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Eventually you'll know how to ET efficiently.
It's like 'magic missile' -> "RRRRRRRR' -> hit with staff -> 'clickclickclick' -> 'magic missile' -> 'RRRRRRR'
Something like that. If you can press the R button fast enough it won't be a problem (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Arrgh... why was I so dumb... it's just as easy as that. This "art" is so intricate and complex that I wasn't able to think straight. So it's even more boring than I think (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

you can do the schoolgirls without ET, but when you do them on higher settings you'll need to. When I do them on hard with normal stamina I use ET but I never cast MM when I do it.

If you don't cast MM to ET then which spell do you use then?

Hi all

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I'm a level 40 wizard, saved up my points for the last 10 levels ready to ask in here for advice.

What should I aim for with anything really (stats, equipment, abilities, auras etc) as a pure mage in order to hold my own and win handily against anything the game will throw at me? I'm looking to min/max, long term rewards over short term gains etc I don't mind being weak now as long as it pays off in the end.

My secondary goal is to train a super monster, I'm doing a giant and am currently looking to wipe out his electric and wind weaknesses while raising just str, dex and end with maybe a little agility since I'm assuming all that is a good idea. Is there any very good way to get crystals? So far he's like an incredibly high maintainance GF sucking me dry of all my credits when I try to buy the needed crystals from the shop.

Also, what should I be looking to train whenever I'm not so dirt poor? I'm just currently training the item drop skills to 10/5/4/2 as funding will permit and doing extra levels of adept learner whenever I'm too poor for that. Speaking of, the only way (other than the arena once per day) that I know of to make money is the grindfest. Is there anything else?

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Forgot to ask about that, I've no idea if void is worthwhile on a staff or not at all, since my battle strategy boils down to "cast AOE magic until they fall down", since I don't know how I should really be playing a mage in this game <.<

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The control is the easiest part in the whole process. Choosing which and when to ET is the part where things get interesting.

In high difficulty I rarely goes for ET. The damage received means you're not going to get much from ET.
Rarely goes for ET in EOD because I want the whole thing to go faster.
Rarely goes for ET in IWs because it makes IW even more boring.
So....when I am going to ET? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

This post has been edited by varst: Mar 19 2012, 15:38

Hi all

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I'm a level 40 wizard, saved up my points for the last 10 levels ready to ask in here for advice.

What should I aim for with anything really (stats, equipment, abilities, auras etc) as a pure mage in order to hold my own and win handily against anything the game will throw at me? I'm looking to min/max, long term rewards over short term gains etc I don't mind being weak now as long as it pays off in the end.

My secondary goal is to train a super monster, I'm doing a giant and am currently looking to wipe out his electric and wind weaknesses while raising just str, dex and end with maybe a little agility since I'm assuming all that is a good idea. Is there any very good way to get crystals? So far he's like an incredibly high maintainance GF sucking me dry of all my credits when I try to buy the needed crystals from the shop.

Also, what should I be looking to train whenever I'm not so dirt poor? I'm just currently training the item drop skills to 10/5/4/2 as funding will permit and doing extra levels of adept learner whenever I'm too poor for that. Speaking of, the only way (other than the arena once per day) that I know of to make money is the grindfest. Is there anything else?

Double-post to separate shit talking from serious advices.

1. Keep all your stats at least 80% of your level. You're not going to get much more EXP for other stats below 80%.
Also, use more depre/supporting spells as your mana permits.

2. Pick HP tanks as your primary focus. Then max necessary offensive spells. Then pick supportive/depreciating/curative spells.
Finally, if you still have AP, take EXP/MP tanks.
If you have insufficient AP, train ability boost till 40-50/100.
As for which spells to pick, take a look at the recent posts in this thread. we always talked about that, so that won't be difficult to find. (yea I'm finally too bored to type that again (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) )

3. Equipments: pick elementalist clothes/ebony staff of focus at your level. After lv. 130/150, you may change to phases with EDB bonus and destruction staffs. You can choose to focus on elementals or holy/dark at that time.

4. Stop focusing at monster-making. You're wasting your credits to buy crystals at your level instead of getting better equips.
The best chance is to level up and get better equipments. You can focus on your monster later, when you have more resources.
As for monster-making, currently it's the best to raise the stat equally.

5. Credits. You can get more credits from arenas. But the best way to get credits is to raise levels gradually and unlock more arenas. That would become one of your best credit source.

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Forgot to ask about that, I've no idea if void is worthwhile on a staff or not at all, since my battle strategy boils down to "cast AOE magic until they fall down", since I don't know how I should really be playing a mage in this game <.<

Ethereal staff isn't that useful for mages. We already have buren/intereference free phases, so burden from staff is acceptable. It's unlike those melees who always have to worry about B/I.
And your strategy is correct. Mages = nuke all the things.

This post has been edited by varst: Mar 19 2012, 16:28

As for which spells to pick, take a look at the recent posts in this thread. we always talked about that, so that won't be difficult to find. (yea I'm finally too bored to type that again (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) )

Oh, varst... you're such a lazy-ass. No pun intended.

@KCzz15: I suggest you take Wind and Elec spells. That's all. For credits farming, when you've done all of the arena, go Grindfest. There's no other way, amigo...

The control is the easiest part in the whole process. Choosing which and when to ET is the part where things get interesting.
In high difficulty I rarely goes for ET. The damage received means you're not going to get much from ET.
Rarely goes for ET in EOD because I want the whole thing to go faster.
Rarely goes for ET in IWs because it makes IW even more boring.
So....when I am going to ET? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

When you do all of the arenas on BT/IWBTH like a boss? So you can do 200 rounds on IW without using ET? Hmm... I think at 100 rounds our mana is completely drained?

