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Hmm, what would you guys say are the best methods to gain credits at my level?

Kinda almost broke, since I recently bought some equipment and started a ton of training (plus costs of supplies.). xP

Clearing your arenas will earn you at least 5800 credits every day, in addition to whatever you get from selling equipment to the Bazaar. Selling artifacts that you come across to other players is also a good way of making money early on.

Also make sure to get the first-time clear bonuses from the Ring of Blood.

Beyond those, there are activities outside of HV that you can try. Upload stuff (that isn't shit) to the galleries and convert the GP you get into credits. The tricky part is finding something that hasn't already been uploaded. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) Then there is H@H; if your internet connection allows it, you can try running it and selling off the hath that you accumulate over time. Finally, I'm not sure if donations are still closed, but if they aren't, donating to the site will earn you a metallic aura that will significantly increase the number of credits you get at every Dawn, and if you donate enough to get at least one gold star, then you will also earn at least one hath at every Dawn. If donations aren't closed, there is also the Adopt-A-Server program that you can look into...

I have a question.

Should I increase my light armor profs? It's at a pathetic 41. I'm switching over to full light, but am not getting hit often in battles. Should I grind it?

And is the best way to grind armor profs still IWTBH marathons?

I have a question.

Should I increase my light armor profs? It's at a pathetic 41. I'm switching over to full light, but am not getting hit often in battles. Should I grind it?

And is the best way to grind armor profs still IWTBH marathons?

The higher your prof is - the better. I think the best way to gain it is crude/flimsy IW on IWBTH.

This post has been edited by Evil Scorpio: Apr 21 2012, 16:40

The higher your prof is - the better. I think the best way to gain it is crude/flimsy IW on IWBTH.

Go in bare-fisted with only armour on? Antagonize the mobs to hit you? BTW, do we gain any profs in defend mode?

Go in bare-fisted with only armour on? Antagonize the mobs to hit you? BTW, do we gain any profs in defend mode?

No, you don't gain prof. from defend/scan/focus. 75% prof. compared to your level should be good enough if that's now your focus. For light armor/clothes, the best chance should be maximizing the evade.

For light armor/clothes, the best chance should be maximizing the evade.

Could you explain in more details, thanks.

Could you explain in more details, thanks.

Personally, I would save the 'flimsy IWBTH IW' idea for heavy armors and weapons.

For cloth/light armor, a better method is to do that when you're also training magical profs.
Basically you're training in flimsy IW, but this time choose 'easy' as difficulty. When you spam the spells (weaken, cure, spike). let those monsters attack you. Since you also get prof. if you evade attacks, that should give you tons of attacks from monsters (thus tons of chance to train armor prof).
For better result, you may also go till about 50 rounds of IW for your training; with more monsters attacking you, you should get more armor prof. And since you're playing in flimsy easy IW with evade, it surely won't hurt much.

Personally, I would save the 'flimsy IWBTH IW' idea for heavy armors and weapons.

For cloth/light armor, a better method is to do that when you're also training magical profs.
Basically you're training in flimsy IW, but this time choose 'easy' as difficulty. When you spam the spells (weaken, cure, spike). let those monsters attack you. Since you also get prof. if you evade attacks, that should give you tons of attacks from monsters (thus tons of chance to train armor prof).
For better result, you may also go till about 50 rounds of IW for your training; with more monsters attacking you, you should get more armor prof. And since you're playing in flimsy easy IW with evade, it surely won't hurt much.

I don't think you actually need round 50, something like 18-20 is enough. Wait until a round with 8/9 monsters would be nice.

One thing though, prof increase can only happen once a round, correct? Even though I've seen 2 supportive increases per round a few times, that's with casting and IA. Not sure about armor profs though.

I don't think you actually need round 50, something like 18-20 is enough. Wait until a round with 8/9 monsters would be nice.

One thing though, prof increase can only happen once a round, correct? Even though I've seen 2 supportive increases per round a few times, that's with casting and IA. Not sure about armor profs though.

Yea, that's basically the idea: increasing the amount of monsters while decreasing the possible damage dealt to you.

And prof. increase can only happen once a round, you're correct. That applies to IA, armor, normal attacks and magics. Like you've mentioned, there's a slim chance to have two separate prof. from IA and protective magic.

Actually, when you are pressed for time and you find IW as a difficult way to level right away, play any of the lower level arenas with whatever setup you find you are low in or lacking prof in. Start in the lowest to highest that way you find your upper limit in how long you can survive. Repeating them everyday will eventually bring the prof up to a comfortable level or until you can clear the rares in them. This way, when you run into a rare in a IW run, you will not die from it.

The other way is to go a few rounds into any CF/GF/IW in a difficulty of your choosing; then use defend, cure I/II and Regen I/II and let them continue to hit you constantly until you run out of mana while using defend, then run. (I suggest a difficulty other than IWBTH to do this.)

This post has been edited by trikon000: Apr 21 2012, 18:03

Yea, that's basically the idea: increasing the amount of monsters while decreasing the possible damage dealt to you.

And prof. increase can only happen once a round, you're correct. That applies to IA, armor, normal attacks and magics. Like you've mentioned, there's a slim chance to have two separate prof. from IA and protective magic.

What about the weapon load-out? Do we continue to use our normal weapons or switch to a lower level/damage?

What about the weapon load-out? Do we continue to use our normal weapons or switch to a lower level/damage?

Well, I imagine you'd use your normal weapon for the first 20 rounds, then spam spells. That should be enough.

You'll get some weapon profs too, yay (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

@trikon000
You can't gain prof. from defending (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

@cyberwaveIT
Any weapon should do.

realy, you don't get armor prof?

realy, you don't get armor prof?

I did a quick test and really, you can't (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

just tried it, got squat as well. Just use the lower level arenas until you can survive a rare in whatever armor your low prof in then.

just tried it, got squat as well. Just use the lower level arenas until you can survive a rare in whatever armor your low prof in then.

Not really I can't survive. More like I'm annoyed at the missing AGI I could be having if my profs are high (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

just in case you get creative you also don't get prof on turns in which you spam spells even when you don't have enough mana. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Also you don't gain wpn prof when using skills.

You can dual wield nimble wpns for most parry (and bad damage), in addition to getting your evade high.

Not really I can't survive. More like I'm annoyed at the missing AGI I could be having if my profs are high (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

You have to do it like you were playing at lvl 50, do it from the lowest to highest. You have to keep doing everyday until you can last long enough and survive a rare arena.


Like when I shifted to maging as well, I could only do upto Growing Storm in mage gear while I could do upto Longest Journey in melee gear at lvl 111. you have to work your way up to it.

This post has been edited by trikon000: Apr 21 2012, 19:55

Yea, that's basically the idea: increasing the amount of monsters while decreasing the possible damage dealt to you.

And prof. increase can only happen once a round, you're correct. That applies to IA, armor, normal attacks and magics. Like you've mentioned, there's a slim chance to have two separate prof. from IA and protective magic.

Actually it seems it can happen twice a round. It's just very rare.

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12    7    Neptunia is agitated!
12    6    You evade the attack from Portgas D Ace.
12    5    You gain 0.03 points of light armor proficiency.
12    4    Neptunia crits you for 49 slashing damage.
12    3    You gain 0.01 points of light armor proficiency.
12    2    Magic Missile hits Neptunia for 700 piercing damage.
12    1    You cast Magic Missile.