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post Mar 21 2012, 20:07
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What is the preferred setup to take on IPU?
Any special preps required? What do I need to bring along?

These are what I have for my kit.
Light - Shade (Arcanist)
Heavy - Power / Shield (Protection)
2H - Eth Scythe (Balance) / Sup Mace (Slaughter)
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post Mar 21 2012, 20:25
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I would say silence + heavy armor + slaughter mace + dark infusion should be okay combination.
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post Mar 21 2012, 20:27
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QUOTE(varst @ Mar 22 2012, 02:25) *

I would say silence + heavy armor + slaughter mace + dark infusion should be okay combination.


Any particular heavy I should use? - Power or Shield?

I intend to try IPU later on.
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post Mar 21 2012, 21:00
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What about thrice blessed? I think that is better than protection for ipu. Otherwise, you either go more attack or more defense. (until I'm a higher level, I like the more defense because spark triggers less often, which means I don't have to sacrifice mana potions for spirit potions).

Also, I read earlier about lower levels and difficulty maging. I think its difficult to mage at lower levels because you don't have spark of life. Your defense is craptastic and scrolls of life can be expensive over time.

Of course the abilitys is kind of a problem too. But as varst said, something can be done about it. Though only thing I don't agree with on that though is getting the mana tanks. I think any play style its always good to max those out. Even though potions only heal for base, it leaves room so there is no overflow, and it is kind of nice having that extra mana at the beginning of rounds.
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post Mar 21 2012, 21:05
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don't think it'll really matter. i should note that if you follow varst's suggestion of mace + infusion you'll probably want to maximize your damage (speeds up the fight). the only thing you have to look out for is IPU's normal attacks thanks to silence but even those can hurt like a bitch at your level

easiest way to kill IPU imo = protection/SV/regen/thriced blessed gear/max bleed axe (main)/max stun club(off)/silence

both weapons of illithid. if you have protection/SV on IA you'll only ever have to hold down numpad 1 and cast silence/regen from time to time

edit: damn got ninja-ed by smile. the above post is reply to cyberwave

i will admit that i prioritize mana tanks as well though. but AP really isn't an issue. it never was. just need a little foresight and a good questioning of "am i really going to use this?". i fought IPU without thrice blessed gear as a mage back before i had spirit shield. was a complete bitch... spent more time soul reaping to fuel my spark than i did casting dark spells on it. (didn't have silence back then)

tl;dr

there are tons of ways to kill IPU. as long as you have silence on it, it'll be pretty easy - just long. your imagination is the limit

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post Mar 21 2012, 21:23
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Cool, I actually ninja'd some one :-D.

My first time fighting ipu on normal, I either wasn't equipped right or the difficulty was still on heroic/nightmare. Maybe both. So I got my arse handed to me.

But when I did finally get my potions right, well more like actually have the infusion there, I just went at it dw-ing. Didn't have thrice blessed armor at the time, or atleast not a full set. Didn't have silence at the time either. Grabbed a couple of scrolls of life as a just incase but I don't think I used them. I remember thinking real life was harder than this.

Ap isn't really an issue for me either. Right now, for the last 10 levels before a new tier, I look it up in the wiki and just see what I need. Save that amount and I'm good.

When I was melee, I was pretty much preparing to mage so I trained the suggested amount. My abilities went to mana/health thanks, the 2 right columns, and just a couple of supportive and deprecating spells. So didn't have any problems there either.
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post Mar 21 2012, 21:27
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QUOTE(dcherry @ Mar 22 2012, 03:05) *

don't think it'll really matter. i should note that if you follow varst's suggestion of mace + infusion you'll probably want to maximize your damage (speeds up the fight). the only thing you have to look out for is IPU's normal attacks thanks to silence but even those can hurt like a bitch at your level

easiest way to kill IPU imo = protection/SV/regen/thriced blessed gear/max bleed axe (main)/max stun club(off)/silence

both weapons of illithid. if you have protection/SV on IA you'll only ever have to hold down numpad 1 and cast silence/regen from time to time

edit: damn got ninja-ed by smile. the above post is reply to cyberwave

i will admit that i prioritize mana tanks as well though. but AP really isn't an issue. it never was. just need a little foresight and a good questioning of "am i really going to use this?". i fought IPU without thrice blessed gear as a mage back before i had spirit shield. was a complete bitch... spent more time soul reaping to fuel my spark than i did casting dark spells on it. (didn't have silence back then)

tl;dr

there are tons of ways to kill IPU. as long as you have silence on it, it'll be pretty easy - just long. your imagination is the limit


I'm off to fight the IPU...armed with my power suit & my trusty mace, with the necessary dark infusions.
If only I could enlist the 4 horsemen's help (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Mar 21 2012, 21:28
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@varst recommended transition to mage should still be at the level Arcane Focus kicks in IMO (simplest)

especially thanks to T's HP grace for low level monsters, bleed weapons tear normal mobs apart nice and easily at the low level ranges. (it still does for me right now)

e: @cyberwave make sure to bring lots of mana pots

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post Mar 21 2012, 21:33
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QUOTE(cyberwaveIT @ Mar 22 2012, 02:27) *

Any particular heavy I should use? - Power or Shield?

I intend to try IPU later on.