P.S: You seem to be having some trouble with your shop over there (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

I've been meaning to ask this for sometime now, since I started mageing.
Are the following 2 ethereal staffs worth the time & effort to level up?

Fine Ethereal Katalox Staff of Focus
Fine Ethereal Katalox Staff of Heimdall

With my current skills & level, I still occasionally faced difficulties doing the long runs (Endgame/Twisted Plots) on normal, let alone any higher levels. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Are the following 2 ethereal staffs worth the time & effort to level up?

I'd lean toward no, the non-burden extra is less worthy than the loss in potential damage.

Is absorb worth the points for a melee?

Is absorb worth the points for a melee?

No.

igo...
When you do all of the arenas on BT/IWBTH like a boss? So you can do 200 rounds on IW without using ET? Hmm... I think at 100 rounds our mana is completely drained?

P.S: You seem to be having some trouble with your shop over there (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

I'm doing x8 difficulty with great stamina and x6 difficulty with normal stamina. Appropriate level where my spells can kill things in 2-3 hits.
And I'm doing 200 rounds on IW with holy spells on x1 difficulty. Not sure if it works for everyone, but I need around 10-12 superior mana/godly mana potions. If I use ET I may save some mana, but that will lengthen the whole IW process.

And problem solved. We only have some misunderstanding.

Is absorb worth the points for a melee?

No. Absorb is a spell you want to use with spare chanelling chance.

No. Absorb is a spell you want to use with spare chanelling chance.

But... How do you cast it, even if it's free, when it doesn't even 'worth the points' from the beginning?






PS. When was the last time I posted something useful in this thread again...? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Does EDB affect the damage Spike Shields do? I know the wiki says that they reflect 10% of physical damage, which is modified by proficiency, but I just want to make sure. I was thinking that even a small amount of damage (500-2000) might be nice for low difficulty IWs or something.

No. Absorb is a spell you want to use with spare chanelling chance.

...

That's actually a good idea. Free MP is free MP, but how much does Absorb tend return when it activates, anyway?

When you were still below 100 and didn't have your soul sucked out by the ponies probably.

Are the spikes worth casting at all? I mean i guess for prof it might be. And they are pretty cheap to cast by comparison. Not expecting the damage to be that great or anything either.

If anything, it might be useful like using complimenting spells are. but thats a meh too since if your doing elemental rotations, your going to cast first before they get hit with anything, and rotate based on that first cast.

As far as absorb goes, i think its only useful with channeling and at higher levels. You know, where the mobs have more hp and are more likely to use their magic attacks that are mostly physical anyway? yea...

spikes just give you a passive attack. I tried using the lightning one for an arena and didn't notice it going off alot, so I have to consider it as as good as casting the protection spell, not effective for when you mage.

didn't think so. I still have it though so I cast it when I have a spare channeling and all my buffs durration is pretty high anyway.

Didn't know it gave the 10% damage reduction thought. Thats not too terrible. and is it the supportive or elemental prof that increases its damage on critters?

I've been meaning to ask this for sometime now, since I started mageing.
Are the following 2 ethereal staffs worth the time & effort to level up?

Fine Ethereal Katalox Staff of Focus
Fine Ethereal Katalox Staff of Heimdall

With my current skills & level, I still occasionally faced difficulties doing the long runs (Endgame/Twisted Plots) on normal, let alone any higher levels. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

You won't need Focus after 130, and the EDB of the other one is not stellar enough to warrant wasting time in IW (5.88 base, max is ≥7.39)
Besides, you can still get a pretty good evade with a non-Ethereal staff

Oh well... I might just try it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

....

I'm currently wielding a 2 hand fighter char (basically I-want-to-be-that-Guts, slaughtering monsters from left to right only using my sword).

What 2H weapon do you guys recommend I'd buy at my current Henjutsu Level? If you guys could redirect me to a decent one I'd be thankful. Credits are pretty much unlimited atm.

I would like to give you a more 'in-depth' recommendation, but you'll need to describe your playing habit (ex: I played over 9000 round per day, I don't play at high difficulty-- take too much time, etc), your preference (ex: I like using skill, I don't want to take risk, I like turtles, etc), your direction you want to go (I will play til I reach lv 999, I want to be invincible, etc), plus any other info you can share with a fair amount of details, otherwise the only suggest I could make is a very generic one... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

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That's actually a good idea. Free MP is free MP

IMO it would be more beneficial to just cast anything else. Because: ...

but how much does Absorb tend return when it activates, anyway?

It won't... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ... Even if you're lucky enough to be in such situation that it actually activates, not much mana is gained from it.

spikes give you Supportive prof.

I'll try using it again at a higher difficulty than normal/hard.

This post has been edited by trikon000: Mar 19 2012, 21:27

Does EDB affect the damage Spike Shields do? I know the wiki says that they reflect 10% of physical damage, which is modified by proficiency, but I just want to make sure. I was thinking that even a small amount of damage (500-2000) might be nice for low difficulty IWs or something.
...

That's actually a good idea. Free MP is free MP, but how much does Absorb tend return when it activates, anyway?

Spike shield, IMO, is only good for grinding prof. The problem is that it can never kill something.
If you have some spare chanelling chance, casting supportive spells may be a better idea.

And absorb is okay after you've taken other necessary spells. Don't take it when you haven't filled up all your tanks though, as they are more beneficial than the spell.

otherwise the only suggest I could make is a very generic one... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

A generic one is sometimes better than a suited one. I expect people to make better choices after they've more experience in HV.
Most of the people are not so hardcore; they only have some leisure time to spend on HV, so giving too detailed information may scare them off (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
(Just sneak in more information so they'll eventually become addicted) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

This post has been edited by varst: Mar 19 2012, 21:40