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post May 19 2012, 05:30
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QUOTE(varst @ May 18 2012, 23:26) *

Wait, if you're a mage then it doesn't matter (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Use the one which gives you the best MDB and EDB; either use heimdall or destruction staff.
Then start spamming banish on FSM, if you don't have enough mana then ET some from FSM (which also mean ET chance/duration of your staff is somewhat important).
As for armor, wear full heimdall/heaven-sent.
With silence, weaken, and spark, it should be pretty safe.

Dang, now I have to go find Heimdall/Heaven-sent equipment. All I got are a Gossamer Heaven-sent robe and gloves. Buying Heimdall is expensive in the WTS section. My Divine prof is only at 58.
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post May 19 2012, 05:57
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Can profs from armors bring my total prof past my level cap?
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post May 19 2012, 06:01
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Can profs from armors bring my total prof past my level cap?


Yes.
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post May 19 2012, 12:18
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Is it possible to have your prof to high?
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post May 19 2012, 15:23
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Is it possible to have your prof to high?


Nope.
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post May 19 2012, 21:07
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How efficient are auras past rank 1?
Is there any reason to put any aura points into ranking them up before getting all the aura slots?
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post May 19 2012, 22:13
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QUOTE(penguinzrock @ May 20 2012, 03:07) *

How efficient are auras past rank 1?
Is there any reason to put any aura points into ranking them up before getting all the aura slots?


Yes, because you need credits (through training) to open aura slots beyond the fourth one, and you don't get any benefit if you only put aura points into the slots without 'opening' the slot first.
And even if you have that slot, you still need to put aura point into it to get the 7% EXP bonus.

It's not that aura past rank 1 is more efficient, but spending credits on additional aura slots when you can spend them on adept learner is surely inefficient.
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post May 19 2012, 22:33
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I already have invested 3 levels into Pack Rat, should I invest more credits into it or go for Refined Aura instead?
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post May 19 2012, 22:59
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Max pack rat. It's probably the only training that is a "definite max". Everything else is up to preference.
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post May 19 2012, 23:15
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QUOTE(dcherry @ May 19 2012, 16:59) *

Max pack rat. It's probably the only training that is a "definite max". Everything else is up to preference.

Makes sense considering going long rounds in the Arena and IW anyway. Just need to get more credits for the last 2.
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post May 19 2012, 23:48
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Felt like typing something... So here some random advice and opinion.

• I kinda want to say this since yesterday with the talk about FSM; the best deprecating spell for melee is Slow

Pack Rat...? Well, do you need more potion?

• I don't know what's more 'efficient' ... But +1% crit is certainly more awesome than +xx% exp bonus.
--Why would anyone based their aura choice on anything beside the attribute and stat bonus, anyway?
--I bought Black Aura solely for +2 STR. True Story.

• All equipment sucks, so the answer to 'Should I upgrade my gear?' is always 'Yes'
--But the question: 'Do I need to upgrade my gear?' is a different thing altogether though

• For new player: All HV-related hath perk is overprice and nothing but a luxury (that's why I kept calling them 'Bling') ... So you don't have to 'save' your money to buy them.

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post May 20 2012, 06:15
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Recently, I've been getting 1-shot on IWBTH hourlies. This never used to happen before. Is this normal for my level or is it due to something wrong with my build?

Currently:
Weapon
Helmet
Body
Hands
Legs
Feet

And I have all my abilities specced into Exp Boost, Health Boost, Cure, 2 Haste, 1 Poison, Protection, 5 Shadow Veil, and Aura/Item Slots.
My stats are:

STR 68/35/0
DEX 47/18/0
AGI 42/2/0
END 56/18/0
INT 25/1/0
WIS 41/1/0

My battle order consists of applying Shadow Veil then Protection, then just attacking until I need to use a cure or a potion.

Is there something I'm doing wrong, or could do more efficiently with not a lot of credits? (30k-)

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post May 20 2012, 06:20
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Apr 30 2012, 23:21) *

Safer? Yes. Faster? No way in hell.

I can say this because I've done IWBTH DwD both ways.

112 11 You gain 1224 Credits!
112 10 You gain 295548519 EXP!
112 9 Arena Clear Bonus! [Exquisite Shade Boots of Negation]
112 8 Rhaegal dropped [Godly Health Potion]
112 7 Viserion dropped [Godly Health Potion]
112 6 You are Victorious!

