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post Apr 15 2012, 16:28
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QUOTE(asdffdas @ Apr 15 2012, 21:03) *

Why is there so much demand for ethereal weapons? Isn't voidseekering a nonethereal better, because they have more base damage?

Or is there something else I'm not understanding?


They're permanent.
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post Apr 15 2012, 16:33
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Ethereals do not have lower base damage.
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post Apr 15 2012, 17:44
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QUOTE((Cheater) Tiap @ Apr 15 2012, 21:33) *

Ethereals do not have lower base damage.


They seem to (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Apr 15 2012, 17:59
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i think its harder to get ethereal thats why its not easy to find one with max dmg

i got one rapier a few points away from max dmg http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=e64b16204a

i use it in EOD and maul the sch girls wif and ethereal axe as main

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post Apr 15 2012, 18:01
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Finding an Ethereal with really good stats is just hard as fuck.
Case in point: max WD. There are a few other examples in the equipment thread
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post Apr 15 2012, 18:18
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Just wanna ask about what you guys were talking a few pages back. About training 2H prof that you should use crude weapon.

I'm curious why don't you also use low lvl weapon? Is there a eq lvl limit on gaining prof?
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post Apr 15 2012, 18:24
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I'm quite sure ethereal weapons don't have lower base damage; they seems to have worse average quality, however.
Example of almost max WD wakizashi.

@Tiap
Why should you pick that one (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
The easiest stat to go wrong is proc., of course. I've seen countless 1H/2H weapons ruined because of abysmal proc.
This is the rapier I'm using, and I consider it one of the best rapier you can get.

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post Apr 15 2012, 18:41
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i have an ethereal with max WD, max proc chance, and max proc

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post Apr 15 2012, 19:27
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QUOTE(varst @ Apr 15 2012, 18:24) *

I'm quite sure ethereal weapons don't have lower base damage; they seems to have worse average quality, however.

Quality points are spent on the lack of burden and interference so there's less of them to spend around actual stats. This doesn't mean that the maximums for stats are lower, though, so you can still have good stats that matter on ethereals, like acc/crit/damage.
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post Apr 15 2012, 19:46
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@varst
I think I might miss something but I thought the idea is to deal the least dmg to the enemy as much as possible. If that's the case then low lvl weapon will give you alot less dmg.
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post Apr 15 2012, 20:51
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There're some Eth weapon (no link for it, sorry...) that, despite their quality suffix (fine+), have no redeeming features whatsoever... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

This, plus what Tenb said here (which basically means that my dream of getting eth katana before that point was, well, just a dream... I'm fairy pissed about it! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) ), led me to believe that, for eth weapon, the system simply generates a normal weapon (with bur/inf and stuff) in a usual way, then just do another roll for whether it would be eth or not.

If this is true, then it make sense why some eth have no good stats at all: it might have a low bur/inf at the beginning, which increase its 'quality', then Snowflakes decide to use her magical power to turn this normal weapon in to eth afterward.

This is not proven, of course, but the evidence so far seem to fit this theory. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Apr 15 2012, 20:54
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I wonder what GrindFests are good for? Really, do someone fights there?
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post Apr 15 2012, 20:57
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QUOTE(Muramasa777 @ Apr 16 2012, 01:54) *

I wonder what GrindFests are good for? Really, do someone fights there?


IWBTH grinding. Everything is good: the credits, the exp, the drops,... Stamina usage is not really a problem since you can't do that much rounds on IWBTH anyway (except for those 300+ gods (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) )
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post Apr 15 2012, 21:00
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Are the proficiency bonuses only applied when certain fighting styles or armor sets are used or are they permanent gained bonuses like stats? Because I remember being told to stick to one kind of armor and one kind of fighting style and stick with it. So now my 2-handed and heavy armor are stacked while everything else is pretty low (excluding deprecating, supportive, and curative). Woulding getting 10 points of prof in dual-wield and light armor give me their bonus even when I'm using my standard 2-hand weapon and heavy armor?
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post Apr 15 2012, 21:02
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@handabana short answer: NO.

QUOTE(buktore @ Apr 15 2012, 11:51) *

There're some Eth weapon (no link for it, sorry...) that, despite their quality suffix (fine+), have no redeeming features whatsoever... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

This, plus what Tenb said here (which basically means that my dream of getting eth katana before that point was, well, just a dream... I'm fairy pissed about it! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) ), led me to believe that, for eth weapon, the system simply generates a normal weapon (with bur/inf and stuff) in a usual way, then just do another roll for whether it would be eth or not.

If this is true, then it make sense why some eth have no good stats at all: it might have a low bur/inf at the beginning, which increase its 'quality', then Snowflakes decide to use her magical power to turn this normal weapon in to eth afterward.

This is not proven, of course, but the evidence so far seem to fit this theory. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

that's pretty much what I've thought. You see fines > superiors > exquisites eths in all stats and high/low ranges, so the only stat that could possibly make that consistent is burden/interference before it becomes etherealized.

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post Apr 15 2012, 21:02
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QUOTE(handabanana @ Apr 15 2012, 23:00) *
Are the proficiency bonuses only applied when certain fighting styles or armor sets are used or are they permanent gained bonuses like stats?

Only on their styles/armor sets.

QUOTE(handabanana @ Apr 15 2012, 23:00) *
Woulding getting 10 points of prof in dual-wield and light armor give me their bonus even when I'm using my standard 2-hand weapon and heavy armor?

No.

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post Apr 15 2012, 21:11
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QUOTE(buktore @ Apr 16 2012, 02:51) *

...led me to believe that, for eth weapon, the system simply generates a normal weapon (with bur/inf and stuff) in a usual way, then just do another roll for whether it would be eth or not...


Luckily I don't plan on dealing with that quality mess, but I'll surely note that.
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post Apr 15 2012, 22:20
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I'm level 95 right now, I've got some trophies ( bfg9000, portal gun X 2, lock of blue hair, broken glases, pegasopolis emblem X 6)

I hear that after lvl 100, there'll be a lot more boss/legendary fights, so I'll be getting a LOT more trophies soon. Should I shrine all of these now(because soon they'll be relatively less valuable- I can get them all the time), or is there an advantage to saving them?
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post Apr 15 2012, 22:28
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QUOTE(putadshere @ Apr 16 2012, 04:20) *

I'm level 95 right now, I've got some trophies ( bfg9000, portal gun X 2, lock of blue hair, broken glases, pegasopolis emblem X 6)

I hear that after lvl 100, there'll be a lot more boss/legendary fights, so I'll be getting a LOT more trophies soon. Should I shrine all of these now(because soon they'll be relatively less valuable- I can get them all the time), or is there an advantage to saving them?


1. BFG9000 and portal gun are not trophies. They're called artifacts. You can shrine them for either 2-3 haths, one ability point, 100 crystals, one energy drink, or a permanent point in primary stats. Or you can sell them to other players in WTS.

2. The better choice is to save those trophies till later levels, since equips through shrining will always be lower-leveled than you. If you are poewr-leveling, it's better to save them.

3. On the other hand, if you're those players who want to use their own equips, you can shrine them at any level.

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post Apr 15 2012, 22:28
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Should I shrine all of these now(because soon they'll be relatively less valuable- I can get them all the time), or is there an advantage to saving them?

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/HentaiVerse_Advice#Trophies
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