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Mar 31 2012, 07:29
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etothex
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There's never too early for 2h. It has no setting up curve.
You just need to grind some prof. Once prof goes up, accuracy goes up and your domino strike chance improves as well. Things start dying a lot quicker then.
There are different types of power armor for different needs; slaughter for max damage, balance for added accuracy and crit, and protection for better mitigations. You can simply supplement a basic heavy suit w/ individual pieces to fill what you lack (and can throw in some shield armor as well)
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Mar 31 2012, 07:30
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varst
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QUOTE(Bloodmare @ Mar 31 2012, 11:33)  Does that still hold true? I have all the tier element spells, but I stuck with them for so long that my holy and dark proc are under 60 still.
It depends on the difficulty/equips you're using. At higher levels, elementals are better suited to play in lower difficulty (because it's more mana efficient), while holy/dark are better suited to play in higher difficulty (it's more powerful). QUOTE(radioactive28 @ Mar 31 2012, 12:55)  Bummer. Plus both don't seem to give very much damage mitigation, compared to regular plate.
I've got a full set of Shade that gives me 30+% mitigation, and power armor looks like a maximum of 40+% only if I get the really high quality stuff.
Or is it too early for me to start on 2H/Heavy, considering how my basic (no armor) mitigation/evade/accuracy are still low because of my level?
2-handed is known to have lower accuracy than DW. It is compensated by its ability to hit multiple enemies with one attack. (In fact it should be the other way: DW is known for its better accuracy) And I have seen people leveling with mace/scythe + heavy armor, so there should be no problem. This post has been edited by varst: Mar 31 2012, 07:32
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Mar 31 2012, 08:16
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radioactive28
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Right, I'll just try to get a few basic equipment upgrades, grind away from there and bear with the tedium.
Thanks, etothex, varst.
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Mar 31 2012, 08:22
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cheesey
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How does one do the 200+ arenas with DW? I seem to be getting overwhelmed by the number of monsters because I have to kill one at a time. Granted this may be because I only have 22 prof in DW, so maybe others just spam Frenzied Blows?
Also, since arenas have too many monsters for me right now, what's the best place to grind DW prof?
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Mar 31 2012, 08:34
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Ichy
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QUOTE(cheesey @ Mar 31 2012, 06:22)  How does one do the 200+ arenas with DW? I seem to be getting overwhelmed by the number of monsters because I have to kill one at a time. Granted this may be because I only have 22 prof in DW, so maybe others just spam Frenzied Blows?
Also, since arenas have too many monsters for me right now, what's the best place to grind DW prof?
Kill FSM on IWBTH.
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Mar 31 2012, 11:29
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etothex
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just used frenzy in a encounter; 1 mob left; it only hit 6 times? 
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Mar 31 2012, 12:15
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n125
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I hate to ask a question like this, but how much do high-end Ebony and Katalox Destruction staffs typically go for? I'm referring to the type of staff one wouldn't hesitate to use in the Forge; I'm thinking maybe within 80-95% of the maximum for the important stats (MDM, Proficiency, some EDBs, and 3 ET turns at 36-40%), or better. I need to upgrade my current pair but I don't really pay attention to WTS/B so I'm pretty oblivious to HV's economy and haven't a clue how many Credits I should aim for.
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Mar 31 2012, 12:22
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ChosenUno
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QUOTE(n125 @ Mar 31 2012, 17:15)  I hate to ask a question like this, but how much do high-end Ebony and Katalox Destruction staffs typically go for? I'm referring to the type of staff one wouldn't hesitate to use in the Forge; I'm thinking maybe within 80-95% of the maximum for the important stats (MDM, Proficiency, some EDBs, and 3 ET turns at 36-40%), or better. I need to upgrade my current pair but I don't really pay attention to WTS/B so I'm pretty oblivious to HV's economy and haven't a clue how many Credits I should aim for.
A few mils?
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Mar 31 2012, 12:40
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Hoheneim
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QUOTE(cheesey @ Mar 31 2012, 08:22)  How does one do the 200+ arenas with DW? I seem to be getting overwhelmed by the number of monsters because I have to kill one at a time. Granted this may be because I only have 22 prof in DW, so maybe others just spam Frenzied Blows?
If there's one thing you can't really do with DW, is spamming FB. It takes too damn long to set up and release and it doesn't really reward you enough for the effort of using it. If it costed less OC or if it proc'd some status on the enemies (Bleeding and PA? Bleeding and Stun?) it could be more useful, but as it is it's more a show-off move than a life-saving, tactical one. QUOTE(cheesey @ Mar 31 2012, 08:22)  Also, since arenas have too many monsters for me right now, what's the best place to grind DW prof?
The best place is an Item World of low quality on higher difficulty.
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Mar 31 2012, 13:42
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Ser6IjVolk
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QUOTE(n125 @ Mar 31 2012, 12:15)  I hate to ask a question like this, but how much do high-end Ebony and Katalox Destruction staffs typically go for? I'm referring to the type of staff one wouldn't hesitate to use in the Forge; I'm thinking maybe within 80-95% of the maximum for the important stats (MDM, Proficiency, some EDBs, and 3 ET turns at 36-40%), or better. I need to upgrade my current pair but I don't really pay attention to WTS/B so I'm pretty oblivious to HV's economy and haven't a clue how many Credits I should aim for.
