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post Apr 7 2012, 03:48
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QUOTE(HaliZorat @ Apr 6 2012, 20:40) *

Thought it was up to 5 levels below my current? And yeah, don't know why I forgot that since that was the whole reason I'm dumping the trophies now rather than at 250. Whoops.

I have in general gotten about 2 below my current when mass shrining. I didn't know it went upto 5.
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post Apr 7 2012, 04:03
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I don't think you should wait until you're level xxx before using trophies. You can get nice stuff at any level and its not the next of the world if you happen to get something godly that needs to be leveled up later. You could be using item for all those levels.
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post Apr 7 2012, 04:10
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We were talking about the box @300+, not trophies in general.

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post Apr 7 2012, 04:30
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QUOTE(Muramasa777 @ Apr 7 2012, 05:22) *

What do you think about wearing a non-eth mace with shade armor? Which kind shade armor would make the best for this strategy?


It depends on the difficulty and the number of rounds you're going to play.
In general, light armor should have better survival chance at higher difficulty (because of its evade), while heavy armor should have better survival chance at lower difficulty (because of its mitigation). But of course, you'll have to consider your equip's quality.

How about you try getting some plate armor of protection first? It's inexpensive, and you can get a general feeling on heavy armor.

QUOTE(putadshere @ Apr 7 2012, 07:27) *

When is the best time to buff your character?
Is it near the end of a round, when there's only one monster left(less risk to you) but that could cause major damage cuz he's dead?
Or at the beginning of a round where all enemies are full health, since they seem to do a lot less damage(if any) before I attack them?


QUOTE(putadshere @ Apr 7 2012, 07:28) *

And Generally, is it better to use "Average Power Armor" or "Superior shield armor"? Are the benefits from being power armor worth the relative loss in quality?


I would still suggest people to replenish their buffs at the end of rounds; it's a good habit that will help you when you progress in levels. Unless you know you're risk-free to replenish at the beginning of rounds, don't.

Also, suffix don't matter that much for equips. You'll need to look at their stats.
In general:
power: ADB, phy. mitigation
shield: block, phy. mitigation

They can be used in different situations, or you may mix them with plate. You really need to try that before making your decision, depending on your playing style; everyone have their own style, and that should affect the general gameplay.

QUOTE(HaliZorat @ Apr 7 2012, 08:45) *

So... Going to initiate a mass trophy dump after my auction is over, but I'm not to sure split up what to use them for.

1-Hand Weapons: Can potentially get upgrades to my pretty crappy eth weapons. Any possible leftover eths could be sold.
2-Hand Weapons: Eth Mace or eth Scythe would be an awesome thing to get. Not sure how likely it would be for me to get them though.
Staves: Eh, nope.
Shields: Lol-no.
Cloth: Good phases are always a good thing to sell, but given their rarity, I'd probably get 99% Cotton/Gossamer, 0.99% Owl/Fox Phase and 0.01% EDB Phase. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) I'll pass.
Light: Potential to upgrade my current Shade set-up, but Light Armor doesn't seem to popular these days.
Heavy: They seem to be popular these days... but I'm cautious in shrining a couple hundred trophies for them. Not sure how much they reliably sell for.

I'm probably going to do spread my Boss Trophies evenly between 1H, 2H, Heavy and Light, and my Schoolgirl Trophies between 2H and Light.

Not sure what to spend my Appendages on though... Should I go all 1H and hope for a magnificent/legendary eth? Or maybe some equally good light armor? Since I'm not a 2H user, spending them on 2H is too big a gamble IMO. Thoughts? (Kind of an odd thing to ask, I know.)


I still put my bet on the following:
boss trophies -> clothes
legendary trophies -> 2h/heavy
noodly -> staff or 2/h

Boss on clothes because you're not going to get any other things useful; the bonus isn't that good. Seriously.
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post Apr 7 2012, 04:40
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QUOTE(varst @ Apr 6 2012, 22:30) *

I still put my bet on the following:
boss trophies -> clothes
legendary trophies -> 2h/heavy
noodly -> staff or 2/h
Boss on clothes because you're not going to get any other things useful; the bonus isn't that good. Seriously.


Noted, though I'm still wary of staves for Noodly (and cloth in general) because I would have absolutely no personal use for them. I'm hoping to upgrade my gear as a DW player as well as get some stuff to sell, so mage stuff is my lowest priority.

