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post Mar 25 2012, 08:29
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QUOTE(ChosenUno @ Mar 25 2012, 01:55) *

Check it here: http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Equipment_Ranges#Hands_7

It seems to be a darn good piece.


Glad to see my page get linked twice in a short period of time (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

But I agree with 4EverLost, would be better if it was Power (or Shield)
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post Mar 25 2012, 08:46
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QUOTE(skillchip @ Mar 25 2012, 13:29) *

Glad to see my page get linked twice in a short period of time (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

But I agree with 4EverLost, would be better if it was Power (or Shield)


Of course. It would be better if it was legendary too (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif). Wish I get that kind of drops (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Mar 25 2012, 09:15
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QUOTE(LangTuTaiHoa @ Mar 24 2012, 22:06) *

For the guys who cleared EoD or higher: are those 50+ schoolgirl trophies per arena clear worth it? Is there a good chance of getting ethereals?


I actually believe that you don't automatically get trophies from boss+ monsters unless they're in the final round of arenas. There may be something like a 10% chance for all the other rounds.
I'm not exactly sure on this though (and a little tired too tired to look back to find where I read that), could someone who has those arenas verify?
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post Mar 25 2012, 09:48
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QUOTE(Mr. Plow @ Mar 25 2012, 07:15) *

I actually believe that you don't automatically get trophies from boss+ monsters unless they're in the final round of arenas. There may be something like a 10% chance for all the other rounds.
I'm not exactly sure on this though (and a little tired too tired to look back to find where I read that), could someone who has those arenas verify?


at one time it was 100% and at that time only about 3-5 people were able to do those arenas. Now its 10% with 100% in the final round.

And it can still be worth it if you can clear them fast. If the trophies only give you junk you can still sell it for a few credits, some of the better items sell for 4-7k to the bazaar.
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post Mar 25 2012, 10:35
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QUOTE(cyberwaveIT @ Mar 25 2012, 00:22) *

Thanks guys, I just started training the last Refined Aura Slot - 100K in / 100K out. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


IMO, right now those are wasted credits. I'd cancel that training right away.

You're better off investing those in "drop" trainings, as dc suggested, or in better gear from sales/auctions and the like.

I'd go with the second option, personally. Then again, if you ask me the answer is always "loot, loot, loot".
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post Mar 25 2012, 10:49
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And it can still be worth it if you can clear them fast. If the trophies only give you junk you can still sell it for a few credits, some of the better items sell for 4-7k to the bazaar.


Since you've tried both melee and mageing, is it reasonably possible to clear the schoolgirl arenas fast with melee? If so, with what kind of weapon?
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post Mar 25 2012, 11:10
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QUOTE(4EverLost @ Mar 25 2012, 14:48) *

at one time it was 100% and at that time only about 3-5 people were able to do those arenas. Now its 10% with 100% in the final round.

And it can still be worth it if you can clear them fast. If the trophies only give you junk you can still sell it for a few credits, some of the better items sell for 4-7k to the bazaar.


That makes sense now, 50+ trophies per arena sounds somehow ridiculous (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) .
But I still want it like that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) ...
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post Mar 25 2012, 11:35
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Why are there so many pages once I'm take a break? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

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QUOTE(cheesey @ Mar 25 2012, 10:05) *

Okay, so I just barely lived through End of Days on Normal with an Ethereal Mace. Can any melee players actually farm these arenas on a daily basis on a difficulty higher than Normal or is that mages only? Or is it because the mace is not a very good weapon choice for schoolgirls?


It doesn't matter how good your weapon is, 2H is terrible at schoolgirls arenas.

I use DW + SP stance + Normal attack (mostly) + Great status and playing at Normal diff for schoolgirls arenas. It's rather easy.
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post Mar 25 2012, 12:11
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QUOTE(cheesey @ Mar 25 2012, 08:49) *

Since you've tried both melee and mageing, is it reasonably possible to clear the schoolgirl arenas fast with melee? If so, with what kind of weapon?


I wouldn't do them as melee unless I just wanted to grind DW proficiency. When I do them its on Hard with normal stamina with holy gear.