Can I ask how exactly can one tell the quality of an equip beyond it's prefix? Because I've seen fine things go for millions while some magnificent stuff goes for a few thousand. My quality judgement doesn't go beyond "is it better than my current equipped piece?" and since I'm a tank, my "expertise" is limited to heavy armor and such. Also what exactly is the effect of forging? It says "adds 1% to the base stat". 1% of what?
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Mar 31 2012, 14:04
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hzqr
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QUOTE(n125 @ Mar 31 2012, 10:15)  I hate to ask a question like this, but how much do high-end Ebony and Katalox Destruction staffs typically go for? I'm referring to the type of staff one wouldn't hesitate to use in the Forge; I'm thinking maybe within 80-95% of the maximum for the important stats (MDM, Proficiency, some EDBs, and 3 ET turns at 36-40%), or better. I need to upgrade my current pair but I don't really pay attention to WTS/B so I'm pretty oblivious to HV's economy and haven't a clue how many Credits I should aim for. Define "high-end". Decent Katalox of Destruction used to sell anywhere between 200,000c and 1,500,000c. Now that Ebony and Katalox have become a thing of legend after the last patch... eh. QUOTE(Ser6IjVolk @ Mar 31 2012, 11:42)  Can I ask how exactly can one tell the quality of an equip beyond it's prefix? Because I've seen fine things go for millions while some magnificent stuff goes for a few thousand. My quality judgement doesn't go beyond "is it better than my current equipped piece?" and since I'm a tank, my "expertise" is limited to heavy armor and such. Some stats are more important than others (EDB/Evade/INT for Phase, Physical Mitigation/Burden/Interference for Kevlar, Evade/ADB/Interference for Shade, etc etc). A Crude item with good stats where it matters can easily best an Exquisite with only good stats in the wrong places. QUOTE(Ser6IjVolk @ Mar 31 2012, 11:42)  Also what exactly is the effect of forging? It says "adds 1% to the base stat". 1% of what? Of the stat itself.
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Mar 31 2012, 14:11
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cheesey
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QUOTE(Hoheneim @ Mar 31 2012, 23:40)  If there's one thing you can't really do with DW, is spamming FB. It takes too damn long to set up and release and it doesn't really reward you enough for the effort of using it. If it costed less OC or if it proc'd some status on the enemies (Bleeding and PA? Bleeding and Stun?) it could be more useful, but as it is it's more a show-off move than a life-saving, tactical one.
Doesn't it usually just kill all enemies when you use it? Why would it need to proc anything then? QUOTE(Hoheneim @ Mar 31 2012, 23:40)  The best place is an Item World of low quality on higher difficulty.
Thanks a lot. This really helps.
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Mar 31 2012, 14:17
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LangTuTaiHoa
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QUOTE(cheesey @ Mar 31 2012, 19:11)  Doesn't it usually just kill all enemies when you use it? Why would it need to proc anything then?
Not in IWBTH RoB (or general IWBTH with 5+ enemies), methinks.
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Mar 31 2012, 14:19
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Ser6IjVolk
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QUOTE((Cheater) Tiap @ Mar 31 2012, 14:04) 
Of the stat itself.
As in if the stat is 31 it'll receive a boost of 0.31? Or will it just add a permanent amplification to the stat by 1%?
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Mar 31 2012, 14:36
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radioactive28
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QUOTE(Ser6IjVolk @ Mar 31 2012, 20:19)  As in if the stat is 31 it'll receive a boost of 0.31? Or will it just add a permanent amplification to the stat by 1%?
It'll add 0.31, which is also the same as a permanent amplification of 1%, since it's the base stat that's being modified. Two upgrades will then add 0.62. Check the math out at http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Level_ScalingThis post has been edited by radioactive28: Mar 31 2012, 14:55
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Mar 31 2012, 14:42
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Ser6IjVolk
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QUOTE(radioactive28 @ Mar 31 2012, 14:36)  It'll add 0.31, which is also the same as a permanent amplification of 1%, since it's the base stat that's being modified. http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Level_ScalingExcept it isn't. A permanent amplification would mean that once this stat rises to say 40, that +1 would be adding 0.4, not staying at 0.31 forever.
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Mar 31 2012, 14:46
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radioactive28
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QUOTE(Ser6IjVolk @ Mar 31 2012, 20:42)  Except it isn't. A permanent amplification would mean that once this stat rises to say 40, that +1 would be adding 0.4, not staying at 0.31 forever.
Ah, my mistake. Wasn't taking permanent amplification to mean that. I guess it's clearer in this form? CODE scaled_stat = (1 + level / level_factor) * (1 + upgrades / 100) * base_stat
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Mar 31 2012, 14:46
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n125
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QUOTE((Cheater) Tiap @ Mar 31 2012, 05:04)  Define "high-end". Decent Katalox of Destruction used to sell anywhere between 200,000c and 1,500,000c. Now that Ebony and Katalox have become a thing of legend after the last patch... eh.
Hm; I have my sights set on a pair of Ebony and Katalox Destruction staffs with base stats in the area of +35 MDM, +5 Elemental/Divine/Forbidden, +1.0-1.2 Wind/Holy/Dark EDB, x3 ET @ 36-40% proc chance. At least. I was thinking about seeing if I could buy them for a million each and making it a goal to start saving up right now, but that is me just taking a shot in the dark their values; I have no idea if that amount would be too little or too much. And yeah, I can't remember when the last time I found a Katalox staff was; I've found maybe one or two Ebonies since the patch. I've been saving up Appendages and Saplings for when I'm higher level, but in all likelihood that will just result in the bazaar being flooded with Redwoods. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)
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