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You are correct.
http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Training#Luck_of_the_Draw

I saw that already. But everyone knows the wiki has a tendency to be outdated. I'm really asking this because 4EverLost implied that LotD DID affect shrine results.

Believe it or not, LotD won't affect shrine results. You an compare cmx's equipment posts from time to time.
And usually wiki isn't outdated unless there's a reminder telling you a particular page may be outdated.

This post has been edited by varst: Apr 25 2012, 04:27

Whenever LotD is brought up, it is only refering to drops. Shrining is just plain luck.

ninja'ed.

This post has been edited by trikon000: Apr 25 2012, 06:30

Ninja'd by two hours???

what can I say, forgot to hit refresh on the the page before posting.

I saw that already. But everyone knows the wiki has a tendency to be outdated. I'm really asking this because 4EverLost implied that LotD DID affect shrine results.

If I did I must have been half asleep. Its Imbuing SnowFlake with Karma that effects what you get from the shrine the most. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Meh....if that's x1 EOD it's almost impossible to die if you cast one offensive spell to clear most of the monsters.
I am using the more risky method (proc CM -> nerf -> mass kill), but still spark activates in every 1000 turns or so.

So you try and get CM before you cast nerf?

I use nerf to get CM or on higher settings weaken & nerf, attack, ET then attack spells repeat. If I'm low on mana I'll do the same but use a lower tier attack spell when I get both CM & ET.

But I'm also fine with using 10 godly mana pots a run if I can do it faster.

Ok,
I'm completely aware that this may make me the most gullible person ever, but does giving SnowFlake Karma actually do anything?
I've brought up before the fact that Ten mentioned he'd thought of incorporating a similar system, but I thought he never did.
I also always assumed that this was a joke, but if it may improve my chances...

Anyone know the approximate max base ADM for slaughter mace? Without the high quality bonus.

Ok,
I'm completely aware that this may make me the most gullible person ever, but does giving SnowFlake Karma actually do anything?
I've brought up before the fact that Ten mentioned he'd thought of incorporating a similar system, but I thought he never did.
I also always assumed that this was a joke, but if it may improve my chances...

Nope, it does not do anything special. Giving SnowFlake karma has been a running joke among hentaiverse players since the beginning of the verse...the system kept dropping stupid items due to steer stupid luck, Magificent Mace of the...Battlecaster, for example. When that happens, we say that player forgot to give SnowFlake her karma.

Anyone know the approximate max base ADM for slaughter mace? Without the high quality bonus.

This wiki: http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Equipment_Ranges

Superior or lower quality Slaughter Mace can have max 57.20 base Weapon Damage

This post has been edited by Coma: Apr 25 2012, 08:54

i must say if its give me magnificent anything (at least not cotton for 1 time)i dont mind at all,its just send me all over cotton without trophy quality check,i do some 2h too for at least better sell price ,but i want see some goddamn good phase too.

I think LoTD DOES affect trophy shrining, but not as directly. For example, player 1 with no LoTD and player 2 with it maxed both have the same chance of receiving an Exquisite mace of illithid upon shrining a noodle for 2H. But player 2's mace will likely have somehow a little better overall base stats, like better WD, higher mana leech, or better proc chance.
This can be completely wrong though, just based on my comparison of higher level player's (with probably better LoTD training) shrining results with those of lower levels.

This post has been edited by LangTuTaiHoa: Apr 25 2012, 12:19

@4EverLost

Yea, I'm a bit worried about the mana usage if I use nerf without CM; I could probably ET and replenish mana, but keeping CM seems to be a bit easier in terms of control. And my preference goes to speed (because I can replenish potions with IW runs)

@LangTuTaiHoa

Those factors you've mentioned can be generalized into a factor called 'quality'. However, I didn't notice high-level players getting more fine equipments from boss trophies.

@LangTuTaiHoa

Those factors you've mentioned can be generalized into a factor called 'quality'. However, I didn't notice high-level players getting more fine equipments from boss trophies.

I'd say the only difference is in the sheer number of shrine offerings made by the Overkillers™.

More offerings -> higher chances to receive something "worthy" -> auctions of the surplus -> happiness -> lotsa dumps in the bazaar -> depression

Welcome to the BipolarVerse.

Lol, your gonna keep using that term eh? Just don't start another shitstorm.

I'd say the only difference is in the sheer number of shrine offerings made by the Overkillers™.

More offerings -> higher chances to receive something "worthy" -> auctions of the surplus -> happiness -> lotsa dumps in the bazaar -> depression

Welcome to the BipolarVerse.

You misinterpreted my words. 'Fine' in terms of quality prefix (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Lol, your gonna keep using that term eh? Just don't start another shitstorm.

You're barking to the wrong tree. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

And if you think that that was a shitstorm, then you've never seen a true shitstorm...


Edit: BTW, "that term" is not offensive, nor it's intended as such.

This post has been edited by Hoheneim: Apr 25 2012, 15:26

@LangTuTaiHoa

Those factors you've mentioned can be generalized into a factor called 'quality'. However, I didn't notice high-level players getting more fine equipments from boss trophies.

'Fine' in terms of quality prefix (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I didn't say high-level players get more Fine(good prefix) equips than low-level (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) . What I meant is that the chance of getting each prefix is the same for all players, but high-level players (with higher LoTD) may get better BASE STATS from the same prefix compared to low-level (with less LoTD) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
And why can't we ask Tenb about this (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ? After all he is the one implementing these.

Stats generate prefixes, not the other way around:

The quality prefix is basically the average value of all the stats given to a piece of gear. For a stat that ranges from 5-10, getting 5 is +1 quality while getting 10 is +6 quality. The sum of the quality scores is then divided by the maximum possible quality score to get a quality rating between 0 and 1. For example, a piece of gear would have to score above 0.5 to qualify as "fine", so if the maximum quality score was 100, it would need at least 51.

Stats generate prefixes, not the other way around:

Thanks for finding that quote for me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Stats generate prefixes, not the other way around:

Never knew that, thanks (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) . Guess it should be included in the wiki (or has it?)