Well....I would say your normal shield/power is good enough if you keep your HP at comfortable level, which can easily be determined when you observe how much HP you're losing in the first few turns.

However, you can increase your success rate/make the whole thing faster by:
1. choosing elemental-mitigation armor.
2. using DW with club of slaughter + rapier with good PA chance and duration.
3. using SV/haste

That's not a must though. Gods are not that difficult to kill now. It may just be long as hell.
I've seen people succeeding to kill FSM and IPU with 2-handed + infusion, so that won't be a problem.

QUOTE(smilejb @ Mar 22 2012, 03:00) *

Of course the abilitys is kind of a problem too. But as varst said, something can be done about it. Though only thing I don't agree with on that though is getting the mana tanks. I think any play style its always good to max those out. Even though potions only heal for base, it leaves room so there is no overflow, and it is kind of nice having that extra mana at the beginning of rounds.


There's some controversy over mana tanks, as I've said before. Some said maxing them, some said ignore them. Since both sides have their appropriate reasons, I would just say 'take a few and determine yourself if it suits your style'. Because I'm too lazy to type those reasons (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Mar 21 2012, 22:03
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I just discovered a stupid mistake only after entering the fight with IPU.
Here I'm wondering, why wasn't I putting a dent in IPU.............
I forgot to set back the difficulty back from BT to normal! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Just wasted 3 blood tokens, 4 godly manas, 1 godly spirit, 2 dark infusions, 2x scrolls of life/swiftness/shadows... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Will try again after the new dawn. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)



QUOTE(varst @ Mar 22 2012, 04:11) *

Note: Remember to remind every god-challenger to check the god-damn difficulty setting.
It has passed 'inappropriate equips' as the major cause of death now. Seriously.

If only your reminder came earlier. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

I'm off to zombie-land... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

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post Mar 21 2012, 22:11
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Note: Remember to remind every god-challenger to check the god-damn difficulty setting.
It has passed 'inappropriate equips' as the major cause of death now. Seriously.

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post Mar 21 2012, 22:19
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QUOTE(varst @ Mar 21 2012, 14:11) *

Note: Remember to remind every god-challenger to check the god-damn difficulty setting.
It has passed 'inappropriate equips' as the major cause of death now. Seriously.


would it be a decent idea to implement a "glossary" in the wiki? to show what acronyms mean what?

likewise, maybe a ring of blood section to help guide people through their first god fights?
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post Mar 21 2012, 22:33
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There's Acronyms in wiki, unless I misunderstand your idea.

RoB section....maybe with more explanations, but giving too many suggestions may spoil the fun (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
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post Mar 21 2012, 22:51
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QUOTE(varst @ Mar 21 2012, 14:33) *

There's Acronyms in wiki, unless I misunderstand your idea.

RoB section....maybe with more explanations, but giving too many suggestions may spoil the fun (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)


Acronyms was exactly what I was looking for. forgot to check acronyms and just looked for "glossary" T_T

that needs to be linked in the newbie/faq part or something so that new players can grasp the lingo quickly IMO (took me a good 1 day of trolling to figure most of them out when i started here)

well, it's either spoiling it here in the ask the expert thread or in the wiki. i'd much rather do the wiki in that case. we basically spoonfed cyber the way to kill a god, TBH. i won't judge and say anything is wrong with it, but if the solutions provided are basically on the level of "do this, do that", i would just plug that into the wiki and save us some time
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post Mar 21 2012, 23:36
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History has shown that noobs barely ever check the wiki.

Still, its like when some one buys a walkthrough with a game. They just want to make it easy to beat the game and find everything. It maybe frowned upon but its still okay. After all, I laugh since all that information is on the net anyway for free.
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post Mar 21 2012, 23:45
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Wow, this has been a great week. I got 3 Artifact drops with 4 points in Archaelogist and 18 in Scavenger and each Artifact gave me stats.

Do my chances rise more significantly if I put more training into Archaelogist or Scavenger now?
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post Mar 21 2012, 23:56
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QUOTE(wrinty @ Mar 21 2012, 23:45) *

Wow, this has been a great week. I got 3 Artifact drops with 4 points in Archaelogist and 18 in Scavenger and each Artifact gave me stats.

Do my chances rise more significantly if I put more training into Archaelogist or Scavenger now?


for archaeologist
theorically yes practically no
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post Mar 22 2012, 00:55
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Also, a quick question. Where do most people go when hunting for better equips? High difficulty IW, Arena, Arena of Blood, Grindfest or Hourly Randoms? Do any of them have significantly higher drop chances or qualities?
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QUOTE(wrinty @ Mar 22 2012, 05:55) *

Also, a quick question. Where do most people go when hunting for better equips? High difficulty IW, Arena, Arena of Blood, Grindfest or Hourly Randoms? Do any of them have significantly higher drop chances or qualities?


Hourlies for good equips, since you can clear it on IWBTH pretty easily.

Otherwise, it's mainly arena drops for me. RoB never gives me shit.

As for people trying to kill gods, I suggest DW clubs, with eth MH if possible. Otherwise just use infusion. It's brainless as hell, but hey, it fits my avatar.
I can kill FSU with my holy/dark set now, so maybe I should sell off my sup. eth. mace. Hmmm.

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post Mar 22 2012, 02:10
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Where do most people I go when hunting for better equips?


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