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post Apr 22 2012, 19:06
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Is IA reduction multiplicative or additive?

What I mean is is it added up, then multiplied to the upkeep, or each level of reduction is applied separately?
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post Apr 22 2012, 19:10
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QUOTE(ChosenUno @ Apr 23 2012, 01:06) *

Is IA reduction multiplicative or additive?

What I mean is is it added up, then multiplied to the upkeep, or each level of reduction is applied separately?


Only the highest level applies.
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post Apr 22 2012, 21:11
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I have a question, I read in the wiki that every 10 points in proficiency you get some stats, but only worked in the first 10, I know have 30 of proficiency in two handed and it's the same as with 10, when I reach 40 I'll take a picture of the stats before and after, but what I want to know if this is normal or a bug
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post Apr 23 2012, 00:59
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My stats are attached. I'm playing a melee, 2h style. Is there anything I'm doing wrong/should improve on?

Thanks in advance =)

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post Apr 23 2012, 01:17
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Collecting ability points until the next tree level shows up is fine. The Aura point shouldn't be collected, you should be spending some credits into Refined Aura under the trainer so that you can boost your attributes.

[dl.dropbox.com] Example after you train all Refined Aura. You notice that all 7 are active.

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post Apr 23 2012, 01:28
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QUOTE(asdffdas @ Apr 22 2012, 22:59) *

My stats are attached. I'm playing a melee, 2h style. Is there anything I'm doing wrong/should improve on?

Thanks in advance =)



ya, you should use your aura points if you can, also your proficiency are low. Spend some time to get your armor and melee over 200. Its a lot easier to keep them close to your level then it is to just blow them off and try and grind 100-150 points fast.

You should also start spend time working on your other proficiencies. If you spend some time every level or maybe every 5 levels working on Deprecating, Supportive & Curative now it won't be so bad when you start using them more.
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post Apr 23 2012, 03:16
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QUOTE(4EverLost @ Apr 22 2012, 18:28) *

ya, you should use your aura points if you can, also your proficiency are low. Spend some time to get your armor and melee over 200. Its a lot easier to keep them close to your level then it is to just blow them off and try and grind 100-150 points fast.

You should also start spend time working on your other proficiencies. If you spend some time every level or maybe every 5 levels working on Deprecating, Supportive & Curative now it won't be so bad when you start using them more.


I can second that...
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I did nothing but IWBTH hourlies for weeks, and now my profs are useless. Does anyone known an efficient way to grind them back up?
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post Apr 23 2012, 03:33
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Upgrade the Assimilator trainer to at least 3 or 4, it will reduce the amount of time needed to grid to your prof up to your level. That is why I can level at an insane rate, while my profs can be slightly less than what I would need.

With an Assimilator at level 5 means that you trigger the prof every other hit if you want to up your 2H/DW/1H/staff or magic prof if your casting a spell.

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post Apr 23 2012, 03:47
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QUOTE(trikon000 @ Apr 23 2012, 08:33) *

Upgrade the Assimilator trainer to at least 3 or 4, it will reduce the amount of time needed to grid to your prof up to your level. That is why I can level at an insane rate, while my profs can be slightly less than what I would need.

With an Assimilator at level 5 means that you trigger the prof every other hit if you want to up your 2H/DW/1H/staff or magic prof if your casting a spell.


Are you sure about that? How much does the training cost for assimilator from 1-5 totals up to?
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post Apr 23 2012, 03:48
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you do remember how much I listed I can make from the arena clears? etc.




[dl.dropbox.com] My LotD cost more than Assimilator.

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post Apr 23 2012, 04:23
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QUOTE(trikon000 @ Apr 22 2012, 21:33) *

With an Assimilator at level 5 means that you trigger the prof every other hit if you want to up your 2H/DW/1H/staff or magic prof if your casting a spell.

LOL, that's not how prof gains and Assimilator work.
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post Apr 23 2012, 04:33
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you do know I said it triggers the prof gain more not that you get 50% more prof.
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post Apr 23 2012, 04:38
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That's not what it sounded like.
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post Apr 23 2012, 04:40
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thats probably what you get for speed reading.
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post Apr 23 2012, 04:46
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Probably not.
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post Apr 23 2012, 04:54
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Not my problem after I pass you up eventually.
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post Apr 23 2012, 05:02
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QUOTE(trikon000 @ Apr 23 2012, 09:33) *

With an Assimilator at level 5 means that you trigger the prof every other hit if you want to up your 2H/DW/1H/staff or magic prof if your casting a spell.


LOL, you don't trigger the prof gains "every other hit" if you have Assimilator 5.
By that logic, you're getting prof gains every hit at Assimilator 10.

If base prof gain rate is (hypothetically) 5% per swing, then Assimilator 5 makes it 7.5% per swing.
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post Apr 23 2012, 05:11
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The rate at which proficiency is gained can be increased via Assimilator training at +10% per rank trained, up to a maximum of double the normal rate.


So do you know the gain rate formula then.
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post Apr 23 2012, 05:26
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QUOTE(altereggo @ Apr 23 2012, 01:16) *

I can second that...
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I did nothing but IWBTH hourlies for weeks, and now my profs are useless. Does anyone known an efficient way to grind them back up?


What I've always done is start a run, kill off everything but 1 monster, weaken, bewilder and sleep it. then recast weaken until bewilder is about to end and switch to that and keep doing that until you've burned 13 sup mana pots.

For Supportive using the IA slots is good, but I also use to do the same as above but cast the lowest cost spell.

Curative is the one that is a real pain. Doing the same as above works but if you melee just casting cure all the time will work too.
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post Apr 23 2012, 05:32
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QUOTE(trikon000 @ Apr 23 2012, 11:11) *

So do you know the gain rate formula then.


Only Tenboro knows.

I'm estimating probably 5% gain rate for weapons/armor/non-offensive spell prof at near max (when you're like 10 pts from your current level).
Offensive spells have a slightly higher gain rate, IIRC.

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