I take this back now. Mage is significantly faster now thanks to Imperil, even with my garbage Heimdall set. Although a significantly more forged staff probably helped. Took 3 hours. Not even remotely worth it, and it's even less than half of the EXP from when I initially finished it with lower EXP bonus.
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post May 20 2012, 06:26
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ May 20 2012, 04:20) *

112 11 You gain 1224 Credits!
112 10 You gain 295548519 EXP!
112 9 Arena Clear Bonus! [Exquisite Shade Boots of Negation]
112 8 Rhaegal dropped [Godly Health Potion]
112 7 Viserion dropped [Godly Health Potion]
112 6 You are Victorious!

I take this back now. Mage is significantly faster now thanks to Imperil, even with my garbage Heimdall set. Although a significantly more forged staff probably helped. Took 3 hours. Not even remotely worth it, and it's even less than half of the EXP from when I initially finished it with lower EXP bonus.



100 rounds vs 500 or was it 600 before? And it is too bad about the exp, with fighting 3 monsters in the last round you don't get much else then the exp (even with your training) There should be a trophy or something for doing them.
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post May 20 2012, 06:40
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DwD didn't even exist until everything was changed to 100 rounds. I never finished the 500 round one before it was changed, fortunately.

And far in the past Tenboro said these will have trophies eventually. Presumably whenever the monster lab is finished and monster class can be upgraded.
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post May 20 2012, 06:52
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QUOTE(penguinzrock @ May 20 2012, 08:15) *

Recently, I've been getting 1-shot on IWBTH hourlies. This never used to happen before. Is this normal for my level or is it due to something wrong with my build?

My battle order consists of applying Shadow Veil then Protection, then just attacking until I need to use a cure or a potion.

Is there something I'm doing wrong, or could do more efficiently with not a lot of credits? (30k-)

Do you use Spark of Life scrolls? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) 'Cause you can be one-shotted on IWBTH hourlies regardless of your level or stats, especially when it contains 8-10 monsters.
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post May 20 2012, 06:53
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ May 20 2012, 04:40) *

DwD didn't even exist until everything was changed to 100 rounds. I never finished the 500 round one before it was changed, fortunately.

And far in the past Tenboro said these will have trophies eventually. Presumably whenever the monster lab is finished and monster class can be upgraded.


ya, I recall that. It just seem it isn't worth the time doing them on IWBTH (given its alot faster now). You got 1 drop and its a Exquisite Shade but doesn't seem to be worth the 3 hours you spent, did you get any other equipment drops or even 10% trophies? The exp will always be nice but more drops/trophies would be better.

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post May 20 2012, 07:19
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I remember getting a Fine Cotton from a Yuki at round 75. You'd think getting the rare equipment drop from an IWBTH legendary would be something you can't get on any given Normal round, but I guess not.
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post May 20 2012, 07:52
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QUOTE(buktore @ May 20 2012, 05:48) *

Felt like typing something... So here some random advice and opinion.

• I kinda want to say this since yesterday with the talk about FSM; the best deprecating spell for melee is Slow

• I don't know what's more 'efficient' ... But +1% crit is certainly more awesome than +xx% exp bonus.
--Why would anyone based their aura choice on anything beside the attribute and stat bonus, anyway?
--I bought Black Aura solely for +2 STR. True Story.


- Agree and disagree on Slow. It's very good against monsters when you don't need to fight 300 rounds+, but slow still has one of the the shortest duration among current spells. You may need quite a few levels before you can keep slow on a few 30~40 rounds.
It does work well with haste though, but then you may need to suggest which deprecating spells you will choose.

- For aura, it's because the stat gain from auras have minimal effect.
Maybe I should say 'think if you have the need to open new aura slots'. Once I've tried to analyze this, and I would say people should finish refined aura at around lv.150~170.

QUOTE(penguinzrock @ May 20 2012, 12:15) *

Recently, I've been getting 1-shot on IWBTH hourlies. This never used to happen before. Is this normal for my level or is it due to something wrong with my build?


1. Don't mix armor types. Don't use equips which are too underleveled.
Which means you should get some lv. 200+ heavy armor from WTS.
Also, use a better weapon. Longsword it's the best choice. Try to find a mace/estoc of slaughter and try again.
Power armor can be too 'soft' at your level if it isn't 'of protection' suffix. You still need better protection at your level before you get enough from your character's stat.

2. Don't try IWBTH hourlies immediately. Try to raise the difficulty when you can handle the easier ones. If you constantly get 1-shoted, then you should consider lowering your difficulty again.
At your level you won't face too many monsters. Those 8-10 monsters should start at lv. 100.

3. Ability points....if you are power-leveling then there should be no immediately problem. Though almost everyone who power-level will eventually face the problems of insufficient proficiency.
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post May 20 2012, 08:05
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May I hv some tips for my build?
Im 2hand - light melee

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