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Use either more mana elixirs or use a focus staff with 20% mana conserve or more, that is roughly 3 or more godly pots you can save.

Otherwise I would have ran out by 70 something rounds using a destruction staff or Katalox staff doing the trio. (That is roughly based on just spamming Pestilence all the way through on Normal.)

I'll do ET when I do heroic or higher.

This post has been edited by trikon000: Mar 29 2012, 08:28

Just out of curiosity, does anyone have an idea of how valuable this is? I can't decide whether to sell it off right now or to hold on and level it a bit. These are the base stats with projected exquisite maximum values in parentheses.

Exquisite Phase Pants of Fenrir
Level: 32 -> 0
Magic Accuracy Bonus: 8.85 (9.89)
Physical Absorption: 0.26 (0.58)
Physical Mitigation: 2.91 (3.13)
Magical Absorption: 0.74 (0.76)
Magical Mitigation: 4.00 (4.00)
Evade Chance: 4.97 (4.98)
Dark Damage Bonus: 4.45 (5.66)
INT: 1.09 (1.89)
WIS: 1.49 (1.89)

Strong magic accuracy and physical mitigation, maxed magical mitigation and evade, decent dark bonus, and pretty good attribute bonuses as well. I'm guessing if maging ever shifts toward more defensive gear as opposed to maxing EDB whenever possible, it'll be very nice to have.

You could probably get more out of it if you leveled it a few times, since it is only a level 32 item.

Just out of curiosity, does anyone have an idea of how valuable this is? I can't decide whether to sell it off right now or to hold on and level it a bit. These are the base stats with projected exquisite maximum values in parentheses.

Exquisite Phase Pants of Fenrir
Level: 32 -> 0
Magic Accuracy Bonus: 8.85 (9.89)
Physical Absorption: 0.26 (0.58)
Physical Mitigation: 2.91 (3.13)
Magical Absorption: 0.74 (0.76)
Magical Mitigation: 4.00 (4.00)
Evade Chance: 4.97 (4.98)
Dark Damage Bonus: 4.45 (5.66)
INT: 1.09 (1.89)
WIS: 1.49 (1.89)

Strong magic accuracy and physical mitigation, maxed magical mitigation and evade, decent dark bonus, and pretty good attribute bonuses as well. I'm guessing if maging ever shifts toward more defensive gear as opposed to maxing EDB whenever possible, it'll be very nice to have.

You should keep it until you can level it up. Otherwise just sell it.

Damn, EoD is such a pain. Even with ET I could only manage until round 76/100, which resulted in 3 trophies. Will have to retry tomorrow though. Is there any tip or advice for this?

How many time do you ET per round? If you can't get enough mana, try to ET more. If you don't have enough SP, try to bring 1 SP potion.

Just out of curiosity, does anyone have an idea of how valuable this is? I can't decide whether to sell it off right now or to hold on and level it a bit. These are the base stats with projected exquisite maximum values in parentheses.

1. The level is just too low.
2. Dark EDB's just too low.
3. Other things doesn't matter.

You may hope for a defensive shift, but IMO that just gives you fake hope.

Damn, EoD is such a pain. Even with ET I could only manage until round 76/100, which resulted in 3 trophies. Will have to retry tomorrow though. Is there any tip or advice for this?

I think your rate of levelling up has really back-fired you now, bro (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif) maybe one of the main reasons is because your proficiencies aren't sufficient to kill 'em mobs quick enough anymore. Thus you're running out of mana faster (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif)

I think the elemental gear can help save a lot of mana if it's mixed with T-1 spell (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) But then for the school girls your Divine & Forbidden prof must be high enough to finish 'em fast (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

That's why nowadays I don't do the forced-leveling anymore (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) going with a nice slow pace, training some prof and farm some credits before going off to the Giant land make life a lot easier (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif)

Just a quick question, but for Dual Wielding, is there an agreed best weapon type for the offhand? I know main hand is a club, but should the offhand be a club too or a rapier, or something else?

Damn, EoD is such a pain. Even with ET I could only manage until round 76/100, which resulted in 3 trophies. Will have to retry tomorrow though. Is there any tip or advice for this?

mastering the art of ET (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
I mostly refuel on silenced konata (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

When I did EoD, my base Divine and Forbidden proficiencies were probably between 130-140 and my Holy EDB was probably between 40-50% (my holy suit is shit). It just takes very slow and very diligent ETing. Once I got to the schoolgirls section, I had to proc CM with Magic Missile, cast Banish a few times, ET, proc CM again, and repeat. On every round after 50. I kept them under Weaken, Blind, and Nerf, so they couldn't do anything to me that Regen II didn't take care of.

