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so if i get this right, a level 10 rapier with 30 damage bonus and 40 hit chance bonus would still perform better than a level 70 rapier with only 10 damage bonus and 24 hit chance bonus? o.O

Yeah, but if you level it up, it becomes 40 damage and 50 hit chance.

well, i trained adept learner up to lvl. 50 or so as an adition to investing into exp-tanks.

You should start putting ap in exp tanks when adept learner is 1/3x cost of 1 ap. That's for me 3.5k, which is somewhere in the 90s.

auto-cast-slots consume some mana while they are active?

Yes, I took the first 2 credit perks first. Now saving up for rainbow.

All these new guys power-leveling with IW and then reaching high-level play not knowing what to do. Back in my day, all we had was GF.

Back in the level 80s, I could level up by doing 200 rounds of normal. Now it's 450 rounds. I still don't have enough focus to do them. Maging is great and not time consuming, but it takes focus. Thus, when I visit iw, I end up more and more doing cakefest (which gives 50/250k exp per round).

I usually watch TV or movies while Item Worlding.

I only pay attention when I'm doing the higher level arenas, where there is some actual cost to screwing up and dying. Or if I run into a Boss. I have a big ass monitor though.

And about the speed he's leveled up, it's not really that fast. IIRC I was like level 20 something back in late June.
Then there's that guy who went to 200 in like 2 months? That's fast.

And about the speed he's leveled up, it's not really that fast. IIRC I was like level 20 something back in late June.
Then there's that guy who went to 200 in like 2 months? That's fast.

I'm not saying it's fast. I'm saying that he managed to lvled up using a horrible build.

I usually watch TV or movies while Item Worlding.

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I only pay attention when I'm doing the higher level arenas, where there is some actual cost to screwing up and dying. Or if I run into a Boss. I have a big ass monitor though.

Maging requires attention.

This post has been edited by Golden Sun: Aug 5 2010, 02:42

Maging requires attention.

No it doesn't. Hotkey for T-Storm. Hit R. MM stragglers. And I'm not even a proper mage.

I only pay attention when I'm doing the higher level arenas

the only part that really requires attention is entering those captchas for me. -.-

I have a big ass monitor though.

one big and one small monitor! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (plus video projector projecting on the ceiling over my bed. ^^)

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) I am a mage. Heh.

But yeah like cmal said. It's all about the shortcuts.

the only part that really requires attention is entering those captchas for me. -.-

I've never run into the captchas yet. How many rounds of grindfest does it take for those to start popping up?

How many rounds of grindfest does it take for those to start popping up?

I tried it out. It was around 25-30 (dead, enter, still dead, eject). I haven't done a grindfest for a long time.

I've never run into the captchas yet. How many rounds of grindfest does it take for those to start popping up?

guess it depends on difficulty and time of day you play, i noticed. around 10 am to 16 am or so monday to thursday or so, i barely see them either, but at night and on weekends, they appear after like 2 or three defeats and re-enters of the grind-fest?
for me, they are the main reason to rather fight in the item world - entering all those captures requires more attention than i want to put on that side-screen. ^^

so to met thouse you need a higer lvl of dificulty ? i only play in the first dificulty lvl lol,plaing normal its hard specialy when 3 boses show up lol 3 health potions and 1 mana just to kill them on normal ^^'

so to met thouse you need a higer lvl of dificulty ? i only play in the first dificulty lvl lol,plaing normal its hard specialy when 3 boses show up lol 3 health potions and 1 mana just to kill them on normal ^^'

not really - the captchas also showed up on lower levels for me. o.O

I want to level up faster than the speed I'm at now. Just getting to 100 feels like its going to take years. Does anyone have a flimsy piece of equipment they can sell me so I can do some battletoads IW? I never get one of those as a drop.

Captcha's appear when you enter and leave grindfest too often. Not sure if it also happens to item world also.

Bottom line is, there's a counter for how often you enter grindfest per hour. Grindfest normally doesn't last long for lower level people, you end up going in for like 10-40 rounds and get out pretty quickly again. So you have to re-enter more often. For item worlds, since we only "can" enter 10 times at most, the captcha never triggers because I think 10 times in ONE hour IS the limit.

