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post May 1 2012, 06:21
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QUOTE((Cheater) Tiap @ Apr 30 2012, 21:15) *

Maging is probably still the easiest/fastest way for that

Safer? Yes. Faster? No way in hell.

I can say this because I've done IWBTH DwD both ways.
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post May 1 2012, 06:40
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What does the new title give anyway...?
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post May 1 2012, 06:43
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QUOTE(MidNightPass @ May 1 2012, 06:40) *

What does the new title give anyway...?

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Skills#Special_Skills

The ability to shout out some lame Skyrim referrences
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post May 1 2012, 06:43
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QUOTE(MidNightPass @ Apr 30 2012, 23:40) *

What does the new title give anyway...?

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Ranks
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post May 1 2012, 06:52
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I am a melee using mace, then that skill sounds useless to me.
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post May 1 2012, 08:02
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QUOTE(derpymal @ May 1 2012, 10:07) *

I thought everyone beat DwD as melee? Then again, I don't really pay attention to what other people do. I just beat it, but I cheated by spamming Scrolls of the Avatar and Gods and by using enchanted armor.


I'm not sure about it, but before shards are added I haven't seen any claims from lv.300 players that they can beat BT/IWBTH DwD. The situation obviously changed with shards though.

And I don't count those who spam scrolls to recover MP (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

QUOTE(MidNightPass @ May 1 2012, 12:52) *

I am a melee using mace, then that skill sounds useless to me.


Still okay since it gives 100% stun proc. If Shatter Strike gets nerfed it will become powerful.

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post May 1 2012, 08:18
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Anyway, I have completed DwD with some scroll of swiftness (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post May 1 2012, 08:22
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Scroll SoL is cheaper than the spell version. And you get THREE spells for the price of one action with one of the Awesome Scrolls, plus they cost 0 MP. Sure, they may not last as long the spells with my proficiency, but that's a small price to pay. And when the Scrolls and my IA were both up, I had double Haste and SV for extra lulz. Protection + Shield/Barrier wasn't a bad deal, either.
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post May 1 2012, 08:27
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QUOTE(derpymal @ May 1 2012, 14:22) *

And you get THREE spells for the price of one action with one of the Awesome Scrolls, plus they cost 0 MP. Sure, they may not last as long the spells with my proficiency, but that's a small price to pay. And when the Scrolls and my IA were both up, I had double Haste and SV for extra lulz. Protection + Shield/Barrier wasn't a bad deal, either.


You mean scroll of avatar? Does the haste stack?
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post May 1 2012, 09:20
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They stack.
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post May 1 2012, 10:03
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QUOTE(derpymal @ May 1 2012, 04:07) *

I thought everyone beat DwD as melee? Then again, I don't really pay attention to what other people do. I just beat it, but I cheated by spamming Scrolls of the Avatar and Gods and by using enchanted armor.


How long did it take for the whole run?
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post May 1 2012, 16:28
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To experts:

Whats the difference between battle arena and grindfest?

Will i get more cash from battle arena or grindfest?

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post May 1 2012, 16:49
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QUOTE(Toru Ikeda @ May 1 2012, 21:28) *

To experts:

Whats the difference between battle arena and grindfest?

Will i get more cash from battle arena or grindfest?

thanks in advance (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


Arena is a structured series of encounters. You'll always see the same type of monsters at each round.

Grindfest, on the other hand, is random. That's the main difference.

The other very important difference is that once you start an arena, you will not be able to restart it until the next day.

Also, Grindfest uses more stamina.
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post May 1 2012, 16:52
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QUOTE(Toru Ikeda @ May 1 2012, 22:28) *

To experts:

Whats the difference between battle arena and grindfest?

Will i get more cash from battle arena or grindfest?

thanks in advance (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


Arena: preset number of monster composition, monsters have 100% damage output at any round, 400 rounds per 20 staimina in normal status, have clear bonus, later arenas have higher EXP bonus

Grindfest: random number/composition of monsters, monsters start with 51% damage output and increase by 1% per round, 200 rounds per 20 stamina in normal status, no clear bonus, no extra EXP bonus

As for cash received, it depends on the number of rounds and difficulty you've played.
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post May 1 2012, 17:25
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Did I find something interesting?

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I know it is low level. Bumped it by 6 levels already in IW. I know it will take time, but this thing looks spectacular when compared to Slaughter/Ox/Cheetah/Banshee/etc... I never stumbled upon Battlecaster type of weapon before (I know I haven't seen a lot of good stuff yet at ~100 lvl (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ).
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post May 1 2012, 17:34
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Nope, you didn't.
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post May 1 2012, 18:01
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QUOTE(derpymal @ May 1 2012, 07:20) *

They stack.


But with double haste, you only need an action speed of 177.8 or 200 to cap out lol (haven't determined if the scroll and spell add together or multiply)

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post May 1 2012, 18:05
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QUOTE(skillchip @ May 2 2012, 00:01) *

But with double haste, you only need an action speed of 177.8 or 200 to cap out lol (haven't determined if the scroll and spell add together or multiply)


Hmm at this moment I have 246.1 speed.

So I guess it's an overkill for me.
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post May 1 2012, 18:13
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Yeah, 246.1 would become 369.15 with haste, so you can still improve a little bit with double haste, like you wouldn't get hit by e1ia and be able to get more hits on monsters, but it probably isn't worth using the scroll and spell
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post May 1 2012, 20:58
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QUOTE(skillchip @ May 1 2012, 18:01) *

But with double haste, you only need an action speed of 177.8 or 200 to cap out lol (haven't determined if the scroll and spell add together or multiply)


I never experimented with double haste, never tried that out even once actually, so mine's just a "guesstimation": the effects are multiplied together.

I can't see why the conventional stacking method used for everything else (lowering of mana costs included) shouldn't be applied here too.
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