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post Apr 10 2012, 05:01
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Mechanoids/Undeads are good to piss off holy/dark mages, but they are slow and somewhat harder to level up to high levels (due to the +50 resistances).
Beasts are... okay? I don't remember having many problems with them, maybe it's a different story if you are a melee.
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post Apr 10 2012, 05:06
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I dunno, I don't bother scanning enemies as melee since it doesn't matter what they are resistant to. I'm either gonna bash you with my toothpick, or I'm gonna bash you with my toothpick.

So is that a yes or no to beast? They don't have a really bad weakness and only 1 stat stars off at 50, and their physical base is fairly balanced and high.
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post Apr 10 2012, 05:13
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I don't have any Beasts, so I can't say how good they are at bringing back loot.
I would go with Undeads and Mechanoids, but that's more of a personal choice.
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post Apr 10 2012, 06:13
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QUOTE((Cheater) Tiap @ Apr 10 2012, 11:01) *

Mechanoids/Undeads are good to piss off holy/dark mages,


Wait what? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Apr 10 2012, 06:18
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I'm playing a mage and I want to do schoolgirl runs on EOD: what do I need and what must I do? I managed only 5 schoolgirls before I ran out of pots and couldn't go any further. Can a mage manage EOD while relying on ET and a divine proc currently at 90? Spiritual proc is at 69...(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

Also, is there any value in Confuse for IWBTH random battles (or any value in Confuse in general)?
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post Apr 10 2012, 06:23
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QUOTE(Bloodmare @ Apr 10 2012, 12:18) *

I'm playing a mage and I want to do schoolgirl runs on EOD: what do I need and what must I do? I managed only 5 schoolgirls before I ran out of pots and couldn't go any further. Can a mage manage EOD while relying on ET and a divine proc currently at 90? Spiritual proc is at 69...(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

Also, is there any value in Confuse for IWBTH random battles (or any value in Confuse in general)?


No, confuse is almost useless, since it's too easy to break.

As for EOD....what equips you're using? And what spells you're using?
Most likely you're going to ET through the rounds to get sufficient mana.
And yeah, EOD needs a better strategy than other arenas.
It's better for you to describe what you're doing first, so we can pinpoint the problems (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Apr 10 2012, 07:04
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QUOTE(Bloodmare @ Apr 10 2012, 04:18) *

I'm playing a mage and I want to do schoolgirl runs on EOD: what do I need and what must I do? I managed only 5 schoolgirls before I ran out of pots and couldn't go any further. Can a mage manage EOD while relying on ET and a divine proc currently at 90? Spiritual proc is at 69...(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

Also, is there any value in Confuse for IWBTH random battles (or any value in Confuse in general)?


grind grind grind

do GF, CF, IW on normal-hard and spam holy spells. Burn up 13 pots and repeat, don't bother with schoolgirls until your proc is +200.

you can do the scholgirls without using any pots if you want the take the time to ET that much.
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post Apr 10 2012, 07:24
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QUOTE(Kaosumx @ Apr 10 2012, 04:15) *

Question!

What class of monsters is the best, or which monster classes are good to create in MonsterLab (and no don't tell me sprite because you don't want to see more giants).?

well got a nice chart for you, after i saw Varst's awhile back (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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if u r shooting for high levels, i'd suggest arthropods or reptiles, no one in their right mind would use crushing and cold in the land of giants, and they are just as easy to level as humanoids. otherwise i'd suggest beasts or reptiles.

also a question, whats the base agi needed for monsters to reach max action speed at level 300

P.S. 500,000,000 Eila (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Apr 10 2012, 07:37
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QUOTE(qqaaqq @ Apr 10 2012, 13:24) *

well got a nice chart for you, after i saw Varst's awhile back (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
also a question, whats the base agi needed for monsters to reach max action speed at level 300



That would be base 25 AGI, the same as FSM, to reach max action speed at lv. 300.

And when I was making a chart, I assume the viewpoint of a normal player. 500 PL should be difficult enough for them to achieve. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
If you want to have enough crystals to build a monster above 500PL, you surely should know what you're doing.
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post Apr 10 2012, 07:44
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QUOTE(varst @ Apr 10 2012, 07:37) *

That would be base 25 AGI, the same as FSM, to reach max action speed at lv. 300.

And when I was making a chart, I assume the viewpoint of a normal player. 500 PL should be difficult enough for them to achieve. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
If you want to have enough crystals to build a monster above 500PL, you surely should know what you're doing.


almost like saying a millionaire should knows what they are doing (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

almost.. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Apr 10 2012, 07:45
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QUOTE(varst @ Apr 9 2012, 20:23) *

As for EOD....what equips you're using? And what spells you're using?
Most likely you're going to ET through the rounds to get sufficient mana.
And yeah, EOD needs a better strategy than other arenas.
It's better for you to describe what you're doing first, so we can pinpoint the problems (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


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Superior Redwood Staff of the Owl
Superior Phase Cap of the Fox
Average Gossamer Robe of the Owl (need new robe...)
Fine Phase Gloves of Surtr
Fine Phase Pants of the Fox
Superior Phase Shoes of the Fox

Spells: Weaken, Blind, Poison, Nerf, spam Purge/Banish, ET on schoolgirls. Not using Dark or Soul spells yet. I've got SV and Haste on auto, and cast Spark and Regen 2

QUOTE(4EverLost @ Apr 9 2012, 21:04) *

grind grind grind

do GF, CF, IW on normal-hard and spam holy spells. Burn up 13 pots and repeat, don't bother with schoolgirls until your proc is +200.

you can do the scholgirls without using any pots if you want the take the time to ET that much.