And even for lower level people, Item worlds last atleast 50-100 rounds. So you never notice the captcha triggering anyways.

but once the captchas appear, they will even appear the next day - until you entered one captcha at least. and even after that i sometimes get a new captcha when i reenter the grindfest sometimes. (but captchas really only appear on grindfests)

somehow it seems to me like captchas appearing is not only dependend on "how often you reenter" but also on the time of day you play, as if it's connected with the number of people playing right now or something. o.O


anyways:

Equipment stats go up with level (for example, I get over 100% bonus when I Niten using a katana I've been leveling in IW). If you've got a fantastic piece of equipment, it may be worth it to level it in IW if you can't find a replacement that's higher in level. See my sig? One of those links there will help you determine whether or not an equip is good.

Support spells automatically target the player, just click it twice. Hostile spells you click once and pick an enemy. The spell description tells you which applies. And let's put it this way: You can cast a Shield and Regen combo once and you would get more out of it than an equivalent number of Cures MP-wise. You can also pick up Mana and Mystic Gems which give you more MP and a free super-powered spell.

well, i use the key-combos for casting spells, it somehow feels more comfortable than clicking around. that way, i only need to press the key-combo and the spell is selected and casted if self-targeting or casted on target selected by the number i press afterwards. ^^
i have never seen mystic gems though. only stuff like the bubblegum and such (the bubble-gum was quite helpfull in fighting the ring of blood but still did not help me that much. v.v)
that Shield-regen-combo i will also try the next days, but maybe i should follow Golden Sun's advice and take a break. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

If you don't have enough mana items, stick health items in there. Shield Scrolls can also get you out of a pinch if you've got space and don't have anything else to fill it with.
No, I'm talking about how HP and MP are restored to full when you complete an arena.

i will try that. there are ever so many items collected during every fight but i cannot really see the sense of most of them - especially the spirit-regen-items are very useless for me. v.v
and cleaning the arena every time - i would still only be able to regen only 7 times that way (unless i would beat the higher levels that way somewhen somehow. ^^) but i guess it would also bring a lot of exp and credits? (i think i collected some credits the last time i entered an chalenge i allready had beaten? O.o)

Gossamer is mage gear -- its designed for magic casting. A fighter like you should use Silk. And Light armor is for the most part useless. Its supposed to fit in a niche between Heavy and Cloth, but it does neither well so its better to use Cloth AND Heavy. Unless you're lucky and have an amazing piece of Light.

so a fighting class should only use silk in cloth? and what material in light and heavy armor? leather for light (at least better than nothing for a slot)? and iron for heavy?

Your weapon choice needs to be based on your style and weapon synergies. Axes are strong, but have low accuracy -- pair them with a rapier or dagger to increase accuracy. Rapiers are weak, but have Penetrated Armor and high accuracy -- pair them with an axe or one of those ridiculous daggers that have shortsword stats. Shortswords are mediocre and work well with shields.

so best combo for two-handed would be an axe pared with rapier or dagger? and clubs are just for cases where there is no other weapon available? and for single-handed, shortswords paired with some strong shield would be recomended?
besides, how would i recognize a dagger that has shortsword stats? i cannot really see a difference between the daggers and the shortswords - except that shortswords values are always lower than those of the daggers. o.O

... guess it wasn't the best idea to just edit the post right after posting it because you guys are just way to fast responsing. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

well, i use the key-combos for casting spells, it somehow feels more comfortable than clicking around. that way, i only need to press the key-combo and the spell is selected and casted if self-targeting or casted on target selected by the number i press afterwards. ^^
i have never seen mystic gems though. only stuff like the bubblegum and such (the bubble-gum was quite helpfull in fighting the ring of blood but still did not help me that much. v.v)

Mystic gems are a powerup. Like the mana/health/spirit gems that drop from monsters occasionally. You should always use powerups as they drop including the useless elemental shield ones, as if you already have a gem occupying a slot, you won't get anymore powerup drops. And mana/mystic gems are very useful.

