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those are the 2 combinations I would suggest. lightning first to decrease their evasion then fire for the splosion. or wind so they can miss more often (plus giants and dragons are weak against it I believe), and then lightning for the splosion.

my main killer...

So wind+lightning is it?

Nah, they wouldn't cost me anything, I'm only saving up stuff my "monsters" bring me, I don't buy loot from other players. I only bought a few Negation/Raccoon Bindings from the Bazaar a few weeks ago and that was it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

And I haven't seen your gear but I get your point. I guess I can wait another 10 levels or so, and if Superior Shade is all I still have by then, I'll just upgrade it with whatever loot I have and be done with that. I suppose it won't hurt to waste that loot now. If I ever get a Magnificent Shade I'll definitely be level 400+, which means I'll have stocked up a lot more loot by then. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Don't get me wrong; I didn't upgrade my armor not because it is 'wasteful' to upgrade my non-legendary armor; hell, when it come to material, my frugalness could only be match by the current US Government! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

It's mainly from 2 reasons-- 1) I just didn't have the special material! 2) I'm not in need for those stats that could only be gain from upgrading armor; when using scythe, I'm fine with my current kevlar+shade, plus I have that eth mace... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

So, if you have some spare Shade Fragment to throw around, why not? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


BTW, my shade: hand, body (the upgrades were just a test I did a long time ago)

This post has been edited by buktore: Mar 18 2012, 05:45

my main killer...

So wind+lightning is it?

I would suggest getting whatever combo that fits your credit budget. Wind+lightning is a popular combo, so there may be a lot of competition for such phase pieces.

I'm running Cold now, and I can still 1 shot often. Not all the time, of course. Too many lolgiants and mechlols.

I would suggest getting whatever combo that fits your credit budget. Wind+lightning is a popular combo, so there may be a lot of competition for such phase pieces.

I'm running Cold now, and I can still 1 shot often. Not all the time, of course. Too many lolgiants and mechlols.

I appreciate the advice. But, at the moment I haven't even completed a Gossammer set, lest a phase one. I figure by the time I need phase, (~lv 120?), I probably have already switched to something simpler, like Dark+Holy+1 element. Still, for your level, why aren't you going the Holy+Dark route, but an elemental route? I'm curious.

And next question, does difficulty setting affect my arena's prize bonus?

This post has been edited by holy_demon: Mar 18 2012, 05:11

changing the difficulty increase the drop quality, credits and exp you get under the current patch.

Early holy/dark choice is for ending the last round in the arena or ROB as fast as possible, it is slower and more mana intensive at first but worth the cost later on when you get a phase set. Doing the elemental route first are those that plan to farm a lot later on either in CF/IW/GF.

It is mostly what do you see yourself doing after level 200/250/300 respectively.

This post has been edited by trikon000: Mar 18 2012, 07:00

Holy/Dark is useful on high difficulties because it takes a lot of the guess work out of deciding which spells to cast; except for Elementals, enemies are weak either Holy or Dark, or are neutral to one or both. With being dedicated to one Element, it's not too uncommon to find yourself in rounds where you don't have anything effective to use, and you don't really want to be in that situation on IWBTH. You also don't really want to be doing a schoolgirl marathon without a Holy suit. The downside is that Holy and Dark spells cost considerably more MP to cast. Elemental spells are useful on lower difficulties, especially in long GFs/CFs/IWs. Eventually you'll want to get a Phase suit of both so you can be more flexible.

At lower levels I'd just recommend getting an Elementalist set so you can use whatever elemental spells are necessary in the round. You have no idea what the monster landscape will look like in the levels ahead, nor will you know how it will evolve, so if you invest in a Phase suit now, it might not be as useful 30 levels later. I stuck with Elementalist armor until about 220, where I was forced to switch to Phase due to a recent patch changing how burden affects Evade Chance. Elementalist was fine up to that point (I stuck to <Nightmare, however) but I was planning on switching to Phase sooner than later anyway.

This post has been edited by n125: Mar 18 2012, 08:34

I don't think a phase wind set would be too expensive. Your not the only one doing cold but I haven't seen too much back and forth in auctions over a wind phase like I have for mjolnir and surtr.

I myself am doing the elementals because I can't afford a nice heimdal/fenrir set. Thinking about switching soon though. Just got this sick Superior Phase Robe of Fenrir and I have some way underleveled barely prenerf fenrir shoes. (everything sucks on it but the evade). But I guess when I do get around to leveling it, I'll try to get the rest of the fenrir pieces and katalox staff.

Also, imo, I think its better to be good at both elementals and holy/dark. Why? because of item world. While leveling each holy/dark item, you can have your elemental suit on. And its not like it will be easy to find a replacement for that part of the suit while you do item world.

Holy/Dark is useful on high difficulties because it takes a lot of the guess work out of deciding which spells to cast; except for Elementals, enemies are weak either Holy or Dark, or are neutral to one or both. With being dedicated to one Element, it's not too uncommon to find yourself in rounds where you don't have anything effective to use, and you don't really want to be in that situation on IWBTH. You also don't really want to be doing a schoolgirl marathon without a Holy suit. The downside is that Holy and Dark spells cost considerably more MP to cast. Elemental spells are useful on lower difficulties, especially in long GFs/CFs/IWs. Eventually you'll want to get a Phase suit of both so you can be more flexible.

At lower levels I'd just recommend getting an Elementalist set so you can use whatever elemental spells are necessary in the round. You have no idea what the monster landscape will look like in the levels ahead, nor will you know how it will evolve, so if you invest in a Phase suit now, it might not be as useful 30 levels later. I stuck with Elementalist armor until about 220, where I was forced to switch to Phase due to a recent patch changing how burden affects Evade Chance. Elementalist was fine up to that point (I stuck to <Nightmare, however) but I was planning on switching to Phase sooner than later anyway.