All in all, it took more than an hour to complete. It definitely wasn't the funnest experience and it's not something that I'm considering doing again without a proper holy suit. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

One thing that sneaks up on you is the gradual SP drain. I went in with two Godly Spirit potions and remember having to use at least one. After that I used Soul Reaper to recover my SP.

When I did EoD, my base Divine and Forbidden proficiencies were probably between 130-140 and my Holy EDB was probably between 40-50% (my holy suit is shit). It just takes very slow and very diligent ETing. Once I got to the schoolgirls section, I had to proc CM with Magic Missile, cast Banish a few times, ET, proc CM again, and repeat. On every round after 50. I kept them under Weaken, Blind, and Nerf, so they couldn't do anything to me that Regen II didn't take care of.

All in all, it took more than an hour to complete. It definitely wasn't the funnest experience and it's not something that I'm considering doing again without a proper holy suit. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

One thing that sneaks up on you is the gradual SP drain. I went in with two Godly Spirit potions and remember having to use at least one. After that I used Soul Reaper to recover my SP.

I thought the schoolgirls hit very hard? How can Regen II by itself help?

Or did you have Spirit shield on as well?

how dangerous are minibosses compared to customs?

Havent paid much attention to them while 2handing, but grinding DW recently, I always tend to go for them first.

I think the fear of being Toddlerguro'd by mind rapers, or meh-ed or mooed has been ingrained into me from my newbie days (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I thought the schoolgirls hit very hard? How can Regen II by itself help?

Or did you have Spirit shield on as well?

Of course. Whatever Spirit Shield didn't soak up, Regen II was able to take care of most of the time, because between Blind and Shadow Veil, it was pretty uncommon for me to get hit multiple turns in a row.

I should have specified that this was on Normal, though (which is what I assume LangTuTaiHoa is attempting it on).

I can see why some people just skip doing schoolgirls at higher levels until they do it on IWBTH.

My inventory going into schoolgirls : [dl.dropbox.com] here

I went and ET every 5 or so round and definitely right before the last round.
(Playing as a mage, having Magic Missle mapped to a single keyboard key saves alot of effort, especially for proc'ing CM.)

By the last round I didn't even spend a mana/spirit pot since the start of the first schoolgirl. [dl.dropbox.com] Not too shabby, could have done better if I took my time at it.

Just beat it a few moments ago, [dl.dropbox.com] first time around.

Time for bed...its damn 3 in the morning.

This post has been edited by trikon000: Mar 29 2012, 12:01

How many time do you ET per round? If you can't get enough mana, try to ET more. If you don't have enough SP, try to bring 1 SP potion.

I didn't ET much in the first 50 rounds, mostly relied on mana powerups (they tended to drop kinda frequently that time). Starting at the schoolgirls I tried to ET as much as possible, that is, everytime they got CM proc I crushed them, and when they were not I MM them to get it to proc. I just cast offensive spells during the ET duration.

I think your rate of levelling up has really back-fired you now, bro (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif) maybe one of the main reasons is because your proficiencies aren't sufficient to kill 'em mobs quick enough anymore. Thus you're running out of mana faster (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif)

I think the elemental gear can help save a lot of mana if it's mixed with T-1 spell (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) But then for the school girls your Divine & Forbidden prof must be high enough to finish 'em fast (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

That's why nowadays I don't do the forced-leveling anymore (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) going with a nice slow pace, training some prof and farm some credits before going off to the Giant land make life a lot easier (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif)

Well that may be the case (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) , though I slowed down since lv200

I can see why some people just skip doing schoolgirls at higher levels until they do it on IWBTH.

My inventory going into schoolgirls : [dl.dropbox.com] here

I went and ET every 5 or so round and definitely right before the last round.
(Playing as a mage, having Magic Missle mapped to a single keyboard key saves alot of effort, especially for proc'ing CM.)

By the last round I didn't even spend a mana/spirit pot since the start of the first schoolgirl. [dl.dropbox.com] Not too shabby, could have done better if I took my time at it.

