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How much is your evade / block / parry / Mit when you do this? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) The overall performance is hugely base on these numbers (and situation), so yeah, thing might not be the same among different level. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

One thing for certain, though, is that the higher Mit you have, the stronger Protection spell. While SV performance remains constant regardless of stats.

At the moment, with shade, I found SV and PA have a different feel to it but somewhat equaled in overall performance. I cast whatever spell whenever I feel like it. True Story. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Haste is a must though... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

4.7% evade, 0% block, 29.4% parry, 22.4% resist, 58.9% phy. miti.
Yeah that's my power set, and I'm playing in flimsy IW. Still there's some difference.
Trying to calculate that yields no logical result, since protection always loses (compared to block and evade).
So I'll say it depends on your playstyle.

Haste is so good that if you don't use bleeding, you better have haste with you all the time.

But in arena LV.220 that really hard for me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Try to DW with EOD arenas if you can't go through that with two-handed.
Some people can do with 2-handed, some people can't. It's difficult to pin-point the problem based on given information.
So what are the equips you're using? (mainly the weapon)

This post has been edited by varst: Apr 12 2012, 08:04

From my quick cal, the different in your case is fairly small on paper, unlike my example which is low level, low avoidance, low mit, and the difference is larger in that case.

That's why I always said: Evade is overrated! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

This post has been edited by buktore: Apr 12 2012, 08:22

Should we also consider the effect from spark/SP shield?
I mean, evade may or may not provide better overall protection, but without SP shield and spark, you may risk one-hit death in certain situation?

SP Shield is always on IA for me, so I don't really think about it too much. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) ... I don't really use Spark much. I do in IW, since I really don't want to die there...

Evade DO provide defense, but it's unreliable, which tend to make its performance varied widely, both perceived and/or actual. Whatever the case, Protection is better at conserving your SP point than SV AFAIK.


Mind you, the most reliable defense is Stun. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

This post has been edited by buktore: Apr 12 2012, 09:04

4.7% evade, 0% block, 29.4% parry, 22.4% resist, 58.9% phy. miti.
Yeah that's my power set, and I'm playing in flimsy IW. Still there's some difference.
Trying to calculate that yields no logical result, since protection always loses (compared to block and evade).
So I'll say it depends on your playstyle.

Haste is so good that if you don't use bleeding, you better have haste with you all the time.
Try to DW with EOD arenas if you can't go through that with two-handed.
Some people can do with 2-handed, some people can't. It's difficult to pin-point the problem based on given information.
So what are the equips you're using? (mainly the weapon)

Now my weapon is this.

2Hand => http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=409cbbdbbb

This is my best DW.(in my feeling)

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=61d3c5be28
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=d2713909d1

Thanks for your advise. I'll try with this tomorrow.

you might want to look into illithid bleeders (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

edit: actually bleeding won't be *super* necessary, but illithid helps a lot for melees' first time in schoolgirls IMO

This post has been edited by dcherry: Apr 12 2012, 09:08

I wouldn't know but from what I heard, it did. Light armor had a real speed advantage. Now the speed advantage it has is from the agi stat boost.

Yeah, burden used to directly lower action speed which made heavy armor much more disadvantageous.
Now that it only effects evade (and you can get more "evade" by using shield armor with "block" until your prof goes up (which lowers your burden)), heavy armor is more popular.

Sorry if that was confusing (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

There's a difference of about 40 points of Agility between my light armor set and my heavy one, that's over 10 points of action speed drop...

That's why I always said: Evade is overrated! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Not when you've got 35% evade (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

TY all for your responses, I have changed my character accordingly and have found that I can survive a little bit longer... (still get facerolled if I attempt arenas on IWBTH difficulty >.<)

Last question is: Katana > Scythe? Or does it really matter on what scythe and Katana you get?

Updated Stats, Abilities, and Equipment:

SP Shield is always on IA for me, so I don't really think about it too much. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) ... I don't really use Spark much. I do in IW, since I really don't want to die there...

Mind you, the most reliable defense is to kill all the things before they can react. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

FTFY (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I like to put SV and haste in IA, because SP shield needs the least upkeep per turn, and thus saves the least mana with IA. Spark for difficult arenas and long-ass IWs.