that Shield-regen-combo i will also try the next days, but maybe i should follow Golden Sun's advice and take a break. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Regen should pretty much always be active. If your a melee character, shield as well. Cure is extemely inefficient for it's mana cost compared to the above.

i will try that. there are ever so many items collected during every fight but i cannot really see the sense of most of them - especially the spirit-regen-items are very useless for me. v.v

Well spirit restoratives see more use when you start using/needing Spark of Life, as Spark requires 50% of your spirit bar in order to activate. If nothing else, at least fill your item slots with lessers/average draughts and potions. You won't use them in more important situations like the RoB and they sell for a pittance, so might as well put them to use.

and cleaning the arena every time - i would still only be able to regen only 7 times that way (unless i would beat the higher levels that way somewhen somehow. ^^) but i guess it would also bring a lot of exp and credits? (i think i collected some credits the last time i entered an chalenge i allready had beaten? O.o)

The idea is to use various methods to reduce your reliance on the healer. Do an Item World, use a low level arena to full heal, do another Item World, go take a break for a bit, IW, Token of Healing, IW, break, etc. You could theoretically use items to heal up at the end of an IW too. For example, right before I clear an item I'm leveling I burn a mana draught or two so I don't have to use the healer.

You get the clear bonus for an arena once. After that, when you clear that arena again, you only get back the entry cost of said arena. If you die/flee the arena, you don't get that entry cost back, so be careful about that. Don't try to use the arena to heal if you have 1 life + 0 mana or something.

so a fighting class should only use silk in cloth? and what material in light and heavy armor? leather for light (at least better than nothing for a slot)? and iron for heavy?
so best combo for two-handed would be an axe pared with rapier or dagger? and clubs are just for cases where there is no other weapon available? and for single-handed, shortswords paired with some strong shield would be recomended?

You should use a mix of cloth and heavy ideally. How much heavy you use depends on the difficulty you're playing at. More heavy for cake, more/all cloth for higher difficulties. Silk for cloth and Plate for heavy. Don't use light unless you absolutely have nothing else, or you have a great piece of Dragonhide/Kevlar.

besides, how would i recognize a dagger that has shortsword stats? i cannot really see a difference between the daggers and the shortswords - except that shortswords values are always lower than those of the daggers. o.O

You probably don't need to worry about it too much. Some really good daggers have really high bleed/damage multipliers while still retaining the advantages of daggers, low compromise and parry. But those are rare.

This post has been edited by Conquest101: Aug 5 2010, 14:33

got some AP and have some trouble deciding where to use them on...

mage build...

Fire AOE, then elec rating, fire rating

i understand the logic behind placing the AP on elec rating... ie. to increase the attack of my elec AOE... but why place the AP on fire AOE as well?

i thought the strategy is using elec AOE to hit all the monsters and then magic missile the reminding one or two monsters that are low on HP?

i thought the strategy is using elec AOE to hit all the monsters and then magic missile the reminding one or two monsters that are low on HP?

Fire AOE is important for arena. There's lots of minibosses that you want to kill quickly that's weak too fire (not to mention a lot of monsters in general that's weak to fire). The only miniboss that those 2 elements won't cover is mantra. In that case, you should get weaken (also important for bosses and above) and use magic missle/ether theft, or later try electric then fire explosion.
Another reason is that at your level, you won't kill many mobs by casting electric. You probably won't kill anyone in one shot with electric, but you will with fire. Since the purpose of maging is to prevent hits, it's better at lower levels to cast fire then clean up with electric rather than to try to one shot everyone with electric.

Double post. I know.

I've been trying out battletoads in the arenas and I got completely destroyed in A New Beginning. What strategy do you guys use?

Double post. I know.

I've been trying out battletoads in the arenas and I got completely destroyed in A New Beginning. What strategy do you guys use?

It's pretty tough doing battletoads arenas at your level.
Bring higher restorative items, use 2 tier spells, and bewilder the mini-bosses at least, ET is very important, and keep spark+absorb+SV+haste all time.