Also still going to use some trophies for 1H. While I could live with my Eth Club, my eth rapier is certainly in need of replacement...
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post Apr 7 2012, 04:47
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you can just feed the boss ones for 1Hs.
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post Apr 7 2012, 08:23
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Which, if any, kinds of Plate armor are worth keeping? Because shrining for heavy armor has been very, very unsatisfactory.
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post Apr 7 2012, 09:36
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QUOTE(HaliZorat @ Apr 6 2012, 23:23) *

Which, if any, kinds of Plate armor are worth keeping? Because shrining for heavy armor has been very, very unsatisfactory.

Only ones worth keeping are "of protection" (assuming it's got decent stats). Maybe even some spirit ward for fsm. Other than that, I say junk em unless you have exquisites with good stats.

i see a monster plate dump, but its lvl 220ish, so that's not you HaliZorat?

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post Apr 7 2012, 10:28
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QUOTE(HaliZorat @ Apr 7 2012, 10:40) *

Noted, though I'm still wary of staves for Noodly (and cloth in general) because I would have absolutely no personal use for them. I'm hoping to upgrade my gear as a DW player as well as get some stuff to sell, so mage stuff is my lowest priority.

Also still going to use some trophies for 1H. While I could live with my Eth Club, my eth rapier is certainly in need of replacement...


Er....well, since you've shrined that, I don't need to explain....right? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Apr 7 2012, 10:29
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i.imgur.com/QKdw5.jpg

i'm sure that this status allocating is wrong... rather.. i can't even finish 40 rounds of battle without items.
can anyone give me some advices?
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post Apr 7 2012, 10:34
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QUOTE(just om3ga @ Apr 7 2012, 16:29) *

i.imgur.com/QKdw5.jpg

i'm sure that this status allocating is wrong... rather.. i can't even finish 40 rounds of battle without items.
can anyone give me some advices?


You should be proud of it. Finishing 40 rounds or battle without items isn't such a bad thing at your level.
Or you can post you equips to see if there's room for improvement.
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post Apr 7 2012, 10:43
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QUOTE(varst @ Apr 7 2012, 15:34) *

You should be proud of it. Finishing 40 rounds or battle without items isn't such a bad thing at your level.
Or you can post you equips to see if there's room for improvement.


err.. how do you post your equip? one by one screenshooting or is there any easier way? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
without items, i could just finish 20 rounds... with my fine mace of slaughter (330.87) but with niten ichiryu i could do 35 rounds w/o items... though now i'm leveling my 2hand proficiency.
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post Apr 7 2012, 10:46
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QUOTE(just om3ga @ Apr 7 2012, 16:43) *

err.. how do you post your equip? one by one screenshooting or is there any easier way? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
without items, i could just finish 20 rounds... with my fine mace of slaughter (330.87) but with niten ichiryu i could do 35 rounds w/o items... though now i'm leveling my 2hand proficiency.


You can point at the equipment link and press 'c'. A pop-up should then appear.
Please show both weapons and armors.
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post Apr 7 2012, 10:49
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QUOTE(varst @ Apr 7 2012, 15:46) *

You can point at the equipment link and press 'c'. A pop-up should then appear.
Please show both weapons and armors.


http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=c591ef419f
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=727745a8d9
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=4a19450814
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=774efeb8f6
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=a8af240197
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=a8af240197
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post Apr 7 2012, 11:07
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QUOTE(just om3ga @ Apr 7 2012, 16:49) *

Equips


Get a better mace. You can easily find some with better damage/stun chance than the one you're using.
The best choice would be getting an ethereal mace/scythe, but that would cost you at least a few hundred thousand credits. So you may want to settle with the non-ethereal one now.

Armors should be 'protection' suffix for plates. Try to find those with high physical mitigation and low burden/interference.
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post Apr 7 2012, 11:23
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QUOTE(just om3ga @ Apr 7 2012, 01:49) *

since you have only straight mitigation and 6% parry for defense, might consider finding a piece or 2 or 3 of shield armor. I think shield armor helped me survive quite a bit sub-100.

If you're using cure, switch to regen. much better for melee.

Your supportive prof seems low. Are you using protect? it increases your mitigations.

check my store for gear. i just sold some of my good cheap 'protection' pieces, but still have some left.