QUOTE(LangTuTaiHoa @ Mar 25 2012, 09:10) *

That makes sense now, 50+ trophies per arena sounds somehow ridiculous (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) .
But I still want it like that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) ...


those arenas use to be 300,400,500 rounds and using soul damage was faster then holy. The time it took was worth the drops. But now I think the drop rate should change with the Difficulty. If you do them on IWBTH 90% would be nice. But then everyone would be doing them, even if they can't get to the end.
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post Mar 25 2012, 12:21
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When referring to the Equip_Range stats, which particular column do we base ours against - Base Roll or Derived Base. I've attached a snapshot. I had the lv141 drop just now from a random/IWTBH, & the lv160 was picked up from the bazaar shortly after. I've always been a bit lost when it comes to this.
Does the presented 2 axes change any of the current range stats?

(IMG:[i1232.photobucket.com] http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff365/cyberwaveIT/Equip_Range-Axe.png)

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post Mar 25 2012, 12:24
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Derived Base.
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post Mar 25 2012, 12:30
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QUOTE((Cheater) Tiap @ Mar 25 2012, 18:24) *

Derived Base.


So, I can submit the lv160 axe for new max weapon damage & max burden?

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post Mar 25 2012, 12:43
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I think skillchip already has the data, he just hasn't got around to updating the wiki yet.
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post Mar 25 2012, 12:47
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QUOTE((Cheater) Tiap @ Mar 25 2012, 18:43) *

I think skillchip already has the data, he just hasn't got around to updating the wiki yet.

Thanks, I can now use the axes for chopping wood, DW style. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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post Mar 25 2012, 14:20
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I'm having these 2 katalox staffs:
Fenrir staff
Destruction staff

When using fenrir staff (all other pieces are the same)
Magical Attack 828.9 base
Intelligence 298
Wisdom 281
Holy EDB 76.0 %
Dark EDB 65.8 %
Divine prof 99.80
Forbidden prof 94.50

When using destruction staff
Magical Attack 915.4 base
Intelligence 295
Wisdom 279
Holy EDB 72.7 %
Dark EDB 40.7 %
Divine 93.20
Forbidden 87.90

Basically the destruction one seems worse in every aspect except for better magical base damage. So which one is better at actual spell damage? I'm not talking about accuracy or ET, just pure magical damage. Can't really compare in actual combats, because of different monsters each time

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post Mar 25 2012, 14:24
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I'm planning to buy a new staff, and I'm a little unsure about which stat I should priotize, should it be magic damage, elemental proficiency, or magic crit?
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post Mar 25 2012, 14:57
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QUOTE(LangTuTaiHoa @ Mar 25 2012, 19:20) *

Basically the destruction one seems worse in every aspect except for better magical base damage. So which one is better at actual spell damage? I'm not talking about accuracy or ET, just pure magical damage. Can't really compare in actual combats, because of different monsters each time

that's what RoB for (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Mar 25 2012, 15:05
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QUOTE(aiwotorimodose @ Mar 25 2012, 19:57) *

that's what RoB for (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)


Well I already thought of that, but 2 blood tokens just to compare 2 staffs? I don't even have enough for FSM farming (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Mar 25 2012, 15:15
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There's Trio too.
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post Mar 25 2012, 15:41
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So when I'm out for 24 hours, there are 3 new pages....sounds great!

So....my opinion on refined aura changed a bit since the last patch.
With the experience everyone's gaining now, I don't think there's a great need to use auras as an important EXP bonus source. Therefore you can delay that till later (when you can gain credits faster).

As for caparison between drop chance and item slot....hard to say. The best way to say is to get a balance between those two trainings, but it's hell hard to do.
The better way is to keep them balanced in terms of credits, but if you still feel that it's too difficult to understand, then train item slot first because it's easier to finish all 5 levels.
Also, trainings into drop chance sometimes takes like forever to recover.

And sorry about not being able to update HV advices promptly. Sometimes I need some new ideas, but most of the time I'm just too lazy.

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