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post Apr 25 2012, 18:44
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QUOTE(LangTuTaiHoa @ Apr 25 2012, 06:23) *

Guess it should be included in the wiki

Added.
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post Apr 25 2012, 19:02
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Is there anyway to publish a table directly on the forum?
Not as a picture or attachment.

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post Apr 25 2012, 19:30
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Not that I know of.
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post Apr 25 2012, 21:06
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I just got through EOD without using a single potion. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

It did take a really long time though.

Cheers for le advice varst, (Cheater) Tiap, and skillchip.
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post Apr 25 2012, 21:15
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I love how much cure heals with my holy set
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4 3 You are healed for 4223 Health Points.
4 2 You cast Cure.


compared to my dark set (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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5 1 You cast Cure.


So divine edb affects healing too huh? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Apr 25 2012, 21:31
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QUOTE(rainbowmagnum @ Apr 26 2012, 03:06) *

I just got through EOD without using a single potion. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

It did take a really long time though.

Cheers for le advice varst, (Cheater) Tiap, and skillchip.


If you think it takes you too much time, try to adjust the number of rounds you need to ET.
I started with ET 50 rounds, then stop ET in the last 5 rounds, then 10 rounds... and finally, I found a way to use on average 10 godly mana potions to pass EOD without ET.
It should take much less time provided that you have sufficient godly mana potions.

QUOTE(mustardpie @ Apr 26 2012, 03:15) *

I love how much cure heals with my holy set
compared to my dark set (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
So divine edb affects healing too huh? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


Yea, cure is just an attack on your character, so holy EDB will increase cure spell's recovery amount. (Though it doesn't increase regen's recovery amount)
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post Apr 25 2012, 23:41
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QUOTE(Coma @ Apr 25 2012, 01:48) *
Superior or lower quality Slaughter Mace can have max 57.20 base Weapon Damage

As I suspected. My eth slaughter mace is garbage.


QUOTE(LangTuTaiHoa @ Apr 25 2012, 05:09) *

I think LoTD DOES affect trophy shrining, but not as directly. For example, player 1 with no LoTD and player 2 with it maxed both have the same chance of receiving an Exquisite mace of illithid upon shrining a noodle for 2H. But player 2's mace will likely have somehow a little better overall base stats, like better WD, higher mana leech, or better proc chance.
This can be completely wrong though, just based on my comparison of higher level player's (with probably better LoTD training) shrining results with those of lower levels.

They don't. Never have, and never will. Whatever misconception you have about high level versus low level shrining is simply a numbers game. High levels just have the capability to collect more trophies than lower levels, especially legendary grade, which gives them more of an advantage.

That doesn't necessarily translate to good equipment though. I've had high or maxed LotD for a long time now and have never gotten more than a single piece of legendary cotton pants. It doesn't seem to stop other with much lower LotD from getting useful Magnificent or Legendary pieces though.
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post Apr 26 2012, 01:09
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Apr 25 2012, 23:41) *

As I suspected. My eth slaughter mace is garbage.



Garbage? Both ethereal prefix and Slaughter suffix are enough to fetch at least 900k, with 28% proc chance as mace, easiest 1.4 million credit you will ever made right here.

Wait, there is more, since the Item Level is 355, I think only Ichy is slightly higher level than you, so you can sell them even higher to those level 200+ Rich Richies.

Garbage? If this is true, then that must be the most expensive garbage I ever seen in my life besides the Space Program

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post Apr 26 2012, 01:25
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QUOTE(Coma @ Apr 25 2012, 19:09) *

Garbage? Both ethereal prefix and Slaughter suffix are enough to fetch at least 900k, with 28% proc chance as mace, easiest 1.4 million credit you will ever made right here.

Wait, there is more, since the Item Level is 355, I think only Ichy is slightly higher level than you, so you can sell them even higher to those level 200+ Rich Richies


Ok first of all, Ichy, Sushi, Danixxx are all higher level. Just the three I can remember off the top of my head.

Past lvl 200 (for players) imo, item levels matters less and less as you get better and better at doing item world. So I wouldn't care if a mace was lvl 200 or 400, if the 200 had better base stats.

I wouldn't pay 1.4m for that mace, and even 900k would be stretching it.
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post Apr 26 2012, 01:29
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I sold a worse mace than that for 2 millions. And it was like level 250.
Though you could still permastun at the time.
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post Apr 26 2012, 01:41
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Apr 26 2012, 01:41) *

As I suspected. My eth slaughter mace is garbage.

