 16 2012, 18:18
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MirandaKerr
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since my DW prof has reached 82 ( (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) and (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) ) here a question in using 2H (the following will be done in normal mode) - which one you hit first? (number/letter/position) and why?
- is crushing damage that bad?
- can an elemental scythe/slaughter OHKO mobs?
currently use this Exquisite Mace of Slaughter, usually need 2-3 hit but some mob need 5 hit to kill (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) edit fyi, 20 2H prof is there no hotkey for skill (cleave and friends) ? This post has been edited by MirandaKerr: Nov 16 2012, 18:21
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Nov 16 2012, 18:39
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rally9981
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1. Hit the one in the middle first. Reason: too obvious 2. It's bad because most high lvl monster i encounter are giant or dragon which's quite resistant to crushing. Other than those two, it's not bad 3. Yes it can ( in normal mode for me) 4. You have to install HV STA tool to have skill hotkey
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Nov 16 2012, 18:40
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varst
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QUOTE(MirandaKerr @ Nov 17 2012, 00:18)  since my DW prof has reached 82 ( (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) and (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) ) here a question in using 2H (the following will be done in normal mode) - which one you hit first? (number/letter/position) and why?
- is crushing damage that bad?
- can an elemental scythe/slaughter OHKO mobs?
currently use this Exquisite Mace of Slaughter, usually need 2-3 hit but some mob need 5 hit to kill (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) edit fyi, 20 2H prof is there no hotkey for skill (cleave and friends) ? For 2H, I just hit the monsters in the middle. You should probably hit the one a bit aside though, as you can only hit 5 mobs at max with less than 100 proficiency. Crushing will only become worse and worse till you hit 200, when it's plainly shitty. Maybe a scythe can kill mobs in one hit on normal, who knows.
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Nov 16 2012, 18:40
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Lement
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3. not necessarily HVStat, tiap's github has a standalone.
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Nov 16 2012, 18:46
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Rah
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QUOTE(MirandaKerr @ Nov 16 2012, 10:18)  since my DW prof has reached 82 ( (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) and (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) ) here a question in using 2H (the following will be done in normal mode) - which one you hit first? (number/letter/position) and why?
- is crushing damage that bad?
- can an elemental scythe/slaughter OHKO mobs?
currently use this Exquisite Mace of Slaughter, usually need 2-3 hit but some mob need 5 hit to kill (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) edit fyi, 20 2H prof is there no hotkey for skill (cleave and friends) ? 1. Middle of the pack or troublesome enemies. The former so I can proc my weapon effect on as many targets as possible. The latter to kill the troublesome mob or to make sure the effect is proc'ed on it immediately. 2. Not really. The mobs with high crush mitigation have high hp and end so they much longer to kill. That's why void is invaluable for non Estocs in the 2H realm. 3. You can with a good weapon, Heartseeker and Spirit Stance. A really good Scythe is nice because of the high bleed DOT that will finish mobs off. 4. That mace will slowly become obsolete as you approach level 150. You could max it but it's more worth it to find an ethereal replacement soon or save for one.
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Nov 16 2012, 19:09
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MirandaKerr
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QUOTE(rally9981 @ Nov 16 2012, 23:39)  1. Hit the one in the middle first. Reason: too obvious 2. It's bad because most high lvl monster i encounter are giant or dragon which's quite resistant to crushing. Other than those two, it's not bad 3. Yes it can ( in normal mode for me) 4. You have to install HV STA tool to have skill hotkey
uh, i didn't pay much attention in my HV setting mine is HV STA v5.4.0 i have enabled and tried the skill hotkey but nothing happen. and may i see your scythe? QUOTE(Rah @ Nov 16 2012, 23:46)  4. That mace will slowly become obsolete as you approach level 150. You could max it but it's more worth it to find an ethereal replacement soon or save for one.
but at least you have to admit that it is a good mace. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) though i forgot whether i bought it or just a mobs drop.
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Nov 16 2012, 19:21
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Manian
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QUOTE can an elemental scythe/slaughter OHKO mobs? sure, It can. If it's small group with High wdb scythe, spirit stance alone can do that in normal mode. heartseeker will increase the chance but not every time and some time got lucky can kill a small group in single strike This post has been edited by Manian: Nov 16 2012, 19:22
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Nov 16 2012, 19:21
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rally9981
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QUOTE(MirandaKerr @ Nov 17 2012, 00:09)  uh, i didn't pay much attention in my HV setting mine is HV STA v5.4.0 i have enabled and tried the skill hotkey but nothing happen. and may i see your scythe? but at least you have to admit that it is a good mace. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) though i forgot whether i bought it or just a mobs drop. I dont use hotkey much so i dont really know how hotkey in HVStat works. Btw here's my scythe http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=49a71e9cc2It did wipe out 3 mobs with one hit back when i was around your level; a critical hit. But i dont use it anymore, cant go far with it. Talking about mace, my mace doesnt seem to lose much http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=181e9552ecThis post has been edited by rally9981: Nov 16 2012, 19:23
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Nov 16 2012, 19:24
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Coma
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QUOTE(MirandaKerr @ Nov 16 2012, 19:09)  i have enabled and tried the skill hotkey but nothing happen.
You sure you checked the "Show skill button" option?
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Nov 16 2012, 19:28
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Coma
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QUOTE(rally9981 @ Nov 16 2012, 19:21)  I dont use hotkey much so i dont really know how hotkey in HVStat works. Btw here's my scythe http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=49a71e9cc2It did wipe out 3 mobs with one hit back when i was around your level; a critical hit. But i dont use it anymore, cant go far with it. Talking about mace, my mace doesnt seem to lose much http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=181e9552ecBuy an ethereal scythe of slaughter instead. 70WDB + 20% bleed is more than enough to wipe out 5~7 mobs in one hit. And it is cheap now that bleed has been nerfed many patches ago Of course, you could IW the mace to max level and wreck havoc with hallowforged (void) damage This post has been edited by Coma: Nov 16 2012, 19:28
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Nov 16 2012, 19:34
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rally9981
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QUOTE(Coma @ Nov 17 2012, 00:28)  Buy an ethereal scythe of slaughter instead. 70WDB + 20% bleed is more than enough to wipe out 5~7 mobs in one hit. And it is cheap now that bleed has been nerfed many patches ago
Of course, you could IW the mace to max level and wreck havoc with hallowforged (void) damage
I see no reason to use scythe at the moment since stun help me a lot to get far in arena without having to use potions. And since that mace is a superior, i guess i'll wait til i get a magnificent or at least exquisite before trying level them up. Seriously i'm still wearing some fine shade at the moment (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
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Nov 16 2012, 19:47
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MirandaKerr
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i usually click the skill button that appear on the left-side of monster. but the hotkey won't work.
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Nov 16 2012, 19:53
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varst
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QUOTE(MirandaKerr @ Nov 17 2012, 01:47)  i usually click the skill button that appear on the left-side of monster. but the hotkey won't work.
Update HVSTAT. It has been stated in the screencap that the skill button won't work with hotkey.
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Nov 16 2012, 22:35
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Manian
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I must return my word on estoc.
mix kevlar+shade +estoc are not that bad as I thought. even you wear more shade It just need right play style.
go on medium diffculty medium round run It's faster killing than mace/scythe when harder diffculty
need more buff and cure since it's not long run , not need to worry about mana pot.
It's good if you wanna balance between real time and stamina cost effective
just my feeling anyway, not doing something statistic.
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