(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) Ah, well at least I had the right idea about grinding in CF.
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post Apr 10 2012, 07:59
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QUOTE(Bloodmare @ Apr 10 2012, 13:45) *

Equips:
Superior Redwood Staff of the Owl
Superior Phase Cap of the Fox
Average Gossamer Robe of the Owl (need new robe...)
Fine Phase Gloves of Surtr
Fine Phase Pants of the Fox
Superior Phase Shoes of the Fox

Spells: Weaken, Blind, Poison, Nerf, spam Purge/Banish, ET on schoolgirls. Not using Dark or Soul spells yet. I've got SV and Haste on auto, and cast Spark and Regen 2
(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) Ah, well at least I had the right idea about grinding in CF.


Well then, it really depends on whether you want to use appropriate equips or not.

First of all, you don't need that many spells to clear EOD on normal difficulty. I will pick weaken and nerf only. You may use more, but that will deplete your mana reserve much faster. And do you have SP shield? In EOD it works much better than spark.
You don't need to use dark/soul spells, holy spells should be enough.

And....if you want to use better equips, at least try to find a heimdall staff with high ET chance/duration (oak can be good). Or redwood staff of focus/destruction with high ET chance/duration, if you don't want to spend too much credits. Owl is among the worst staffs you can have.
Also, get some heaven-sent/heimdall clothes (with no burden). That will make your holy spells more powerful. Heimdall tends to be quite expansive, so you can use heaven-sent if you don't want to spend too much.

4everlost is true about ET; if you take your time and ET, there shouldn't be that much trouble against legends (assuming you have enough SP). If you have better equips you can ET less; if you want to use your current equip you'll need to ET more.

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post Apr 10 2012, 08:22
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Thanks for the advice. I'm investing in SP, and I think I'll fish around for better equips. I didn't realize Owl was among the worst staffs to have. That staff has the highest ET chance of the staffs I currently have, but oh well.
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post Apr 10 2012, 08:25
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QUOTE(qqaaqq @ Apr 10 2012, 01:24) *

well got a nice chart for you, after i saw Varst's awhile back (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


Thanks.

QUOTE(varst @ Apr 10 2012, 01:59) *

Owl is among the worst staffs you can have.


http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=4caefa89a9 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Apr 10 2012, 08:28
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QUOTE(Bloodmare @ Apr 10 2012, 14:22) *

Thanks for the advice. I'm investing in SP, and I think I'll fish around for better equips. I didn't realize Owl was among the worst staffs to have. That staff has the highest ET chance of the staffs I currently have, but oh well.


The ranking for staff usually goes like:
Destruction > EDB suffix > prof. suffix >>>>>> owl/fox
Some focus staff can be as good as EDB staffs in lower difficulty, but you need to find those with mana conservation

And you need to know the staff's highest ET chance: for redwood it's 50%, for others it's 40%.
The ET duration depends on individual staff/player's level and is hard to tell

QUOTE(Kaosumx @ Apr 10 2012, 14:25) *


Meh....that one's like pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-nerf now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

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post Apr 10 2012, 09:44
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Question: what's the min element defense so a monster appears as resistant to that element when scanned?
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post Apr 10 2012, 10:06
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QUOTE(Dan31 @ Apr 10 2012, 15:44) *

Question: what's the min element defense so a monster appears as resistant to that element when scanned?


As far as I remember, it's something like
weak against: 0 or below
normal: 0 to 50
Resistant to: 50 and above
Impervious to: 75
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post Apr 10 2012, 10:12
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I got a few questions.

Does intelligence affect the amount of turns a "supportive" magic effect stays up? What is it that decides how much a spell will cost, level of self, intelligence (strength of spell)?
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QUOTE(pocky00 @ Apr 10 2012, 16:12) *

I got a few questions.

Does intelligence affect the amount of turns a "supportive" magic effect stays up? What is it that decides how much a spell will cost, level of self, intelligence (strength of spell)?


http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Spells

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post Apr 10 2012, 10:24
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QUOTE(Bloodmare @ Apr 10 2012, 08:22) *

Thanks for the advice. I'm investing in SP, and I think I'll fish around for better equips. I didn't realize Owl was among the worst staffs to have. That staff has the highest ET chance of the staffs I currently have, but oh well.


I could lend you this one, if you want:

Superior Redwood Staff of Focus

Unfortunately its level is below yours, but it's a bit more useful than you current one all the same.

You can grind squandering less pots and maybe (just maybe) you could use it for the actual run.

BTW, I just noticed it sets a new max for Magic Crit, but I don't know how its Mana Conservation compares to others because it's not calculated by Derpymal's equip calculator nor the base stat display... Or is it just me using old scripts?
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