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post Apr 10 2012, 10:29
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QUOTE(Hoheneim @ Apr 10 2012, 16:24) *

BTW, I just noticed it sets a new max for Magic Crit, but I don't know how its Mana Conservation compares to others because it's not calculated by Derpymal's equip calculator nor the base stat display... Or is it just me using old scripts?


Mana Conservation is an unscaled factor. It won't change with your level.
So it's WYSIWYG

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post Apr 10 2012, 10:32
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So, after not having played for a few months and only periodically login in for daily credits and 1 hath, I decided that maybe I should give it a try again. Thing is, my equipment is most likely completely outdated (got a Niten Ichiryuu set with fleet armor and a Ebony staff of dest. + Elementalist set), and my skill points are mostly tilted towards the mage line (52 str 61 dex 78 agi 86 end 87 int 93 wis).
So, first I'd like to know, is the equipment I got like half a year or even further back still useful, or should I get something new?
Second is, I'm close to hitting 400 Hath; and I'm wondering which perk I should get. Was considering Rainbow aura for 50% Regeneration Bonus, though for that I'd have to save a bit more; White + Black aura might be nice since it would give me another 100% XP boost. I'm not quite sure how useful the Penny Pincher, Organized Mind or Crystarium Perks are; is there any value in leveling up your monsters now?
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post Apr 10 2012, 10:34
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QUOTE(varst @ Apr 10 2012, 10:29) *

Mana Conservation is an unscaled factor. It won't change with your level.
So it's WYSIWYG


It's pretty good on its own, then.

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post Apr 10 2012, 10:35
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QUOTE(varst @ Apr 10 2012, 01:06) *

As far as I remember, it's something like
weak against: 0 or below
normal: 0 to 50
Resistant to: 50 and above
Impervious to: 75


Maybe in effect only, but for custom mobs, elements with 75 resistance will still be listed under "Resistant to" when scanned. I was disappointed to find this out after getting my daimon's Dark resistance to 75. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

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post Apr 10 2012, 10:36
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QUOTE(Fukyuu_Auron @ Apr 10 2012, 10:32) *

is there any value in leveling up your monsters now?


They bring you loot, that's to say materials to improve your gear. So crystarium could be useful.
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post Apr 10 2012, 10:45
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QUOTE(Fukyuu_Auron @ Apr 10 2012, 16:32) *

So, after not having played for a few months and only periodically login in for daily credits and 1 hath, I decided that maybe I should give it a try again. Thing is, my equipment is most likely completely outdated (got a Niten Ichiryuu set with fleet armor and a Ebony staff of dest. + Elementalist set), and my skill points are mostly tilted towards the mage line (52 str 61 dex 78 agi 86 end 87 int 93 wis).
So, first I'd like to know, is the equipment I got like half a year or even further back still useful, or should I get something new?
Second is, I'm close to hitting 400 Hath; and I'm wondering which perk I should get. Was considering Rainbow aura for 50% Regeneration Bonus, though for that I'd have to save a bit more; White + Black aura might be nice since it would give me another 100% XP boost. I'm not quite sure how useful the Penny Pincher, Organized Mind or Crystarium Perks are; is there any value in leveling up your monsters now?


1. Equips. I can't be sure if your equips are outdated. Niten and destruction staff should be fine, elementalist now have no burden (so you may need to replace them if you want to), shades have no burden now but have more intereference (difficult to determine usefulness unless with equip link). Generally you should find new elementalists, but they're rare after the patch; the alternative is to use EDB phases, though it may be too early in terms of level.

2. Hath
Rainbow is better than white + black, and if you only need 100 hath, it's better to wait for that rainbow. EXP isn't that important now, since you can easily grind EXP with houries and gain tons of EXP (1/10 of your level's requirement per day).
Credit perks...not worth it unless you can produce tons of haths yourself. Still not worth it.
EXP perks...too easy to grind EXP now
Crystal perks...it depends. The more your play, the more you benefit from this perk.

I would choose rainbow if I were you. Seems to be the most useful one.

QUOTE(n125 @ Apr 10 2012, 16:35) *

Maybe in effect only, but for custom mobs, elements with 75 resistance will still be listed under "Resistant to" when scanned. I was disappointed to find this out after getting my daimon's Dark resistance to 75. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)


Don't know. At some point in the past I've seen 'impervious to' on those natural 75 resistance, but I rarely use scan so I'm not sure.

