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Jun 1 2010, 08:58
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yuripe
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QUOTE(kingwolf @ Jun 1 2010, 11:47)  Hey guys! I'm thinking about playing the Ring of Blood, which monster should I face first? Should I use the 1h rapier and an off-h equipment or the 2h estoc? How much HP should I have, should I get a bunch of HP Tank abilities?
PS, I already know about the Penetrate + Poison strategy.
if use 2-H, you'll receive more damage(you have must known about that, haven't you ?). use rapier + shield(if 1-H) / dagger (if dual wield). if the boss that you want beat, that's all of you, but with your level, you must have 'bewilder', and 'weaken' full AP. with them, you can challenge all boss now. choose MBP firstly if you want cuz MBP is the strongest boss. so if you can beat him so easily, you can beat the others like a piece of cake. HP tanks full if you want(MP tanks, too), but fulling 'bewilder', and 'weaken' firstly.
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Jun 2 2010, 17:58
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Alpha 7
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Just discovered something yesterday... Weaken can cause Channeling to occur. I was doing a Weaken spam, and when I ran out of mana, I whacked the last mob with my Staff and triggered Ether theft so, I cast a few more Weakens, and the third one triggered Channeling. The benefits of this are: Weaken doesn't kill the mob in the attempt to Channel, you get more tries to catch Channeling, and Ether Theft more then pays the MP cost to cast Weaken. While it's not al3ays advisable for a mage to stand around and focus on just one mob, it's a good pay to "pay" for Arcane Focus. Now, it's time to wait for everybody to tell me that they knew that ages ago. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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Jun 2 2010, 23:14
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Alpha 7
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QUOTE(Sayo Aisaka @ Jun 2 2010, 12:55)  We knew that ages ago. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Any spell cast on a monster with ET in effect can cause Channeling. I just thought it had to be an Attack spell. I guess that happens when you just flat out run over the mobs. I used to never get Channeling before I started trying magic prof grinding. Even then my "discovery" was a fluke, as it was supposed to be a kill shot but fell short and triggered ET, and then Channeling unexpectedly (to me) just happened. Anyways, it's a new tactic for me to exploit. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) It's probably amazing that I do as well as I do, considering how much I don't know from blocking out everything not relevant at the time when reading Release Notes. When that was announced, I was either tanking or pretty much never got Channeling before the mob died or just used CM for half-priced spells.
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Jun 5 2010, 05:57
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Pickled_Cow
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Does the Stun proc work on bosses? Because instead of using any actor strategy, I just want to beat an unconscious Manbearpig to death.
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Jun 5 2010, 06:11
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20200
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QUOTE(Anomtai @ Jun 4 2010, 20:57)  Does the Stun proc work on bosses? Because instead of using any actor strategy, I just want to beat an unconscious Manbearpig to death.
Yes, but that is an awful strategy.
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Jun 5 2010, 06:21
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MasakiLHW
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How it works the proficiency gain with Innate Arcana?
Does Heartseeker increase the chance of Equipment Procs? Maybe is coincidence, but when I cast Heartseeker, my rapier procs PA more often, and it's not because without Heartseeker I miss the attack.
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Jun 5 2010, 06:27
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20200
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QUOTE(MasakiLHW @ Jun 4 2010, 21:21)  How it works the proficiency gain with Innate Arcana?
Every turn your IA spell is active you have a chance of gaining proficiency. (I assume that chance is: Normal prof gain chance/# of turns of the casted version of the spell) QUOTE(MasakiLHW @ Jun 4 2010, 21:21)  Does Heartseeker increase the chance of Equipment Procs? Maybe is coincidence, but when I cast Heartseeker, my rapier procs PA more often, and it's not because without Heartseeker I miss the attack.
Heartseeker increases your crit chance which in turn increases your rate of procs because crits have a 100% chance of a proc.
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Jun 5 2010, 06:29
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Pickled_Cow
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QUOTE(Boggyb @ Jun 5 2010, 04:11)  Yes, but that is an awful strategy.
I got a mace with a 3 turn stun at a 21% chance.
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Jun 5 2010, 06:32
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20200
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QUOTE(Anomtai @ Jun 4 2010, 21:29)  QUOTE(Boggyb @ Jun 4 2010, 21:11)  QUOTE(Anomtai @ Jun 4 2010, 20:57)  Does the Stun proc work on bosses? Because instead of using any actor strategy, I just want to beat an unconscious Manbearpig to death.
Yes, but that is an awful strategy. I got a mace with a 3 turn stun at a 21% chance. What's your point?
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Jun 5 2010, 06:34
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Pickled_Cow
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I was hoping that would cancel out the majority of its turns.
I mean I would still equip for it and bring the right items.