Just beat it a few moments ago, [dl.dropbox.com] first time around.

Time for bed...its damn 3 in the morning.

I went in with 11 godly mana and 2 godly spirit, along with shadows and swiftness scrolls. Maybe I should get a mana conservation staff and try again. What holy and dark spells were you using? I rotate between banish and pestilence, sometimes ragnarok if the chance is right, and they did burn mana very fast.

how dangerous are minibosses compared to customs?

Havent paid much attention to them while 2handing, but grinding DW recently, I always tend to go for them first.

I think the fear of being Toddlerguro'd by mind rapers, or meh-ed or mooed has been ingrained into me from my newbie days tongue.gif

At your level, maybe the minibosses, I dunno. But at level 200+, the stronger custom monsters are pretty annoying and are probably at the same level or better.

Also repeating my question:

Just a quick question, but for Dual Wielding, is there an agreed best weapon type for the offhand? I know main hand is a club, but should the offhand be a club too or a rapier, or something else?

And another: what is the best way to grind DW proficiency? Grindfest? Though it seems the most stamina-efficient way is to do a ROB challenge...

I didn't ET much in the first 50 rounds, mostly relied on mana powerups (they tended to drop kinda frequently that time). Starting at the schoolgirls I tried to ET as much as possible, that is, everytime they got CM proc I crushed them, and when they were not I MM them to get it to proc. I just cast offensive spells during the ET duration.

Mind describing the whole process of how you fight each round?

Just a quick question, but for Dual Wielding, is there an agreed best weapon type for the offhand? I know main hand is a club, but should the offhand be a club too or a rapier, or something else?

There's no definite answer. It all depends on your level/equips.
Rapier and sword chuck definitely have their advantages, while club and dagger serve for specific purposes.
You can also use axe in your mainhand now.

This post has been edited by varst: Mar 29 2012, 13:05

Mind describing the whole process of how you fight each round?

For the first 50 rounds:
I start off a round with pestilence to reduce their damage and finish off ~50% of monster
If the remaining all have high HP, I follow with Banish and 99% they will all die.
Else, I follow with tier 2 fire (meteor)
If they are not all dead, and the one remaining has low HP, I finish it off with MM.
If it has high HP, I ET it until it dies.
Refresh arcane focus, regen2 and spark of life when occasional channelings occur.

For the schoolgirls rounds:
I finish off weaker mobs with pestilence and banish
Keep MM-ing the schoolgirl to proc CM
Keep hitting CM to proc ET
When ET is happening, attack with offensive spells (hurricane for konata, banish/holy for others)

I think I was ET ineffectively in the first 50 rounds, since I just finished a 50 round normal crysfest with no mana pot needed. Feels like discovering something new (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I used to ET until round 75-80 and then just spam away until the end (normal status).
Now that difficulty has a larger effect on loot quality doing that can cost you quite a few godly pots.
Looks like Tenboro's cunning plan of robbing us of our pots is working beautifully.
Poop.

I guess I have to get Tenboro laid for the SUDDEN spec balance change.
*feasts on mage's tears*.
Ohai, Hito! <3

For the first 50 rounds:
I start off a round with pestilence to reduce their damage and finish off ~50% of monster
If the remaining all have high HP, I follow with Banish and 99% they will all die.
Else, I follow with tier 2 fire (meteor)
If they are not all dead, and the one remaining has low HP, I finish it off with MM.
If it has high HP, I ET it until it dies.
Refresh arcane focus, regen2 and spark of life when occasional channelings occur.

For the schoolgirls rounds:
I finish off weaker mobs with pestilence and banish
Keep MM-ing the schoolgirl to proc CM
Keep hitting CM to proc ET
When ET is happening, attack with offensive spells (hurricane for konata, banish/holy for others)

I think I was ET ineffectively in the first 50 rounds, since I just finished a 50 round normal crysfest with no mana pot needed. Feels like discovering something new (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

1. Tried using MM to proc CM again after ET procs? This should save you some mana.
2. If your equips set is correct (mix holy/dark), it may be a better choice to alternate between holy and dark spells. The ultimate method to save mana is , of course, to kill everything as fast as you can.
3. Any depreciating spells on legends? Nerf can help you if you need more than 4 spells to kill a legend.
4. Round-opening spell: try using purge -> pestilence on MM-ed monster?
Or a riskier method: MM on legend then purge?