Ok I am getting really annoyed about one thing people keep saying.

Holy and Dark spells are not more expensive. They cost the same. Holy just doesn't have T1 spells, only T2/T3, while Dark only has T3/T4, which is why people see them as more expensive. A Holy, Dark, or Elemental T3 spell all cost the same, and have the same multiplier. Holy/Dark just has less flexibility when it comes to casting more mana efficient spells because they don't have the lower ranks.

Now for my question, do Focus weapons outside of staffs still get generated?

This post has been edited by skillchip: Mar 18 2012, 09:11

So far I haven't seen a focus melee item drop or from shrining.

So on my last two trophy dumps I've gotten:

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=13fd02e6bb

and

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=25c00ce7d6

(Obviously some other stuff as well, but this was the best)
I got the Exquisite first and think that's the better weapon, but does anyone think I should go for the ethereal instead? What would you choose?

Interestingly I got both from Dalek Voice Boxes. I suppose one is bound to get some good stuff from throwing a ton of crappy trophies at Snowflake.

Ok I am getting really annoyed about one thing people keep saying.

Holy and Dark spells are not more expensive. They cost the same. Holy just doesn't have T1 spells, only T2/T3, while Dark only has T3/T4, which is why people see them as more expensive. A Holy, Dark, or Elemental T3 spell all cost the same, and have the same multiplier. Holy/Dark just has less flexibility when it comes to casting more mana efficient spells because they don't have the lower ranks.

Now for my question, do Focus weapons outside of staffs still get generated?

It's always difficult to 'prove' that one weapon suffix doesn't exist anymore. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

And in mage's way of thinking mana-inefficiency equals expensive, because mana potions are money.
Don't underestimate that inflexibility, because that's the difference of 2 godly mana potions per schoolgirl run between holy set and dark set. (and both of them have similar EDB armors)

(Obviously some other stuff as well, but this was the best)
I got the Exquisite first and think that's the better weapon, but does anyone think I should go for the ethereal instead? What would you choose?

Interestingly I got both from Dalek Voice Boxes. I suppose one is bound to get some good stuff from throwing a ton of crappy trophies at Snowflake.

As always, try both of them and see their strength/weakness. It's difficult to compare individual weapons unless it's pretty obvious that one of them wins for sure.

And if you shrine many trophies, eventually you'll get something useful. Eventually.

This post has been edited by varst: Mar 18 2012, 10:00

So on my last two trophy dumps I've gotten:

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=13fd02e6bb

and

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=25c00ce7d6

(Obviously some other stuff as well, but this was the best)
I got the Exquisite first and think that's the better weapon, but does anyone think I should go for the ethereal instead? What would you choose?

Interestingly I got both from Dalek Voice Boxes. I suppose one is bound to get some good stuff from throwing a ton of crappy trophies at Snowflake.

At my level a crappy ethereal mace is better then an awesome normal mace, just cause of how many crush resistant mobs there are

You need to equipped both and see / post the final base damage, the equipment link alone is not sufficient; the damage from the mace itself is only just a part of it, the damage type change, on the other hand, are apply to the dmg from everything, head to toes.

Melee, unlike Mage, can gain huge amount of base damage from another source beside from the weapon alone, to the point that in a certain scenario, it made the dmg difference between weapons a rather mood issue...

Whatever the case maybe, the simple fact remains: When facing something, like, 5 monsters at once, it doesn't matter if 4 of them are a weakling Sprite if the one that left happens to be Giant... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

This post has been edited by buktore: Mar 18 2012, 11:08

And there are giants as far as the eye can see!

Ok, I finally got 3 tokens of blood, is it possible to beat real life/invisible pink unicorn/flying spaghetti monster at my level? I'm dual wielding ethereal axe of slaughter and ethereal dagger of balance. I don't wanna go in, get killed one shotted until I'm out of SP, then die and waste 3 tokens that took like 2 weeks to get >.>

I think it's right to say dark/holy is more mana intensive as a style because since mage fights should not last long, the first spell matters a lot. The elemental mages have the option of using T1 to proc Coalesced and can follow afterward with 50% off all their big spells. Holy/dark mages often feel obliged to start off with their "big spells" since any T1 they cast won't be aided by their EDB gear. I've had quite a few rounds where I've had to go the entire round with no coalesce proc-ing. Having no T1 really drained my mana ridiculously fast.

tl;dr the misconception lies in people assuming dark/holy magic is more *mana expensive*. As skillchip noted, it's not. However, I'd say the dark/holy *style* is definitely more mana expensive unless the player wants to do an opener with an elemental T1 for the pure sake of coalesc

Ok, I finally got 3 tokens of blood, is it possible to beat real life/invisible pink unicorn/flying spaghetti monster at my level? I'm dual wielding ethereal axe of slaughter and ethereal dagger of balance. I don't wanna go in, get killed one shotted until I'm out of SP, then die and waste 3 tokens that took like 2 weeks to get >.>

The only question: Do you have silence?
If yes, then go ahead. Maybe difficult, but you should be able to do that.
Also, pick some infusions.. It can make things much faster.

might be best if kaos prepares for the fight beforehand. silence will make it doable though. just a question of what else you have checked off on the "god killing checklist"

The only question: Do you have silence?
If yes, then go ahead. Maybe difficult, but you should be able to do that.
Also, pick some infusions.. It can make things much faster.

Yes, I have it maxed out. Time to load up on godly potions and challenge a God! It's just too bad blind and silence can't stack >.>

mana pot > health pot especially vs a god IMO