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post Apr 10 2012, 10:50
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QUOTE(Fukyuu_Auron @ Apr 10 2012, 01:32) *

So, after not having played for a few months and only periodically login in for daily credits and 1 hath, I decided that maybe I should give it a try again. Thing is, my equipment is most likely completely outdated (got a Niten Ichiryuu set with fleet armor and a Ebony staff of dest. + Elementalist set), and my skill points are mostly tilted towards the mage line (52 str 61 dex 78 agi 86 end 87 int 93 wis).
So, first I'd like to know, is the equipment I got like half a year or even further back still useful, or should I get something new?
Second is, I'm close to hitting 400 Hath; and I'm wondering which perk I should get. Was considering Rainbow aura for 50% Regeneration Bonus, though for that I'd have to save a bit more; White + Black aura might be nice since it would give me another 100% XP boost. I'm not quite sure how useful the Penny Pincher, Organized Mind or Crystarium Perks are; is there any value in leveling up your monsters now?

Your equips sound good. And honestly, even though there have been some patches your gear might be pre-nerf. Post them and we can tell you. And if they aren't any good anymore (doubtful) there is plenty of free stuff in the wts forum.

The stats for mage usually goes int>wis>agi>end>str>dex

As far as the hath, I would train the auto cast slots. I'm saving up for them but its kind of hard when I don't buy hath and I don't get it at the dawn. So I just wait for the artifacts to drop them for me.

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post Apr 10 2012, 11:06
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EXP isn't that important now, since you can easily grind EXP with houries <---what are houries? ^^;
And how to create links to my equipment again...? What tool do I need for that, and what's the button I gotta press for that? Got the STAT one, but I think that's not the one...
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post Apr 10 2012, 11:12
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QUOTE(Fukyuu_Auron @ Apr 10 2012, 02:06) *

EXP isn't that important now, since you can easily grind EXP with houries <---what are houries? ^^;
And how to create links to my equipment again...? What tool do I need for that, and what's the button I gotta press for that? Got the STAT one, but I think that's not the one...


Visit the front page (https://e-hentai.org/) and you'll be able to trigger a random encounter every hour from the last encounter. Visiting the home page at 00:00 UTC (Dawn of the Day Event) will give you 10% of the total Experience needed for the next level. I think these also appear when you're browsing a gallery, but I'm not sure, since I just visit the home page to trigger these events.

To create equipment links, just hover the cursor over the desired piece of equipment and press 'c' on the keyboard to create a pop-up window which should enable you to get the equipment link.

As for the equipment, if you decide to continue on being a mage, you'll definitely want to get yourself some newer Gossamer Elementalist pieces, which are now burdenless (and quite a bit later down the line, you'll want phase).

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post Apr 10 2012, 11:19
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What he said.

Also, are you sure you want to use cloth armor for your niten set? Fleet is a nice suffix I suppose but cloth is usually only for a mage setup.
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post Apr 10 2012, 11:24
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QUOTE(Fukyuu_Auron @ Apr 10 2012, 17:11) *

edit: sry for double post, can't seem to find a delete function X_X

Elementalist:

Niten Ichiryu:



You definitely need some new equips.

Melee:
2-handed should be better than niten now, and you need either DW/1H against ROB.
So pick a mace/scythe of slaughter, or DW with club + rapier (or other choices).
Silk isn't good anymore.
If you want to go for protection, try plate of protection.
If you still want to try to be a light melee (which is a bit harder than heavy melee now), you should get some shade of fleet/arcanist/shadowdancer.

Mage:
You need a better staff which better MDB. 31 is okay, but you should be able to find something better.
All your gossamers have high burden, so try to find some new gossamers with no burden.
Or you can skip the transition and go directly to EDB (surtr, mjolnir, freyr) phases.
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post Apr 10 2012, 11:47
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QUOTE(varst @ Apr 10 2012, 16:45) *

2. Hath
Rainbow is better than white + black, and if you only need 100 hath, it's better to wait for that rainbow. EXP isn't that important now, since you can easily grind EXP with houries and gain tons of EXP (1/10 of your level's requirement per day).
Credit perks...not worth it unless you can produce tons of haths yourself. Still not worth it.
EXP perks...too easy to grind EXP now
Crystal perks...it depends. The more your play, the more you benefit from this perk.