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post Apr 7 2012, 12:02
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QUOTE(etothex @ Apr 7 2012, 16:23) *

since you have only straight mitigation and 6% parry for defense, might consider finding a piece or 2 or 3 of shield armor. I think shield armor helped me survive quite a bit sub-100.

If you're using cure, switch to regen. much better for melee.

Your supportive prof seems low. Are you using protect? it increases your mitigations.

check my store for gear. i just sold some of my good cheap 'protection' pieces, but still have some left.


i use protection only when channeling in effect, and... after i calculate, regen almost 3 times cure, yet only 8 MP difference. thank you for advice.

QUOTE(varst @ Apr 7 2012, 16:07) *

Get a better mace. You can easily find some with better damage/stun chance than the one you're using.
The best choice would be getting an ethereal mace/scythe, but that would cost you at least a few hundred thousand credits. So you may want to settle with the non-ethereal one now.

Armors should be 'protection' suffix for plates. Try to find those with high physical mitigation and low burden/interference.


oh, so there's rule behind those equip names???
i'll try browse in eq shop and forum shops.. thank you so much for info.
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post Apr 7 2012, 12:06
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QUOTE(just om3ga @ Apr 7 2012, 18:02) *

oh, so there's rule behind those equip names???
i'll try browse in eq shop and forum shops.. thank you so much for info.


Yeah, and you can check those available suffix in wiki.

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Equipment_Suffixes
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post Apr 7 2012, 12:12
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QUOTE(Ilirith @ Apr 6 2012, 22:24) *

well, frankly i had the same problems with mana until i reached somewhere around 900 or so mana, at which point a greater mana potion would be enough to keep me going as long i didn't spam T3 spells.

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Furthermore, i would suggest you'l get a Staff of Focus so your spells won't miss as much.
If you'd like, you can have the staff i used until recently,
Exquisite ebony staff of the fox
Although it isn't a Focus staff :3


The staff would probably be useful to me in the future. Other than the elemental damage bonus it doesn't seem to really provide much increase in stats for me. Also, why a focus staff? Isn't >90% hit chance enough?

Thanks a lot for the explanation of how fights go for you. Now I know that mages are still a decent choice. I should start investing in MP tanks I guess.

QUOTE(varst @ Apr 6 2012, 22:24) *

Not so much.

1. Fox isn't the best suit. You should have gossamer of elementalist (for elemental spells) and later, EDB phases. You may also need heaven-sent against legends.
The may choose to get a ebony/redwood staff of focus first (to improve your accuracy), and get a better destruction staff after lv. 130, when you get arcane focus.

2. Spells: You should really get weaken against bosses/train prof.. Also, your offensive spell choice is strange: it's better to utilize at least two different complement spells (like wind -> elec), so you can get the elemental explosion for extra damage. Eventually you'll need all four elemental spells plus holy at their highest tier against bosses.
If you have problems with mana and have sufficient ability points, try to pick the complement tier 1 spell.
And the most important thing: always max your AP on offensive spells till the AOE spells. You can ignore the resistance thing, but putting AP into AOE will decrease your spell cost, casting time and increase your spell's damage.

3. Primary stats looks okay. Prof. can get better, but if you're leveling so fast few things can be done on that.

At the moment the only time I get bosses is during the Ring of Blood and even there I don't have much problems. And I don't see the point in really getting multiple AoE spells - on normal/hard difficulties things die in one hit anyway. On IWBTH (I level on that) I only run a few rounds so having the AoE spell or not having the AoE spell doesn't matter much (also my levels are FILLED with Giants and Mechanoids).

But if I start having trouble I'll definitely go for a 2nd elemental spell (right now I picked the single target ones to have the ability to fight a larger amount of resistances).

The mana issue is more along the lines of doing Item Worlds - they're very long and I wanted to know about the future.

I'll keep my eye out on Elemental equips although it seems unlikely that I'll get it any time soon. I'll look into that kind of stuff some more once I stop getting >10 levels per day.

Thank you both!
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post Apr 7 2012, 12:23
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90% hit chance isn't enough. As a mage you never want your spells to miss anything.

And you may enjoy pretty much the 'easy' version of HV till lv. 100. After that monsters will get stronger, and they start to have more HP.
Also, you're going to meet a boss at the end of the lv. 100 arena. That's why you should prepare for that.

IW is still not viable to you till you reached our level. Before lv. 250 you can easily find weapon/armor replacement, and you are not strong enough to finish IW without risk.
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