This post has been edited by Anomtai: Jun 5 2010, 06:36
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Jun 5 2010, 12:01
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Ichy
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QUOTE(Anomtai @ Jun 5 2010, 06:34)  I was hoping that would cancel out the majority of its turns.
I mean I would still equip for it and bring the right items.
You can`t have him stunned 100% and it will take forever to kill him. Better be ready for multiple Spirit attacks.
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Jun 5 2010, 18:23
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Alpha 7
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Jun 5 2010, 06:01)  You can`t have him stunned 100% and it will take forever to kill him. Better be ready for multiple Spirit attacks.
I came close enough with this Fine Ethereal Emerald Mace. I kept the Boss Stunned 90% of the time and just slowly beat it to death. I tried it again and got my head handed to me. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) It was far and away my worst RoB Boss defeat. Clearly, I was very lucky the first time, and not so much, the second. To beat a Boss or higher, you need to inflict high levels of damage whether by PA+Poison, high bleed, PA+magic or high proficiency Attack magic versus its weakness.
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Jun 6 2010, 15:42
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Ichy
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Im currently building up my DW prof got bored of it so I tried my hands on Nagato in RoB. Worked out well she died twice as fast. Only problem is: No shield > lots of damage. Even more since I prefer Silence/Nerv over weaken/bewilder/Spark which is just so much more clicking (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) So I need a way to reduce the damage or the gods will rape my face. My first thought was Shadow Veil in an IA slot but would this in combination with Mitigation gear be enough?
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Jun 6 2010, 16:26
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Jun 6 2010, 14:42)  Im currently building up my DW prof got bored of it so I tried my hands on Nagato in RoB. Worked out well she died twice as fast. Only problem is: No shield > lots of damage. Even more since I prefer Silence/Nerv over weaken/bewilder/Spark which is just so much more clicking (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) So I need a way to reduce the damage or the gods will rape my face. My first thought was Shadow Veil in an IA slot but would this in combination with Mitigation gear be enough? Use haste+SV on IA, I just defeat FSM with silence/nerf with a staff (0 block/parry bonus), and regen II could take the damage, but you need good mitigation, IPU would be ever easier, and RL, just use your usual gear, and weaken/bewilder/Spark, I don't think anyone used silence against him, since soul mitigation gear is crap. Edit: you can also use the 2xsoul stone+flower+bubblegum+PA+Spirit attack. This post has been edited by cmdct: Jun 6 2010, 16:32
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Jun 6 2010, 18:15
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Omnomnom
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Hey, after having been on this site for a while I finally got around to using the forum. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Anyhow, that said, I'm a lvl 36 and have been playing the hentaiverse without any particular long-term strategy or zomg-amazing equips. Problem is the later arena levels have become such a pain because of this. So far my stats are: STR 35 (+5) / DEX 36 (+3) (+1) / AGI 33 (+1) / END 32 (+2) / INT 27 (+1) / WIS 27 (+1) I'm currently using a club and shield combination. Some advice or tips or whatever to help me advance a bit would be great.
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Jun 6 2010, 18:23
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Golden Sun
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QUOTE I'm currently using a club and shield combination. Some advice or tips or whatever to help me advance a bit would be great. Don't use a club. Get some heavy. Focus on getting endurance at least to your level. It looks like you're just hitting things. I'm maging, and haven't lost an arena/rob since I started maging. Only lost 1k to arena so far.
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Jun 6 2010, 18:28
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Omnomnom
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I use a combination of Heal and Shield though my MP's something like 102 and the costs for each is 8 MP so far.
So club isn't worth it? Aah, I was liking that Stun side-effect which it came with, though I did hit a lot less often.
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Jun 6 2010, 18:29
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yuripe
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QUOTE(Omnomnom @ Jun 6 2010, 23:15)  Hey, after having been on this site for a while I finally got around to using the forum. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Anyhow, that said, I'm a lvl 36 and have been playing the hentaiverse without any particular long-term strategy or zomg-amazing equips. Problem is the later arena levels have become such a pain because of this. So far my stats are: STR 35 (+5) / DEX 36 (+3) (+1) / AGI 33 (+1) / END 32 (+2) / INT 27 (+1) / WIS 27 (+1) I'm currently using a club and shield combination. Some advice or tips or whatever to help me advance a bit would be great. more info about you, like what spell that you use now, your proficiencies, your fighting style that you want use and aura that you use now. your stats is good for melee, try use rapier cuz that'll make more damage when PA active. combine silk(high evade) with 1 piece heavy armor if you want(included full silk). for melee, use shield(spell), weaken, cure, and poison (haste if you want, too) for the spell. full your HP, and MP tanks.
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