Did you forget ethereal weapons always weaker than standart ones? And this numbers are for standart ones.
QUOTE(Kaosumx @ Apr 26 2012, 03:25) *

Ok first of all, Ichy, Sushi, Danixxx are all higher level. Just the three I can remember off the top of my head.

Past lvl 200 (for players) imo, item levels matters less and less as you get better and better at doing item world. So I wouldn't care if a mace was lvl 200 or 400, if the 200 had better base stats.

I wouldn't pay 1.4m for that mace, and even 900k would be stretching it.

Nobody wants to do IW, 'cause it's tedious and annoying as fuck. Of course Forge is helping with it now, but it's still complicated. And it costs high enough, especially when all your gear is Exq and above. So higher level sometimes can be preferrable than some minor stat difference.

And if you think you'll find a josser who'll sell you an ethereal mace of slaughter for a price lower than 1 mil...I must disappoint you - that'll never happen. At least if maces will not get nerfed in the next patch or so. And besides it worth that price.
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post Apr 26 2012, 02:05
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QUOTE(Kaosumx @ Apr 26 2012, 06:25) *


I wouldn't pay 1.4m for that mace


I would (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Apr 26 2012, 04:03
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QUOTE(Evil Scorpio @ Apr 25 2012, 19:41) *

Did you forget ethereal weapons always weaker than standart ones? And this numbers are for standart ones.

Nobody wants to do IW, 'cause it's tedious and annoying as fuck. Of course Forge is helping with it now, but it's still complicated. And it costs high enough, especially when all your gear is Exq and above. So higher level sometimes can be preferrable than some minor stat difference.

And if you think you'll find a josser who'll sell you an ethereal mace of slaughter for a price lower than 1 mil...I must disappoint you - that'll never happen. At least if maces will not get nerfed in the next patch or so. And besides it worth that price.


There have been quite a few on sale for less than 1 mil. I've seen low level ones with better stats sold for less than 300k, and I've seen good ones in the 200 range sold for 600k-1mil. Only best ones sell for more than one mil. The problem with hito's mace imo is that it's doesn't really have any appeal. The level is uselessly high. Anyone that needs a lvl 355 mace should have a better one, or can afford to buy a better one. The damage isn't bad, but its not special either. The only thing that's good about it is the stun chance, but I wouldn't pay premium just for that because critical strikes proc stun anyways. It just doesn't have much appeal to it that makes it worth than 1 mil.

Nobody does IW? Tell that to 4EverLost, who I swear goes through 2000+ rounds of it a day. I'm going through item world regularly for stuff I want to level too.

EDIT - Of course, in the end, if hito puts that up for auction, I bet it will sell for more than 1 mil anyways >.> people jump for ethe maces of slaughter. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

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post Apr 26 2012, 05:44
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Ok, what's up with defend and focus? I just noticed that if I use either of those skills, I lose about 2 mana per turn from IA, but normally, I lose 1 mana ever few turns.
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post Apr 26 2012, 05:49
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You don't regen when you do either.
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post Apr 26 2012, 05:54
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Ah right.

Forgot about that part.
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post Apr 26 2012, 06:41
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Apr 26 2012, 05:41) *

As I suspected. My eth slaughter mace is garbage.


Let me guess.....voidseeker shard on another non-ethereal mace? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Apr 26 2012, 07:22
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More proof that shards are ruining the game. Why bother with eth when you can perma-shard a regular weapon with superior stats?
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post Apr 26 2012, 07:34
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But then in the past we're always complaining those legendary scythe of slaughter ruined by the non-ethereal prefix (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

The current problem with shard is that they're too abundant. 50 voidseeker shards cost 300,000 credits now, which is about the cost of a non-slaughter ethereal mace. Then what's the point of using an ethereal mace when you can enjoy 100% accuracy and higher damage?
If those voidseekers cost 30,000 credits (as rare as an artifact), then everyone would think twice before using them.
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post Apr 26 2012, 08:03
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I have a question regarding mages and their spells. I've often seen Heimdall mage clothes as the priciest so far. Is there something special about holy magic? Also since most mages take massive damage because they wear clothes, spells like weaken, protection, shadow veil, haste and spark of life are the best choices I'm guessing?
Was wondering if there is a good way to maximize the spark of life effect. I've maxed it out, but what would be considered a good time to put it to use? I don't want to cast it at the start of every battle and recast when it expires because the amount of mana cost is pretty costly.
This last onemight be a stupid question, but I haven't been able to find anywhere. Most items I buy from players or bazaar usually have the (+) bonus next to the items. I've always wondered how those are obtained since all the items I've gotten from drops does not have any of those bonus like (+3.41) for example. Are they usually associated with bonuses you get through item world leveling or is it just something that is found later on?
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