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May 23 2012, 13:40
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buktore
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Why not? Castlevania:SOTN have tons of food. I don't see why HV can't do the same... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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May 23 2012, 15:35
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TheGreyPanther
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This happened to me CODE 4 12 You have been defeated. 4 11 Ymhir hits you for 1055 crushing damage. 4 10 Fat Bottomed Girls hits you for 1207 crushing damage. 4 9 Ouzai crits you for 1620 crushing damage. 4 8 Your spirit shield absorbs 314 points of damage from the attack into 3.18 points of spirit damage. 4 7 Smaug hits you for 1620 piercing damage. 4 6 Your spirit shield absorbs 181 points of damage from the attack into 1.83 points of spirit damage. 4 5 You parry the attack from Neet132435. 4 4 Richie hits you for 1305 slashing damage. 4 3 You evade the attack from Ogiso Setsuna. 4 2 You gain the effect Protection. 4 1 You cast Protection. and the wiki says this QUOTE (IMG: http://ehwiki.org/images/2/25/Abilities_Spirit_Shield.png)Spirit Shield This protective veil activates for powerful blows that damage more than 25% of your max HP, absorbing the remainder as spirit damage. ¤Any attack that hits for more than 25% of your max health will cause you to lose exactly 25% of your health, with the remainder absorbed as damage to your spirit. ¤The amount of Spirit damage depends on the power of the blow that was absorbed, and is 40% of base (reducible to 20% at max AP) for blows that would otherwise take off 100% or more health, linearly reducing to 0 at exactly 25% damage. ¤The spell will fail if you don't have sufficient Spirit. The description of Spirit Shield seems a bit of. I had 6481 hp and 467 sp fully charged so that wasn't the problem. I understand that Spirit Shield activation is in someway random so I'm not wondering why it didn't activated for 5 of 7 hits. I'm wondering why it activated for the two attacks that takes nowhere near 25% of my health?
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May 23 2012, 15:44
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Kaosumx
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QUOTE(TheGreyPanther @ May 23 2012, 09:35)  This happened to me CODE 4 12 You have been defeated. 4 11 Ymhir hits you for 1055 crushing damage. 4 10 Fat Bottomed Girls hits you for 1207 crushing damage. 4 9 Ouzai crits you for 1620 crushing damage. 4 8 Your spirit shield absorbs 314 points of damage from the attack into 3.18 points of spirit damage. 4 7 Smaug hits you for 1620 piercing damage. 4 6 Your spirit shield absorbs 181 points of damage from the attack into 1.83 points of spirit damage. 4 5 You parry the attack from Neet132435. 4 4 Richie hits you for 1305 slashing damage. 4 3 You evade the attack from Ogiso Setsuna. 4 2 You gain the effect Protection. 4 1 You cast Protection. and the wiki says this The description of Spirit Shield seems a bit of. I had 6481 hp and 467 sp fully charged so that wasn't the problem. I understand that Spirit Shield activation is in someway random so I'm not wondering why it didn't activated for 5 of 7 hits. I'm wondering why it activated for the two attacks that takes nowhere near 25% of my health? Er, 1620 damage is 1/4 of your health, so it activated on those two hits to reduce the damage to 1620 and absorbed the rest. EDIT - And no activation is not random. Any attack that would deal more than 25% of your max HP in damage gets reduced to exactly 25% of your HP in damage with the rest absorbed as spirit damage. This post has been edited by Kaosumx: May 23 2012, 15:46
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May 23 2012, 15:59
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TheGreyPanther
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QUOTE(Kaosumx @ May 23 2012, 15:44)  Er, 1620 damage is 1/4 of your health, so it activated on those two hits to reduce the damage to 1620 and absorbed the rest.
EDIT - And no activation is not random. Any attack that would deal more than 25% of your max HP in damage gets reduced to exactly 25% of your HP in damage with the rest absorbed as spirit damage.
I guess I have never understood what it does really. When reading the log of attacks I thought the absorption of damage happened after the attack not before seems that was my mistake.
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May 23 2012, 19:09
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Razorflame
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I was given the suggestion to ask about two RoB arena strategies for MAGES here:
Real Life and FSM
Strategies for both, equipment set-ups, etc.
Please let me know via PM if and when you give me an answer to this so that I know to check this thread since I rarely check this thread.
This post has been edited by Razorflame: May 23 2012, 19:10
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May 23 2012, 19:19
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varst
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May 23 2012, 19:31
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rpgman1
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HV advice seems very useful, but why full trained Refined Aura? I can understand Scavenger and Pack Rat.
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May 23 2012, 19:38
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varst
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I'm making some adjustments on that now.
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May 23 2012, 19:51
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asxr
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Since the curse-weaving update, I've preferred to use silence over poison for IWBTH FSM. You'll lose out on the minimal damage poison has, and save spirit points that would be used if the skill/spirit attack does happen to connect when using poison over silence. With weaken up (and nerf/x-nerf for extra reduction, if necessary), only crits will break through SS and the rest of the damage can be recovered by Regen II, with a periodic cure here and there.
You'll only need SS if you have silence up, since at best he'll be able to only do 50% damage in one turn. Of course, better to be safe than sorry, but that's how things work out for me.
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May 23 2012, 19:57
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Razorflame
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QUOTE(varst @ May 23 2012, 12:19)  Ok, so then what equipment for RL and FSM? Full Heimdall Phase and a very good Katalox Staff for FSM? What about RL?