Thanks for your advise. I'll try with this tomorrow.

Try to pick something like illithid or slaughter for your DW MH, and choose an OH rapier with better PA chance/duration.
Also, utilize your SP shield. That should be better than silence against schoolgirls in EODs.
Also, play in normal difficulty. Don't try to waste your time in the first try.

Last question is: Katana > Scythe? Or does it really matter on what scythe and Katana you get?

Try to use the full set of plate. Sent you two plates you're missing.

Scythe is better than katana in terms of bleeding damage. Max base bleeding for scythe is 30, while for katana it's 25. Katana do have better accuracy though, but as you progress scythe will be better.
If you want to try the scythe (bleeding) way, stock your defense. Use plate/shield armor of protection, use protection spell (don't use haste!), and find a scythe will high bleeding chance/duration/damage.

Also, pick 1 poison/full weaken against bosses/legends later, when you have spare APs. Pick some SP/OC tanks after that, so you can use shatter strikes in spirit stance and have more SP to spare in battle.

This post has been edited by varst: Apr 12 2012, 09:49

Not when you've got 35% evade (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

But I have more than that... And even with Shadow veil, this still happen. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Last question is: Katana > Scythe? Or does it really matter on what scythe and Katana you get?

Scythe are better (more damage and bleed, but less accuracy than Katana). But as always, it's the stats that matter.

Now my weapon is this.

2Hand => http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=409cbbdbbb

This is my best DW.(in my feeling)

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=61d3c5be28
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=d2713909d1

Thanks for your advise. I'll try with this tomorrow.

If you like scythes, REALLY do get a new scythe. If you're going slaughter, don't settle for less than wdb 60. Here's mine, Fine Scythe of Slaughter. Same bleed, and even w/ 7 less levels, about 160 more damage.

Following Dcherry's suggestion, I'm going the ithilid scythe route for longer battle sessions and it's working pretty well for me.

I will pick illithid mace for EOD and illithid scythe for other long battle scssions (if you want to go 2H)
Problem with scythe on EOD is that you'll need tons of turns to kill legends using bleeding, and that will deplete your mana much faster than mace (which takes less turns)

Also, utilize your SP shield. That should be better than silence against schoolgirls in EODs.
Also, play in normal difficulty. Don't try to waste your time in the first try.
Try to use the full set of plate. Sent you two plates you're missing.

Scythe is better than katana in terms of bleeding damage. Max base bleeding for scythe is 30, while for katana it's 25. Katana do have better accuracy though, but as you progress scythe will be better.
If you want to try the scythe (bleeding) way, stock your defense. Use plate/shield armor of protection, use protection spell (don't use haste!), and find a scythe will high bleeding chance/duration/damage.

Also, pick 1 poison/full weaken against bosses/legends later, when you have spare APs. Pick some SP/OC tanks after that, so you can use shatter strikes in spirit stance and have more SP to spare in battle.

You sir are a hero, If there is anything I can do to repay you... Well maybe not anything (don't want this to get awkward) but really ty.

This post has been edited by shoki6458: Apr 12 2012, 10:01

If you like scythes, REALLY do get a new scythe. If you're going slaughter, don't settle for less than wdb 60. Here's mine, Fine Scythe of Slaughter. Same bleed, and even w/ 7 less levels, about 160 more damage.

Following Dcherry's suggestion, I'm going the ithilid scythe route for longer battle sessions and it's working pretty well for me.

«I prefer the weapon you only have to fire once. That's how dad did it, that's how America does it, and it's worked out pretty well so far.»

«I prefer the weapon you only have to fire once. That's how dad did it, that's how America does it, and it's worked out pretty well so far.»

Uuh-huh... Hiroshima is a good example of that. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Uuh-huh... Hiroshima is a good example of that. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Yeah, so is the Nord-Ost siege "solution". Your point being?

Yeah, so is the Nord-Ost siege "solution". Your point being?

I ain't saying our government didn't make mistakes, but that's not a justification for others.

How's that connected to HV anyway

This post has been edited by varst: Apr 12 2012, 11:05

How's that connected to HV anyway

Well, as much as ponies were connected to HV before Rainboro have started to watch it. :3

This post has been edited by Evil Scorpio: Apr 12 2012, 11:08