I would choose rainbow if I were you. Seems to be the most useful one.
Don't know. At some point in the past I've seen 'impervious to' on those natural 75 resistance, but I rarely use scan so I'm not sure.


My hath is just enough for IA I and II...I might give up on Rainbow for now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Apr 10 2012, 11:55
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QUOTE(MidNightPass @ Apr 10 2012, 17:47) *

My hath is just enough for IA I and II...I might give up on Rainbow for now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)


Well...mages definitely benefits more from rainbow perk, but for melees it's difficult to determine which one's better, since one increases the mana production rate and the other decreases the mana consumption rate

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post Apr 10 2012, 12:03
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i just found gummy figurine in bazaar, what is it for?
it's 100k and I don't have enogh credits for it

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post Apr 10 2012, 12:05
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i just found gummy figurine in bazaar, what is it for?


It's a pony figurine. Collect at least 21 different figurines to unlock the Orbital Friendship Cannon skill.

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Skills#Special_Skills
http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Items#Collectables
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post Apr 10 2012, 12:50
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I know this has been asked lots of times, it's about DW.

What's the most popular combination of weapons?
And why?

Which should be both (MH-OH) weapons suffixes?
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post Apr 10 2012, 12:50
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And what's the best if you want to level fast, mage or melee? Back when I started, mage was all the hype, how about now? I barely can make it through the low level arenas now without getting my bottom handed to me X_X
Also, what's more useful, ~30 proficiency bonus to elemental, or 20 elemental damage bonus to a specific element, say fire? since atm I'm using fire and ice magic, would I profit more from the proficiency bonus to elemental or from a elemental damage bonus to fire?

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QUOTE(varst @ Apr 10 2012, 04:13) *
Wait what? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Well, Mechanoids have high Holy resistance and Undeads high Dark resistance.
They work pretty well against mages.
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post Apr 10 2012, 13:33
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QUOTE(Muramasa777 @ Apr 10 2012, 18:50) *

I know this has been asked lots of times, it's about DW.

What's the most popular combination of weapons?
And why?

Which should be both (MH-OH) weapons suffixes?


Club + Rapier is simply the best against ROB, but other than that people seems to have different opinions on weapon combinations.
Note that the following are some general ideas which some may disagree.

MH: clube/axe
choose one with high weapon damage, axe also with good bleeding chance/duration/damage
MH/OH: rapier
better to put OH, but it's still okay for MH. High weapon damage for MH, high parry chance and PA chance/duration for OH
OH: dagger/shortsword/waki
choose one with good parry. Dagger is the best, waki is similar to dagger (and rarer), and shortsword is good-for-nothing

QUOTE(Fukyuu_Auron @ Apr 10 2012, 18:50) *

And what's the best if you want to level fast, mage or melee? Back when I started, mage was all the hype, how about now? I barely can make it through the low level arenas now without getting my bottom handed to me X_X
Also, what's more useful, ~30 proficiency bonus to elemental, or 20 elemental damage bonus to a specific element, say fire? since atm I'm using fire and ice magic, would I profit more from the proficiency bonus to elemental or from a elemental damage bonus to fire?


They should have about the same leveling speed. IMO Mage levels by clearing tons of rounds, and melee levels by playing in high difficulty. Though many lower-leveled mages/melees like to play high-difficulty houries because of the EXP.

And mage's (partial) damage formula is
(magical damage bonus) * (1 + prof./200) * (1 + EDB /100)
From previous calculations, you're going to have more damage output using EDB than using prof. clothes. However, EDB only increases one type of elements, so if you have insufficient level to kill most of the enemies with 1-2 hits, the EDB clothes will look worse than prof. clothes.

QUOTE((Cheater) Tiap @ Apr 10 2012, 19:24) *

Well, Mechanoids have high Holy resistance and Undeads high Dark resistance.
They work pretty well against mages.


Nah I mean they need to be much stronger if they want to piss me off. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
I still think the dominant factor for monster's strength is its PL, not its species.

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