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May 23 2012, 20:11
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buktore
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QUOTE(Razorflame @ May 24 2012, 00:57)  Ok, so then what equipment for RL
T-shirt + jean work fine for me... If at home, I preferred either a pair of short or nude. PS. derp
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May 23 2012, 20:11
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Coma
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QUOTE(Razorflame @ May 23 2012, 19:57)  Ok, so then what equipment for RL and FSM? Full Heimdall Phase and a very good Katalox Staff for FSM? What about RL?
Destruction staff and whatever the best Heaven-sent/Demon-Fiend clothes you got, Soul prof is the average of both Divine and Forbidden prof. Why would you go for RL anyway? IPU has better loot roll bonus and is easier to manage than RL. I usually go for both FSM and IPU, just because I have Heimdall and Fenrir set.
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May 23 2012, 20:24
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rpgman1
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Never seen anyone taking on RL recently. Most people seem to go for FSM lately. I need to get some Heimdall equipment to battle FSM.
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May 23 2012, 20:26
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Razorflame
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QUOTE(Coma @ May 23 2012, 13:11)  Destruction staff and whatever the best Heaven-sent/Demon-Fiend clothes you got, Soul prof is the average of both Divine and Forbidden prof.
Why would you go for RL anyway? IPU has better loot roll bonus and is easier to manage than RL. I usually go for both FSM and IPU, just because I have Heimdall and Fenrir set.
Never beaten RL before, want the 50k C bonus (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I know, I know...I was inactive for a period of 9 months, and I never did get any good strategies to take on RL before I left. Getting good Heimdall/Fenrir Phase and a good Katalox staff would help me beat EoD as well, I think. This post has been edited by Razorflame: May 23 2012, 20:27
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May 23 2012, 20:28
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varst
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I've made all the necessary adjustments. See if it's better. QUOTE(asxr @ May 24 2012, 01:51)  Since the curse-weaving update, I've preferred to use silence over poison for IWBTH FSM.
Changed that already. Poison is a bad substitute for silence nowadays. QUOTE(Razorflame @ May 24 2012, 01:57)  Ok, so then what equipment for RL and FSM? Full Heimdall Phase and a very good Katalox Staff for FSM? What about RL?
FSM: heimdall/heaven-sent clothes /staff, whatever can boost your holy damage output. Strictly speaking heimdall staff may have a bit advantage against destruction staff, but the difference isn't that noticeable. RL: You can either use soul spells or just cast tons of magic missile. Magic missile may be slower, but you don't need to worry about mana usage. You need to use elementalist equips if you choose magic missile though. This post has been edited by varst: May 23 2012, 20:35
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May 23 2012, 20:37
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Razorflame
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QUOTE(varst @ May 23 2012, 13:28)  I've made all the necessary adjustments. See if it's better. Changed that already. Poison is a bad substitute for silence nowadays. FSM: heimdall/heaven-sent clothes /staff, whatever can boost your holy damage output. Strictly speaking heimdall staff may have a bit advantage against destruction staff, but the difference isn't that noticeable.
RL: You can either use soul spells or just cast tons of magic missile. Magic missile may be slower, but you don't need to worry about mana usage. You need to use elementalist equips if you choose magic missile though.
I think it might be best if I wait until Level 250 to get Soul Burst before killing RL. I think that will make the battle much easier.
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May 23 2012, 21:00
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Coma
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QUOTE(Razorflame @ May 23 2012, 20:37)  I think it might be best if I wait until Level 250 to get Soul Burst before killing RL. I think that will make the battle much easier.
If you just want the first clear bonus, then why not just rip it apart on Normal or Easy? It is not like RL being difficult to beat (both HP and damage are much lower than FSM) Generally, you can do it with cast Spirit Shield/Spark -> Soul Harvest -> whack proc to gain spirit -> cast Harvest again -> repeat, Destruction staff is all you will ever need anyway.
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May 23 2012, 21:16
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Razorflame
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QUOTE(Coma @ May 23 2012, 14:00)  If you just want the first clear bonus, then why not just rip it apart on Normal or Easy? It is not like RL being difficult to beat (both HP and damage are much lower than FSM)
Generally, you can do it with cast Spirit Shield/Spark -> Soul Harvest -> whack proc to gain spirit -> cast Harvest again -> repeat, Destruction staff is all you will ever need anyway.
I'll try it without anything special and see if I can do it. Thanks for the helpful info.
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May 23 2012, 21:36
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Razorflame
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LOL! Imperil+Infusion of Lightning+Wrath of Thor = RL dead in like 15 turns XD
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May 23 2012, 21:41
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Razorflame
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39 14 You gain 202060 Credits! 39 13 You gain 180702 EXP! 39 12 Your HP and MP have been fully restored! 39 11 Arena Token Bonus! [Token of Blood] 39 10 Arena Clear Bonus! [Fine Club of Slaughter] 39 9 Flying Spaghetti Monster dropped [Noodly Appendage] 39 8 You are Victorious! 39 7 Replenishment restores 140 points of magic. 39 6 Regeneration restores 527 points of health. 39 5 Regen II restores 339 points of health. 39 4 Flying Spaghetti Monster has been defeated.YAY!!! Imperil+Wrath of Thor+Infusion of Lightning FTW (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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